Why do poor people always blame rich people for their problems? - GoFuckYourself.com

Cunt · 09-03-2005, 10:41 PM

Is it our fault they all smoke, drink, eat junk food, don't exercise, sit on their asses all day long watching TV, spending 3x more than what they earn, expect employers to let them work when they want, have more children then they can feed, supervise, educate or even give a damn about?

If I can look after myself, eat right, exercise, gain knowledge, work hard and pay taxes why can't they?

sumphatpimp · 09-03-2005, 10:43 PM

love your nick

Joe Citizen · 09-03-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hahahaha

If I can look after myself, eat right, exercise, gain knowledge, work hard and pay taxes why can't they?

Because you're a c unt?

BlueDesignStudios · 09-03-2005, 10:56 PM

you assume that everyone has a certain level of education

phonesex · 09-03-2005, 11:01 PM

hahahaha, not everyone is the same. Imagine if all was as successful as you? Who would mow your lawn, or cut your hair. Even if everbody was educated there would still be different classes of people.

MetroPornTour · 09-03-2005, 11:02 PM

Because if you take the time to read the UN charter of Human rights.
The Candian Constitution.
The United States Constitution.

And pretty much any western nations guarantee of rights.

You will find that you can't discriminate on Gender, Sexual Orientation, Race, Religion or Age.

But NOTHING to keep someone from discriminating based on social class. IE: The rich get to fuck over the poor all they want.

Like selling them cigarettes, cheap mcdonalds fast food, alcohol, etc.
And making memberships to the gym too expensive for them to comfortably afford.

Cunt · 09-03-2005, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

you assume that everyone has a certain level of education

I know there's a level of under-education amoungst complaining poor people.

I guess the ones who have an education know not to blame rich people.

GigoloJustin · 09-03-2005, 11:03 PM

Why do you assume all poor people are the same?

A bit ignorant?

stev0 · 09-03-2005, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

you assume that everyone has a certain level of education

A free equal opportunity education system would solve alot of the class related problems.

colpanic · 09-03-2005, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

But NOTHING to keep someone from discriminating based on social class. IE: The rich get to fuck over the poor all they want.

Like selling them cigarettes, cheap mcdonalds fast food, alcohol, etc.
And making memberships to the gym too expensive for them to comfortably afford.

Trust me, they aren't not going to the gym because the man is keeping them down.. They are uneducated, and lazy. I grew up with a lot of poor people around (although we weren't).. those fuckers were ALWAYS at the gym.

Rich people can buy mcdonalds and alcohol and smokes also.. they just aren't stupid enough to do it every day.

Not to say the rich don't fuck the poor... but your reasons are invalid.

Cunt · 09-03-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GigoloJustin

Why do you assume all poor people are the same?

A bit ignorant?

They aren't???
So what are the ones you know doing wrong?

SomeCreep · 09-03-2005, 11:17 PM

Poor people certainly do breed in large numbers.

Doctor Dre · 09-03-2005, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

you assume that everyone has a certain level of education

Has nothing to do with "education"... It's only about getting yourself out of trouble.

Doctor Dre · 09-03-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Because if you take the time to read the UN charter of Human rights.
The Candian Constitution.
The United States Constitution.

And pretty much any western nations guarantee of rights.

You will find that you can't discriminate on Gender, Sexual Orientation, Race, Religion or Age.

But NOTHING to keep someone from discriminating based on social class. IE: The rich get to fuck over the poor all they want.

Like selling them cigarettes, cheap mcdonalds fast food, alcohol, etc.
And making memberships to the gym too expensive for them to comfortably afford.

Gimmie a break ... EVERYBODY knows cigarettes and fast food is bad ...

And 30 bucks a month for a gym membership is too much? It's less then a day of work for somebody sitting on teh side of the street asking people for money...

Cunt · 09-03-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Because if you take the time to read the UN charter of Human rights.
The Candian Constitution.
The United States Constitution.

And pretty much any western nations guarantee of rights.

You will find that you can't discriminate on Gender, Sexual Orientation, Race, Religion or Age.

But NOTHING to keep someone from discriminating based on social class. IE: The rich get to fuck over the poor all they want.

Like selling them cigarettes, cheap mcdonalds fast food, alcohol, etc.
And making memberships to the gym too expensive for them to comfortably afford.

That sounds like an excuse a poor person would use. I can buy cheap drugs, cigarettes, booze and Mc Donalds food too but I don't choose to. I buy fresh groceries, eat well balanced meals, mainly drink water and spend very little on exercising. I walk, swim and bicycle. Knowledge can also be easily acquired in a library.

