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facough · 02-19-2002, 10:20 PM

Pretty solid system, just bought my first ads. Finally some competition for those bastards at Overture!

m0rph3us · 02-19-2002, 10:52 PM

good luck. you'll need it!

geoff · 02-19-2002, 10:54 PM

where?

url ?

facough · 02-19-2002, 10:55 PM

google.com

teadrinker · 02-19-2002, 11:26 PM

WHAT??!!! shit this suck fucking cock!

brocklanders · 02-19-2002, 11:29 PM

they have had that for years

teadrinker · 02-19-2002, 11:30 PM

how come no one use it then? am there rightnow

facough · 02-19-2002, 11:33 PM

they have had CPM for about a year, CPC is new

Quote:

Originally posted by brocklanders
they have had that for years

AdultWire · 02-19-2002, 11:34 PM

I was under the impression that google has been doing this forever.. those ad spots are not new.

On the other hand, I'd be curious to know what your results are like. Overture so far has been fucking me.

Check out this correspondence so far:

Quote:

I SAID:

> > It has been 46 days since I signed up for Overture. After repeatedly
> being
> > turned down for listings, I was finally approved a few days ago. To my
> > dissappointment, several days later, not one of my search terms appear
> on
> > your partner sites.
> >
> > Why is that?

-----
THEY SAID:

> From: "Overture Client Services" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Case #5932352
>
>
> > Feb 18 2002 10:27 PT
> >
> > Hello Richard,
> >
> > Thank you for contacting Overture.
> >
> > Due to restrictions in our agreement with some of our partners, there
> are
> > some scenarios in which specific search terms or advertisers may be
> > excluded from the Overture search results that appear on our partners
> > sites.
> >
> > Listings that will not appear in Overture's search results on our
> > partnered sites vary between partner agreements
> >
> > In the future, we hope to decrease the number of restricted search
> term
> > categories so that more advertisers will be able to gain exposure to
> this
> > high-quality traffic from most of our partners and affiliates.
> >
> > For your convenience, we've provided a list of search term categories
> that
> > are excluded from some of our agreements in the DirecTraffic Center.
> > Please note that the categories listed in the DirecTraffic Center are
> > intended as a general guideline and do cover most of the listings that
> > have been restricted as part of some of our agreements.
> >
> > If you have any questions or concerns, please contact Client Services
> > using our Support Request Tab which is located in the DirectTraffic
> Center
> > (http://dtc.overture.com).
> >
> > Thank you for choosing Overture!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Raul Zuma
> > Client Services
> > Overture
> >
> > E-mail Client Services using our Support Request Form
> > through our Support Center Tab found in DirecTraffic Center®
> > dtc.overture.com
----
I SAID:

> I cannot find the document you make reference to. All I can find is
> repeated
> claims that top 3 position listing will be placed with your partners,
> who
> are said to include yahoo, netscape, aol and others. I find other sites
> similar in nature to mine showing up, but not mine. Please explain.
----
THEY SAID:

From: "Overture Client Services" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Case #5953488

> Feb 19 2002 12:38 PT
>
> Hello Richard,
>
> Thank you for contacting Overture.
>
> Your sited is listed as an adult site. Our affiliate partners that will
> not display overture adult listings per our agreement with them are AOL,
> Yahoo!, AltaVista and MSN.
>
> Unfortunately, we cannot publish our entire list of affiliates that
> display Overture adult sites, however, I hope that this list of major
> affiliate partnerships is useful information to you. Therefore the
> following is a list of some of our affiliate that display our adult
> listings :
>
> Ask Jeeves/ Direct Hit
> Compuserve
> CNET Networks
> InfoSpace. (includes Go2net, Metacrawler and Dogpile)
> Lycos
> Hotbot
> NBCi
> Netscape
> NetZero
>
> If you wish to learn more about Premium Listings and how they are
> implemented on our partnered sites, click on the following URL:
>
> https://secure.overture.com/s/dtc/ce...premList.jhtml
>
> You will first be prompted to enter your DirecTraffic Center® username and
> password.
>
> If you have any other questions or concerns, please contact Client
> Services using our Support Request Tab which is located in the
> DirecTraffic Center (http://dtc.overture.com).
>
> Thank you for choosing Overture!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Raul Zuma
> Client Services
> Overture
>
> E-mail Client Services using our Support Request Form
> through our Support Center Tab found in DirecTraffic Center®
> dtc.overture.com
----
AND Finally, I SAID:

Thank you for the list.

Would it be possible for you to explain why I don't show up in any of the
sites on the list?

