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Old 09-11-2005, 12:34 PM   #1
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Some people don't know shit when they talk about censorship

There is a difference between censorship and hate/diffamation threads.

This is a private board, Lensman can delete/ban/kickass everyone if he wants to.

1st amendment or your censorship battle won't protect ANYONE here. This is not a governement/constitution issue.

Example 1 :

I create a thread claiming that someone is a pedophile.

I get banned, they close the thread.

Is it censorship? No. It's a diffammation thread.

Example 2 :

I start a thread "Happy September 11th everyone!".

My main goal is to attack everyone using a sarcastic approach (We all know 9/11 is not holiday or a celebration). I know people will get upset, but I still do it.

Now, what if I get banned. Do you really think that censorship was involved? NO. Just because this board is called "Go Fuck Yourself", does not give me the right to start CP threads, pedophile accusations or laughing about innocent people who died from a terrorist attack.

Stop acting like you can say everything on this board. Some lines should not be crossed.
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Old 09-11-2005, 12:36 PM   #2
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Censorship cry babies can go fuck themselves, you can't say what you want here, it's a private message board.
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Example 1 :

I create a thread claiming that someone is a pedophile.

I get banned, they close the thread.

Is it censorship? No. It's a diffammation thread.

Example 2 :

I start a thread "Happy September 11th everyone!".

My main goal is to attack everyone using a sarcastic approach (We all know 9/11 is not holiday or a celebration). I know people will get upset, but I still do it.

Now, what if I get banned. Do you really think that censorship was involved? NO. Just because this board is called "Go Fuck Yourself", does not give me the right to start CP threads, pedophile accusations or laughing about innocent people who died from a terrorist attack.

Stop acting like you can say everything on this board. Some lines should not be crossed.
so I should be banned because I made a thread KNOWING all of you stupid fucks would go crazy over it ?

because I knew what would happen? its not a hateful thread, its pefectly timed. its sept. 11th, what a more than perfect time.

so just because i made you angry, i tugged your heart strings, i should be banned?

my thread is a perfect example of how many stressed out people post here. freaking out about nothing.

sure the WTC attacks was a fucked up event to happen but shit that was 5 years ago, get fucking over it.
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Example 1: Libel
Example 2: Bad taste

There's a difference.
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you comparing my thread to a CP thread is fucking laughable
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Example 1: Libel
Example 2: Bad taste

There's a difference.
You didn't get my point. This is not about censorship, bad taste can still get me banned. But idiots using "censorship" as an argument, are clueless.

If Lensman decided that throwdown should be banned because he started a dumbass thread on 9/11 will not be against free speech. Free speech does not exist here.
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you comparing my thread to a CP thread is fucking laughable
I didn't know you were THAT retarded.
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You didn't get my point. This is not about censorship, bad taste can still get me banned. But idiots using "censorship" as an argument, are clueless.

If Lensman decided that throwdown should be banned because he started a dumbass thread on 9/11 will not be against free speech. Free speech does not exist here.
Lensman should ban me because i hurt your feelings?
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Lensman should ban me because i hurt your feelings?
What makes you think it hurt my feelings? Your telepathetic powers?

Just because 5% supported you, doesn't mean you shouldn't be banned.
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No, he should ban you because you are a fucking idiot.
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What makes you think it hurt my feelings? Your telepathetic powers?

Just because 5% supported you, doesn't mean you shouldn't be banned.
well its mostly people saying they want me banned that have had a grudge against me for a WHILE, way before that sept 11th thread.

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You didn't get my point. This is not about censorship, bad taste can still get me banned. But idiots using "censorship" as an argument, are clueless.

If Lensman decided that throwdown should be banned because he started a dumbass thread on 9/11 will not be against free speech. Free speech does not exist here.
Lensman hasn't said thing one about this though.

I'm not sure you understand what censorship is. Roughly it means to edit, remove or suppress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable.

Exactly how is removing nofx not censorship?
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51%?

How many fake nicks did you use to get that score?
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if you believe i'd go log into 2342 nicks and up the vote, thats laughable

this is my only gfy nick
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5% ? looks more like 51% doesnt want me banned
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/515110-official-throwdown-aka-nofx-ban-poll.html
51%? Whoa, feel the love.
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Exactly how is removing nofx not censorship?
Because Lensman has the right to ban anyone. Censorship rules does not apply here. It's his board. If someone in your house starts insulting you and you kick him out, is that censorship?
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You're not really good at math, are you?
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Because Lensman has the right to ban anyone. Censorship rules does not apply here. It's his board. If someone in your house starts insulting you and you kick him out, is that censorship?
Censorship and freedom of speech are not synonmous.

You're right that freedom of speech offers no protection to Nofx, or anybody else, in regards to a private board. However, when you start removing things you find objectionable, you are practicing censorship.

Like I said, I don't think you understand the word.
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nofx + throwdown = 2.

You're not really good at math, are you?
you're not really good at following up on things are you?

nofx acct = disabled for the time being

i reg'd this account

want me to make you a sandwich to regain some brainpower ?
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Like I said, I don't think you understand the word.
Censorship is the use of governmental power to control speech and other forms of human expression.