But somehow poor people always have excuses. Watching Oprah is more important than spending 30 minutes in a park with your kids.

2257-Ben · 09-03-2005, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

A free equal opportunity education system would solve alot of the class related problems.

Excuse me, but we have a free, equal opportunity educational system. The problem is that there are some members of society who would rather smoke crack, do drugs, run around in gangs and pretty much neglect themselves than accept responsibility for their own lives and do their homework, study and hit the books in order to make a better life for themselves... Why, because they know there's a welfare check at the end of the month that will let them do so.

aleck · 09-03-2005, 11:25 PM

poor ppl have to blame someone. the idea of blaming themselves is insulting for them.

MetroPornTour · 09-03-2005, 11:39 PM

And how many of these people posting here come from rich america?

Hmmmm....

I just wonder.

The rich always fuck the poor. Thats how they get rich.

ThunderBalls · 09-04-2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hahahaha

Is it our fault they all smoke, drink, eat junk food, don't exercise, sit on their asses all day long watching TV, spending 3x more than what they earn, expect employers to let them work when they want, have more children then they can feed, supervise, educate or even give a damn about?

If I can look after myself, eat right, exercise, gain knowledge, work hard and pay taxes why can't they?

Whats ironic is you seem to be blaming poor people for YOUR problems.

aleck · 09-04-2005, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

The rich always fuck the poor. Thats how they get rich.

define 'fuck' please

Paul Markham · 09-04-2005, 12:08 AM

There are some very prejudiced ignorant views here.

Yes the poor could do more to help themselves, but many of the poor are poor through no fault of their own.

In the US the ethic is very much about self survival and self help. But what if you are unable to help yourself? Like the old sick and infirm who could not get out on New Orleans and were stranded because the "rich" govermentsimply thinks every one can drive themselves out of town.

Then the education system, if you are rich you can afford to move to an area with good schooling and usually good teacher. The poor don't have that option. Should the education system switch the good teachers from the rich areas to the poor areas and visa versa?

Loo at some of the porest countries in the world, the reason they are poor is because of the small number of leaders who are getting rich and keeping everyone else poor and usually limiting their own wealth. Iraq, Uganda, Turkmenistan, N. Korea, the list is many. All countries where the poor suffer because of the few rich.

Pleasurepays · 09-04-2005, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Like selling them cigarettes, cheap mcdonalds fast food, alcohol, etc.
And making memberships to the gym too expensive for them to comfortably afford.

people are poor because they are ignorant and raised to be poor. what is a ghetto, single mother of 8 going to teach her kids about financial planning, business and making money? all she can teach them is that life sucks and its hopeless.

your argument reminds me of Boyz in the Hood - when he points out that there are no gun shops in or liquer stores in Beverly Hills but they are on every street corner in Compton... failing to accept responsibility for the fact that they can easily pass a city ordinance and get rid of all of them in an afternoon if they were inclined to start acccepting responsibility for their condition.

Pleasurepays · 09-04-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

There are some very prejudiced ignorant views here.

Yes the poor could do more to help themselves, but many of the poor are poor through no fault of their own.

In the US the ethic is very much about self survival and self help. But what if you are unable to help yourself? Like the old sick and infirm who could not get out on New Orleans and were stranded because the "rich" govermentsimply thinks every one can drive themselves out of town.

Look at some of the porest countries in the world, the reason they are poor is because of the small number of leaders who are getting rich and keeping everyone else poor and usually limiting their own wealth. Iraq, Uganda, Turkmenistan, N. Korea, the list is many. All countries where the poor suffer because of the few rich.

What the fuck does Turkmenistan - an Islamic/Stalinist dictatorship, N Korea - a Stalinish Dictatorship, Iraq - a dictatorship, Uganda etc have to do with the USA? Are you that fucking stupid and lost? Is there someone stopping you at gunpoint from coming to LA and starting a business and making millions? Is your car going to explode because you missed a loan payment? Will some secret police stop you at passport control, arrrest and imprison you and torture you for 30 years because you want to open a restaurant? Is someone going to throw your family in prison if you turn a profit?

Last i checked, you can make as much money as you want in the USA regardless of where you are from... and it has nothing to do with what other rich people think about it.

Cunt · 09-04-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

There are some very prejudiced ignorant views here.

Yes the poor could do more to help themselves, but many of the poor are poor through no fault of their own.