Any bets on what happens next??

facough · 02-19-2002, 11:38 PM

Overture USED to rock. Now they have nazi like guidelines and are frickin useless. I cut my spending down from $2500 a month to $200.

geoff · 02-19-2002, 11:45 PM

they've had adwords for ages, which is their per impression program which is the two links at the top of the search results plus the tables on the right.

where is a url for their ppc submissions?

teadrinker · 02-19-2002, 11:51 PM

its right beside it man...

AdultWire · 02-19-2002, 11:58 PM

It's kind of bothersome to me that their responses indicate they have not even INVESTIGATED my claim -- they've just sent form letters in response to everything. If I helped influence just one webmaster to cut his overture budget, I feel I have served my purpose here. Of course, in fairness, if I ever extraordinarily good service from them, I will post about that as well.

geoff · 02-19-2002, 11:59 PM

aahhh ..... found it ..... AdWords Select

facough · 02-20-2002, 12:04 AM

all my campaigns are non-adult related, but even so I got treated as poorly as you. those canned email responses look all too familier.

they shouldn't upset anyone, after they killed all my listings I got to thinking how easily their entire business model could be taken down. Get a few thousand surfers to start recklessly clicking on the $1+ bids, inform the advertisers, boom... no more Overture

Theo · 02-20-2002, 12:15 AM

adwords existed before,but they burned many people! many impressions,few clicks,no profit

they turned it to ppc,smart and fair movement

AdultWire · 02-20-2002, 12:26 AM

I think I get upset about it, because I have a very different approach to business. I've been thinking about pushing mass adult-hosting as a new product, but I've avoided it, because I don't have the facilities scale my support team at the kind of breakneck pace that would require.

I guess there's other ways of doing business.. and they can make money too.. heh..

funkmaster · 02-20-2002, 08:09 AM

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=OVER&d=c&k=c4&t=1d

.. check it out, I bet overture will not like it ... OVER droped by 10%

AdultWire · 02-20-2002, 08:22 AM

Sure.. the adult webmaster community makes up a good portion of their revenue, and they treat us like shit. Apparently, even the non-adult site owners have been treated like shit recently.

I wonder how long it will be before "Cathy" from Overture starts hanging out in this BB (no disrespect intended to Cathy from I-Bill who I think, despite serious obstacles, is trying to appease the masses here).

Sleepy · 02-20-2002, 08:23 AM

Fuck Overture ... goto/about/dmoz can kiss off too.
Cant give away any secrets here, sorry, but they arent needed to do business or make money.

Have you EVER found what you were looking for on those sites ? .....yeah, well neither have their surfers.

DarkJedi · 02-20-2002, 08:29 AM

sooooo............does it mean we'll be out of free google traffic pretty soon ? all the pay sites going to buy keywords ?

funkmaster · 02-20-2002, 08:31 AM

... what makes google´s system special is, that no matter how hight the 2nd position is, you will only be charged 1cent more to stay on top. with all other ppc engines it is different, you´ll always pay what you selected, google´s system is adjusting your bid price ... and this will cost OVER, no more stupid overbidding !

well, there are bidding tools out there, like http://www.gotoast.com/, but (correct me if I am wrong) most ppc´s have banned them ...

adultmatchdoctor · 02-20-2002, 09:41 AM

What is the mimimun PPC you can do on google?
By the way evertime i try and get it their system it says its under maintenence they must be getting slammed.

teadrinker · 02-20-2002, 10:23 AM

your ad doent interfere with google listing, it is on the rightside where it said sponserd links -)

DarkJedi · 02-20-2002, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by teadrinker
your ad doent interfere with google listing, it is on the rightside where it said sponserd links -)

so they wont place ad listings ion top search results ?

Nedder · 02-20-2002, 10:52 AM

I know what comes next...

"Hello Richard,

Thank you for contacting Overture. Blah Blah Blah."

Nz

teadrinker · 02-20-2002, 11:00 AM

nop they dont jedi, thats a good thing, google is the only SE left for the surfers to actually get what their looking for.

Kimmykim · 02-20-2002, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepy
Fuck Overture ... goto/about/dmoz can kiss off too.
Cant give away any secrets here, sorry, but they arent needed to do business or make money.

Have you EVER found what you were looking for on those sites ? .....yeah, well neither have their surfers.

A case could be made for that you know. A guy looking for free porn can't find it, well finally he buys something...

02-19-2002, 10:20 PM	#1
facough Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 32	Google PPC now live! Pretty solid system, just bought my first ads. Finally some competition for those bastards at Overture!

