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Old 09-07-2005, 06:47 AM   #1
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Ephedra alternatives?

Really haven't been paying much attention to the weight training scene, wondering are there any ephedra alternatives that acutally work?
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:49 AM   #2
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:51 AM   #3
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:24 PM   #4
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isn't adipex really for people who are obese
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:27 PM   #5
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i have never heard of apidex, ephidrine, ephedra whatever

same shit diff toilet

i can get it in pure powder
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:29 PM   #6
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:29 PM   #7
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None really besides actual speed. Sucks.

If you're cutting though, just use Clenbuterol instead. It won't make your cardio workouts more intense, that's not how it works, but it raises your body temp and blood pressure the same way. Very effective fat burner.
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:30 PM   #8
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:32 PM   #9
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ephedra is no longer banned, It will be back in time.
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:32 PM   #10
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:33 PM   #11
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Ephedra is already available. The ban was lifted. I can buy it at my local health food shop. I'm sure you can find it somewhere on the web.
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:34 PM   #12
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yep the ban was lifted...

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Old 09-07-2005, 01:36 PM   #13
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Ephedra is already available. The ban was lifted. I can buy it at my local health food shop. I'm sure you can find it somewhere on the web.
can you send me some ??? Here its strictly banned
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Old 09-07-2005, 01:37 PM   #14
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can you send me some ??? Here its strictly banned
I have a ton here at my house but all opened bottles.

Next time I pay a visit to the store Good Health in Quincy MA (probaly Friday) ill get you some prices. I'd be more than happy to send it to you. Just cover taxes and shipping.
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:39 PM   #15
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ephedra is no longer banned, It will be back in time.
Wtf? Link?
When was this...
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:41 PM   #16
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Wtf? Link?
When was this...
long time ago bro

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=46726

http://altmedicine.about.com/od/cons...phedra_ban.htm

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Old 09-07-2005, 03:52 PM   #17
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looks like I'll looking for some ephedra here pretty soon
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:16 PM   #18
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Really haven't been paying much attention to the weight training scene, wondering are there any ephedra alternatives that acutally work?

1. DNP
or
2. T3 + Clenbuterol
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:19 PM   #19
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2. T3 + Clenbuterol
T3 + Clen is fucking amazing! my real job requires me to be in shape and T3 + Clen allows me to eat whatever the fuck I want up to 2 weeks before I have a booking.

Whats DNP? I'm not familiar.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:28 PM   #20
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T3 + Clen is fucking amazing! my real job requires me to be in shape and T3 + Clen allows me to eat whatever the fuck I want up to 2 weeks before I have a booking.

Whats DNP? I'm not familiar.
Yes, for those that know T3 + Clen are a great combo.

DNP was used about 75 years ago in diet pills but was pulled from the market because of abuse. When abused it will kill you, when used in realistic levels it kills fat. All diet products work by raising thyroid activity, metabolism, etc. DNP does not waste the time of doing the aforementioned, it just simply kills the fat cells. Truly amazing, but will all this stuff -> NOT FOR MORONS. Failing to adhere to the rules, will take you out of the game, permanently.

Google: DNP + weight loss
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:01 PM   #21
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Yes, for those that know T3 + Clen are a great combo.

DNP was used about 75 years ago in diet pills but was pulled from the market because of abuse. When abused it will kill you, when used in realistic levels it kills fat. All diet products work by raising thyroid activity, metabolism, etc. DNP does not waste the time of doing the aforementioned, it just simply kills the fat cells. Truly amazing, but will all this stuff -> NOT FOR MORONS. Failing to adhere to the rules, will take you out of the game, permanently.

Google: DNP + weight loss
i remember hearing about DNP a while back, and that it's dangerous as hell
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:25 PM   #22
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i remember hearing about DNP a while back, and that it's dangerous as hell
So is aspirin, in quantity.

It was merely presented as an option, that does work. Too much shit on the market that really is just snake oil.
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Old 09-07-2005, 05:47 PM   #23
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i remember hearing about DNP a while back, and that it's dangerous as hell
DNP can kill you very easily. its a very toxic substance and basically a very strong industrial dye. T3 is a sythetic thyroid hormone that can fuck up your thyroid as well... its not a joke. there are several pro body builders that have to take thyroid hormones for the rest of their lives from abusing T3.

ephedra/caffeine/aspirin is your best and most reasonably safe bet... even then, if your diet and training is not in order, nothing is going to compensate for bad habits.
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I do not have a good experience with Ephedra.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:28 AM   #25
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Cut out the fat burners. Some may work, but why gamble with your health?

Try the good old 4:

- weight training
- cardio
- diet
- sleep

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hugo29.htm

With hard discipline you can get your bodyfat down to ~8% within a year.
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Old 09-08-2005, 02:48 AM   #26
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Try Ephedrine HCL
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mp/vaso2.html
Devloped for Relief For Shortness Of Breath, Tightness Of Chest, And Wheezing. It's a controled synthetic substance. Where as ephedra is an uncontroled plant.
It works better and is safer, take it with caffeine 3 times a day 200MBG caffeine/25MG ephedrine, 30minutes prior to a meal. Make sure you're active and eating good as well.
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:42 AM   #27
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Tell your doctor you can not concentrate and you will get the pure and the best meth on the universe legally. It will definitely help you to burn your fat.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:48 AM   #29
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Tell your doctor you can not concentrate and you will get the pure and the best meth on the universe legally. It will definitely help you to burn your fat.

which drug is this?
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I do not remember the name. My wife used to take it. Something like Ritalin but she had something different.
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Cut out the fat burners. Some may work, but why gamble with your health?

Try the good old 4:

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