In the US the ethic is very much about self survival and self help. But what if you are unable to help yourself? Like the old sick and infirm who could not get out on New Orleans and were stranded because the "rich" govermentsimply thinks every one can drive themselves out of town.

Then the education system, if you are rich you can afford to move to an area with good schooling and usually good teacher. The poor don't have that option. Should the education system switch the good teachers from the rich areas to the poor areas and visa versa?

Loo at some of the porest countries in the world, the reason they are poor is because of the small number of leaders who are getting rich and keeping everyone else poor and usually limiting their own wealth. Iraq, Uganda, Turkmenistan, N. Korea, the list is many. All countries where the poor suffer because of the few rich.

Poor people have more children earlier whereas educated professionals have fewer children later. That's why society is taking a dive down the crapper!

Why would anyone with at least 2 brain cells have 10 children when they can't feed the 2 they have?

Just because you were born into a poor neighbourhood, your dad left when you were a baby and you had to wear your siblings hand-me-downs you have no excuse for sitting on your arse throwing rocks at people who drive nice cars. Get up, take a bath and get a job. Any job. I didn't get my dream job first up. I cleaned toilets in a niteclub. But when I got paid I bought a nice pair of shoes and shirt, went to a hairdresser and got a better job.

It's not always the education that makes a difference either. I'd rather employ someone who can't read but wants to work than someone who has 5 degrees but wants every 2nd day off.

I'm an employer and I employ on attitude.

aleck · 09-04-2005, 12:40 AM

I do love the comparision between USA and Turkmenistan. Made my day for sure.

jayeff · 09-04-2005, 12:43 AM

If nothing else, the question posed in this thread proves that bad education isn't restricted to the poor.

The writer apparently hasn't noticed that our society is pyramidal in structure and that it is competitive in nature. Thus every time someone carves himself a slightly larger piece of cake, someone else's slice gets smaller.

But then, the original post didn't attempt to answer the thread's question anyway. It was just an excuse to trot out a generalized stereotype and at that, one which doesn't apply only to the poor. I don't recall the poor ever complaining that the rich make them eat junk food and watch TV all day.

I guess the point was supposed to be that the poor could do more to help themselves and that is true to a very limited extent. The flaw is that the dynamics of our economy, particularly over the past 30-some years, have been such that wealth increasingly moves towards the already wealthy, the middle class are more likely to slip down the economic ladder than climb it, and the poor will stay poor. And unless you find a way to create more jobs, the result of an unemployed person finding work is that someone else becomes unemployed.

As to free, equal opportunity education: that is a myth. Even within the public education system, standards vary widely to the extent that straight A's at schools in deprived urban areas are not enough for consideration for many colleges. Still, so long as we don't have national standards we can ignore that kind of issue.

On the face of it, you don't have to care about the people our society lets down: that's between you and your conscience. And not everyone believes that a country should be judged by how it cares for those least able to look after themselves: the young, elderly, sick and poor. But if things continue as they are, then eventually gated communities will not merely be a vanity. As more and more people wake up to the reality that society has nothing to offer them, they will also realize that they owe nothing to it.

Pleasurepays · 09-04-2005, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

If nothing else, the question posed in this thread proves that bad education isn't restricted to the poor.

The writer apparently hasn't noticed that our society is pyramidal in structure and that it is competitive in nature. Thus every time someone carves himself a slightly larger piece of cake, someone else's slice gets smaller..

again with the misguided hippie/communist economics. are you saying that economies do not grow? its not a zero sum system no matter how much the uninformed would like it to be. wealth is created. economies grow. sorry for the reality check.

funny how "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" has been the mantra since the dawn of time and yet the distribution of wealth in almost every mature economy remains essentially the same as described by Parretos Law

Dagwolf · 09-04-2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hahahaha

I'm an employer and I employ on attitude.

You actually employ people?

I feel sorry for your employees. And I hope you learn compassion and understanding before something beyond your control wipes you out. Remember the great depression? There were millions of smug, secure people who suddenly found themselves homeless and helpless. Some committed suicide so their families could collect the insurance money; some lived in cardboard boxes with their families and stood around with signs begging for work, or went door-to-door looking for handouts.

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

described by Parretos Law

Whoa don't get all fancy on GFY.

80% of the people here don't know what it is, and the other 20% don't care.

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 12:58 AM

When my father left my mother, she was left with no education, no money and two children. We were poor. I had one pair of shoes and two pair of pants to last me an entire school year. My sister and I were ridiculed and teased through out grade school.