02-19-2002, 10:52 PM	#2
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02-19-2002, 10:54 PM	#3
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02-19-2002, 11:45 PM	#11
geoff Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: outback, Australia Posts: 192	they've had adwords for ages, which is their per impression program which is the two links at the top of the search results plus the tables on the right. where is a url for their ppc submissions? __________________ Nothing motivates more than the thought of being poor! PornMegaBucks 25 niche sites - 60% recurring - build yourself some long term recurring income Software Bucks - CleanBrowser + iSuperCharger

02-19-2002, 11:58 PM	#13
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	It's kind of bothersome to me that their responses indicate they have not even INVESTIGATED my claim -- they've just sent form letters in response to everything. If I helped influence just one webmaster to cut his overture budget, I feel I have served my purpose here. Of course, in fairness, if I ever extraordinarily good service from them, I will post about that as well. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

02-19-2002, 10:55 PM	#4
facough Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 32	google.com

02-19-2002, 11:26 PM	#5
teadrinker Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA Posts: 339	WHAT??!!! shit this suck fucking cock!

02-19-2002, 11:29 PM	#6
brocklanders Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 297	they have had that for years

02-19-2002, 11:30 PM	#7
teadrinker Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA Posts: 339	how come no one use it then? am there rightnow

02-19-2002, 11:38 PM	#10
facough Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 32	Overture USED to rock. Now they have nazi like guidelines and are frickin useless. I cut my spending down from $2500 a month to $200.

02-19-2002, 11:51 PM	#12
teadrinker Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA Posts: 339	its right beside it man...

02-19-2002, 11:59 PM	#14
geoff Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: outback, Australia Posts: 192	aahhh ..... found it ..... AdWords Select __________________ Nothing motivates more than the thought of being poor! PornMegaBucks 25 niche sites - 60% recurring - build yourself some long term recurring income Software Bucks - CleanBrowser + iSuperCharger

02-20-2002, 12:04 AM	#15
facough Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 32	all my campaigns are non-adult related, but even so I got treated as poorly as you. those canned email responses look all too familier. they shouldn't upset anyone, after they killed all my listings I got to thinking how easily their entire business model could be taken down. Get a few thousand surfers to start recklessly clicking on the $1+ bids, inform the advertisers, boom... no more Overture

02-20-2002, 12:15 AM	#16
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	adwords existed before,but they burned many people! many impressions,few clicks,no profit they turned it to ppc,smart and fair movement

02-20-2002, 12:26 AM	#17
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	I think I get upset about it, because I have a very different approach to business. I've been thinking about pushing mass adult-hosting as a new product, but I've avoided it, because I don't have the facilities scale my support team at the kind of breakneck pace that would require. I guess there's other ways of doing business.. and they can make money too.. heh.. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

02-20-2002, 08:09 AM	#18
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=OVER&d=c&k=c4&t=1d .. check it out, I bet overture will not like it ... OVER droped by 10%

02-20-2002, 08:22 AM	#19
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	Sure.. the adult webmaster community makes up a good portion of their revenue, and they treat us like shit. Apparently, even the non-adult site owners have been treated like shit recently. I wonder how long it will be before "Cathy" from Overture starts hanging out in this BB (no disrespect intended to Cathy from I-Bill who I think, despite serious obstacles, is trying to appease the masses here). __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

02-20-2002, 08:23 AM	#20
Sleepy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Porn Peddler Posts: 679	Fuck Overture ... goto/about/dmoz can kiss off too. Cant give away any secrets here, sorry, but they arent needed to do business or make money. Have you EVER found what you were looking for on those sites ? .....yeah, well neither have their surfers.

02-20-2002, 08:29 AM	#21
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	sooooo............does it mean we'll be out of free google traffic pretty soon ? all the pay sites going to buy keywords ?

02-20-2002, 08:31 AM	#22
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... what makes google´s system special is, that no matter how hight the 2nd position is, you will only be charged 1cent more to stay on top. with all other ppc engines it is different, you´ll always pay what you selected, google´s system is adjusting your bid price ... and this will cost OVER, no more stupid overbidding ! well, there are bidding tools out there, like http://www.gotoast.com/, but (correct me if I am wrong) most ppc´s have banned them ... Last edited by funkmaster; 02-20-2002 at 08:51 AM..

02-20-2002, 09:41 AM	#23
adultmatchdoctor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Posts: 5	What is the mimimun PPC you can do on google? By the way evertime i try and get it their system it says its under maintenence they must be getting slammed. __________________ The AdultMatchDoctor.com Staff Adult Dating for all!

02-20-2002, 10:23 AM	#24
teadrinker Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA Posts: 339	your ad doent interfere with google listing, it is on the rightside where it said sponserd links -)

02-20-2002, 10:52 AM	#26
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	I know what comes next... "Hello Richard, Thank you for contacting Overture. Blah Blah Blah." Nz

02-20-2002, 11:00 AM	#27
teadrinker Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA Posts: 339	nop they dont jedi, thats a good thing, google is the only SE left for the surfers to actually get what their looking for.