Is GFY a governmental power? No. Next.
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nofx acct = disabled for the time being

i reg'd this account

want me to make you a sandwich to regain some brainpower ?
Banned but had to come back to whore your sig or you'd be unemployed and unable to pay your $150 a month rent. Sad.
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Censorship is the use of governmental power to control speech and other forms of human expression.

Is GFY a governmental power? No. Next.
Like I said, you don't understand the word. The goverment is not the only group that can censor.
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Censorship is the use of governmental power to control speech and other forms of human expression.

Is GFY a governmental power? No. Next.
censorship is editing/changing anything you disagree with, based on your personal opinon.

censorship is the use of government power? wtf kind of crack are you smoking canadian? i want some of that
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Censorship is the use of governmental power to control speech and other forms of human expression.

Is GFY a governmental power? No. Next.
censorship

official prohibition or restriction of any type of expression believed to threaten the political, social, or moral order. It may be imposed by governmental authority, local or national, by a religious body, or occasionally by a powerful private group. It may be applied to the mails, speech, the press, the theater, dance, art, literature, photography, the cinema, radio, television, or computer networks. Censorship may be either preventive or punitive, according to whether it is exercised before or after the expression has been made public. In use since antiquity, the practice has been particularly thoroughgoing under autocratic and heavily centralized governments, from the Roman Empire to the totalitarian states of the 20th cent.

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censorship is the use of government power?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship

Find me one definition of "censorship" where it is used in the private sector.

Good luck!
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Find me one definition of "censorship" where it is used in the private sector.

Good luck!
see above post

It may be imposed by governmental authority, local or national, by a religious body, or occasionally by a powerful private group.
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It may be imposed by governmental authority, local or national, by a religious body, or occasionally by a powerful private group.
Yeah, GFY is part of all that. Thanks for proving me how clueless you are.
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how can you start a thread and not know what you're talking about?

funny
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Find me one definition of "censorship" where it is used in the private sector.

Good luck!
When censorship is defined as the denial of a person the right to express their views in art or speech, it becomes clear that almost every organized religion has participated in censorship at some point in its history.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censors...nized_religion
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Yeah, GFY is part of all that. Thanks for proving me how clueless you are.
saids the guy who thinks only governments can practice censorship
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You need to have a certain level of power in the society to be considered censorship. A message board is not part of that, I knew you were dumb, but this is ridiculous.
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When censorship is defined as the denial of a person the right to express their views in art or speech, it becomes clear that almost every organized religion has participated in censorship at some point in its history.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censors...nized_religion
Yeah, GFY is a Religion message board with huge POWERS in the society.

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Find me one definition of "censorship" where it is used in the private sector.

Good luck!
I know you only asked for one, but here's another:

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/censor?view=uk
? verb suppress or remove unacceptable parts of (a book, film, etc.).

Now what was that you were saying?
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Yeah, GFY is a Religion message board with huge POWERS in the society.

So if I take a book, cross out phrases that bother me, and hand it to you to read... Did I censor the book or not?

First it was just the goverment. Now it's the goverment and the church.

Like I said, you don't get it.
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You need to have a certain level of power in the society to be considered censorship. A message board is not part of that, I knew you were dumb, but this is ridiculous.
you can practice censorship anytime anywhere

if some guy you dislike is printing out some leftwing newsletter about how much Bush sucks dick and you go and kill him to stop that newsletter from being printed, this is censorship by you.

you can censor anything you dislike in this world

you wanting me banned is just out of hate, you want to see me censored.

If I get banned because people do not like what I have to say, and solely banned for that prime reason, that is an act of censorship on adult.com's part.
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I know you only asked for one, but here's another:

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/censor?view=uk
? verb suppress or remove unacceptable parts of (a book, film, etc.).

Now what was that you were saying?
And who does the censorship you think? The government or religious groups in other countries. Show me one example where the private sector had a censorship influence for movies, books..

Censorship does not apply here. It's a message board, not a nazi regime.

nigga, please.

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And who does the censorship you think? The government or religious groups in other countries. Show me one example where the private sector had a censorship influence for movies, books..

Censorship does not apply here. It's a message board, not a nazi regime.

nigga, please.

I already gave you an example. You're just too dense to follow it.

If I take a book, cross out what I don't like, and hand it to you to read I have censored that book.

I've had about enough of arguing with the idiot though, believe what you want.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:24 PM   #48
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that is an act of censorship on adult.com's part.
For censorship to happen you need FREE SPEECH. And free speech does not apply here. It's a private board, they make their own rules. You can't say everything you want, just like in a private house.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:27 PM   #49
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If I take a book, cross out what I don't like, and hand it to you to read I have censored that book.
That's what you call CENSORSHIP!?

Come on.. I could just go buy a new one. That's not censorship you stupid moron.

Force the publisher to remove words in a book, then publish it like that. Then maybe I will think about censorship.

Now show me an example where a small private organization is strong enough to do that with newpapers and movies..
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:28 PM   #50
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For censorship to happen you need FREE SPEECH. And free speech does not apply here. It's a private board, they make their own rules. You can't say everything you want, just like in a private house.
it still does not change the fact that its an ACT of censorship

you CAN say what ever you want in a private house, you have the freedom to say whatever you please. now the person whos house it is might not agree with what youre saying and they kick you out, this is an act of censorship on the homeowners part. censoring you, silencing you.
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