My mom worked a full time job, raised two children as best she could, and went to school part time for 12 years to get an accounting degree and later an MBA to make a better life for herself and her children. I remember her being tired and worn out my entire childhood. She never once complained, took welfare or blamed anyone else for her woes.

Don't tell me what poor people can and can not do. It's more a matter of what poor people will or will not do. The opportunities are there, it's what you make of them.

jayeff · 09-04-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

again with the misguided hippie/communist economics. are you saying that economies do not grow? its not a zero sum system no matter how much the uninformed would like it to be. wealth is created. economies grow. sorry for the reality check.

Of course economies grow (and shrink). Which has what exactly to do with anything I posted? Or are you suggesting that all the government's own statistics are lying and that wealth is actually filtering down to the bottom of the pile?

And get something else through your head. Until Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Reagan came along, the traditional "right-wing" position on both sides of the Atlantic did not support an ever-growing division between rich and poor: some degree of self-control was recognized as the best way for capitalism to sustain itself. That was not and is not a hippie/communist concept, just common sense.

aleck · 09-04-2005, 01:14 AM

Two pair of pants? C'mon that's not poor

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by aleck

Two pair of pants? C'mon that's not poor

In a first world Nation, yes it is.

aleck · 09-04-2005, 01:21 AM

After NO the first world Nation is a bit shady term in fact, sorry.

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by aleck

After NO the first world Nation is a bit shady term in fact, sorry.

Please speak English.

Thanks in advance.

3M TA3 · 09-04-2005, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

When my father left my mother, she was left with no education, no money and two children. We were poor. I had one pair of shoes and two pair of pants to last me an entire school year. My sister and I were ridiculed and teased through out grade school.

My mom worked a full time job, raised two children as best she could, and went to school part time for 12 years to get an accounting degree and later an MBA to make a better life for herself and her children. I remember her being tired and worn out my entire childhood. She never once complained, took welfare or blamed anyone else for her woes.

Don't tell me what poor people can and can not do. It's more a matter of what poor people will or will not do. The opportunities are there, it's what you make of them.

That is awesome!! Tell you mom she did a great thing by giving her children a way to make something out of themselves.

I'll agree that ghetto america doesn't have a nuturing environment, but unfortunatly it's not the government's job to raise their children. I do believe that we make the bed that we lie in.

i grew up in a typical middle class home with 2 educated parents. My dad worked hard so my mom didn't have to. We had a family ski/fishing boat a decent house and took a yearly vacation. When I chose not to go to school (my grades kicked ass in high school) it took years for my parents to accept that decision. Now that they see where I am and what I'm doing (except for the adult stuff that they don't know about) they can't stop talking about me to their friends and neghbors (which pisses me off

).

When I was in high school I spent alot of time in the projects working with a group that would try and mentor and help the people there. I remember when someone got seriously hurt one Saturday, the ambulance wouldn't even go into the projects in fear that they would get hurt. I remember that the police wouldn't even drive through the projects.

Seeing that made me thankfull for the family I was born into. However, if I was born into the projects I would hope I would have the same ambition I have now. I'm sure the business would have changed (it might not even have an SIC code).

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Originally Posted by phonesex

hahahaha, not everyone is the same. Imagine if all was as successful as you? Who would mow your lawn, or cut your hair. Even if everbody was educated there would still be different classes of people.

I don't see people who mow my lawn or cut my hair poor. Even if everyone was educated there would still be poeple who lowed lawns and cut hair because they enjoyed it.

I think the poor people in this country are the ones who are generationaly on welfare or don't care enough to get off welfare.

Sorry for the long post...

2257-Ben · 09-04-2005, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

When my father left my mother, she was left with no education, no money and two children. We were poor. I had one pair of shoes and two pair of pants to last me an entire school year. My sister and I were ridiculed and teased through out grade school.

My mom worked a full time job, raised two children as best she could, and went to school part time for 12 years to get an accounting degree and later an MBA to make a better life for herself and her children. I remember her being tired and worn out my entire childhood. She never once complained, took welfare or blamed anyone else for her woes.

Don't tell me what poor people can and can not do. It's more a matter of what poor people will or will not do. The opportunities are there, it's what you make of them.

Ditto.. my father left my mother when I was 8... she was 26 and had 5 kids. We ended up on welfare. Instead of going to work, my mother sat on her fat ass and drank pepsi, ate cheez-its and watched television. Then she started going out at night to bars to pick up any dick that would stick her and ended up with 2 more babies and another ex-husband.

I left home when I was 16 because I simply could not tolerate the abuse my mother heaped upon us. There were 2 things I knew when I left home. Stay out of trouble and if I wanted to learn anything, I could go to the library. I quit school 5 diifferent times going through my junior year in high school, got a GED in 1981 and to this day there are many people who know me that think I have a college education. Am I anything special, no. I just used common sense and had the desire to raise myself above the level in which I had become trapped through no fault of my own.

I've never had to do anything illegal to keep beans on the table and I thank God for the intellect he blessed me with so I could learn what I needed to learn when I needed to learn it. Yes, there were some very difficult times and some hard lessons to learn, but I did it and I didn't ever once have to ask my family for anything.

Both of my brothers ended up in jail on more than one occassion, and 3 of my 4 sisters ended up with welfare babies and lousy husbands. None of them have ever made anything of themselves. My mother is a drunk and she likes it that way, fucking one loser after another.

I've been a programmer now for more than 34 years, taught myself several different computer languages and made my opportunities when I could.

Yes, I was as poor as poor could have been, but I knew that the only way I wasn't going to be poor for the rest of my life was to do my best to not repeat the mistakes of my parents and my siblings.

When someone tells me they've done the best they could with the tools they had to use, I tell them that's just a cop out and they're lazy.

The problem with the welfare system in this country is that it removes the incentive from people and it destroys their sense of initiative. And now we have paid for this by raising an entire generation of neanderthals who behave like animals and have no respect for authority or any pride in themselves.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

aleck · 09-04-2005, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Please speak English.

Thanks in advance.

excuse me?

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by aleck

excuse me?

Excellent. Two English words, in a row, that make sense. Now you're cooking with gas!

VeriSexy · 09-04-2005, 02:24 AM

Lot's of rich people are willing to exploit poor people for cheap labour

Paying them as little as possible will keep them poor.

aleck · 09-04-2005, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Excellent. Two English words, in a row, that make sense. Now you're cooking with gas!

umm, i see. another gfy poster with the post count instead of iq. good for you. keep posting.

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by aleck

umm, i see. another gfy poster with the post count instead of iq. good for you. keep posting.

Go read your first post I responded to again. It doesn't make sense. It's not English.

xNetworx · 09-04-2005, 02:51 AM

nice nick. Haters is the answer to your question. Its called jealousy.

WarChild · 09-04-2005, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aleck

After NO the first world Nation is a bit shady term in fact, sorry.

Is this Wheel of Fortune? Can I buy a comma? Am I supposed to fill in the missing words? Is NO the word that came out of your last date's mouth or do you mean New Orleans (N.O.)?

aleck · 09-04-2005, 03:07 AM

sorry no commas and yes NO=New Orleans

gangbangjoe · 09-04-2005, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Poor people certainly do breed in large numbers.

bringer · 09-04-2005, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy

Lot's of rich people are willing to exploit poor people for cheap labour

Paying them as little as possible will keep them poor.

until you're ready to pay $15/lb for oranges, you can stfu. i worked fast food when i was young but i was in school. i worked my way threw college working at an a&w moping up bathrooms and cleaning tables. most of the people i worked with were in their 30's making min wage. they had no insurance, atleast 2 kids, and spent most of their money of their pimped out blazer and budweiser. these same people would bitch about thier pay, about the owners being cheap asses, and about how hard it was to find a job. i quit and found a better paying job and wondered why they couldnt do the same. then i realized the sad truth. these people are lazy fucks who do nothing but exploit the system milking it for every penny the whole time bitching about how its not enough. people are idiots, and i could care less if they're poor.

Theo · 09-04-2005, 03:34 AM

lol your signature quote is coming from a post of mine

BlueDesignStudios · 09-04-2005, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Has nothing to do with "education"... It's only about getting yourself out of trouble.

I dispute that - you can't do better if you don't know better - if you dont' have the basic skills & education to leverage off, it's difficult to get out of trouble

aleck · 09-04-2005, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer

then i realized the sad truth. these people are lazy fucks who do nothing but exploit the system milking it for every penny the whole time bitching about how its not enough. people are idiots, and i could care less if they're poor.

so true...

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MetroPornTour Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,043	And how many of these people posting here come from rich america? Hmmmm.... I just wonder. The rich always fuck the poor. Thats how they get rich. __________________ ICQ: 335-670-081 \| L.A.: 213 985 2352 Metroporntour is operated by people that didn't do the Job they were contracted for! Click my image for my official website

09-04-2005, 12:08 AM	#21
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	There are some very prejudiced ignorant views here. Yes the poor could do more to help themselves, but many of the poor are poor through no fault of their own. In the US the ethic is very much about self survival and self help. But what if you are unable to help yourself? Like the old sick and infirm who could not get out on New Orleans and were stranded because the "rich" govermentsimply thinks every one can drive themselves out of town. Then the education system, if you are rich you can afford to move to an area with good schooling and usually good teacher. The poor don't have that option. Should the education system switch the good teachers from the rich areas to the poor areas and visa versa? Loo at some of the porest countries in the world, the reason they are poor is because of the small number of leaders who are getting rich and keeping everyone else poor and usually limiting their own wealth. Iraq, Uganda, Turkmenistan, N. Korea, the list is many. All countries where the poor suffer because of the few rich. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

09-04-2005, 12:40 AM	#25
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	I do love the comparision between USA and Turkmenistan. Made my day for sure. __________________ come trade shemale traffic here

09-04-2005, 12:43 AM	#26
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	If nothing else, the question posed in this thread proves that bad education isn't restricted to the poor. The writer apparently hasn't noticed that our society is pyramidal in structure and that it is competitive in nature. Thus every time someone carves himself a slightly larger piece of cake, someone else's slice gets smaller. But then, the original post didn't attempt to answer the thread's question anyway. It was just an excuse to trot out a generalized stereotype and at that, one which doesn't apply only to the poor. I don't recall the poor ever complaining that the rich make them eat junk food and watch TV all day. I guess the point was supposed to be that the poor could do more to help themselves and that is true to a very limited extent. The flaw is that the dynamics of our economy, particularly over the past 30-some years, have been such that wealth increasingly moves towards the already wealthy, the middle class are more likely to slip down the economic ladder than climb it, and the poor will stay poor. And unless you find a way to create more jobs, the result of an unemployed person finding work is that someone else becomes unemployed. As to free, equal opportunity education: that is a myth. Even within the public education system, standards vary widely to the extent that straight A's at schools in deprived urban areas are not enough for consideration for many colleges. Still, so long as we don't have national standards we can ignore that kind of issue. On the face of it, you don't have to care about the people our society lets down: that's between you and your conscience. And not everyone believes that a country should be judged by how it cares for those least able to look after themselves: the young, elderly, sick and poor. But if things continue as they are, then eventually gated communities will not merely be a vanity. As more and more people wake up to the reality that society has nothing to offer them, they will also realize that they owe nothing to it.

09-04-2005, 12:58 AM	#30
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	When my father left my mother, she was left with no education, no money and two children. We were poor. I had one pair of shoes and two pair of pants to last me an entire school year. My sister and I were ridiculed and teased through out grade school. My mom worked a full time job, raised two children as best she could, and went to school part time for 12 years to get an accounting degree and later an MBA to make a better life for herself and her children. I remember her being tired and worn out my entire childhood. She never once complained, took welfare or blamed anyone else for her woes. Don't tell me what poor people can and can not do. It's more a matter of what poor people will or will not do. The opportunities are there, it's what you make of them. __________________ .

09-04-2005, 01:14 AM	#32
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	Two pair of pants? C'mon that's not poor __________________ come trade shemale traffic here

09-04-2005, 01:21 AM	#34
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	After NO the first world Nation is a bit shady term in fact, sorry. __________________ come trade shemale traffic here

09-04-2005, 02:24 AM	#40
VeriSexy Join The Royal Family Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 25,463	Lot's of rich people are willing to exploit poor people for cheap labour Paying them as little as possible will keep them poor. __________________ Looking for a KICK ASS TEEN SPONSOR? Check out ROYAL CASH - THE KING OF TEEN! Incredible webmaster tools FHGs, Morphing Blog and RSS Feeds, Embedded FLV & WMV Videos. With TOP RATIO Sites like TeenStarsOnly.com - Earn $$ with our New Site & Bonus Payouts!! ATMovs.com \| iTeenVideo.com \| TeenSexMovs.com \| TeenSexMania.com

09-04-2005, 02:51 AM	#43
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	nice nick. Haters is the answer to your question. Its called jealousy.

09-04-2005, 03:07 AM	#45
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	sorry no commas and yes NO=New Orleans __________________ come trade shemale traffic here

09-04-2005, 03:34 AM	#48
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	lol your signature quote is coming from a post of mine