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Old 09-03-2005, 06:48 PM   #1
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Fuck bush what do you think ?

He was not seen t he first 4 days at the storm
All his soldiers are at iraq ?
He wants to control the world and cant even control his own country ?
A storm like that every year , and NO descent plan if something like this happens ?
Why did people voted for him anyway , the whole world is mad at him and they ask for help from all over the world .
It's with mixed feelings , but i think the tsunami will had much more collections al over the world then america will ever get .
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Old 09-03-2005, 06:56 PM   #2
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He was not seen t he first 4 days at the storm
All his soldiers are at iraq ?
He wants to control the world and cant even control his own country ?
A storm like that every year , and NO descent plan if something like this happens ?
Why did people voted for him anyway , the whole world is mad at him and they ask for help from all over the world .
It's with mixed feelings , but i think the tsunami will had much more collections al over the world then america will ever get .
Did you vote for Bush??? if so, why and why are you bitching about your elected choice??? If not...Scarier thought.....what would Kerry Be Doing???
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1. i live in europe
2. kerry would probably returned his soldiers a long time before this disaster happened cause he was not thinking of making war anymore .......
fights against terrorists ? come on , you will never know who they are and when they will strike , and attacking iraq just makes it worser .
Its like a nest of ants . they are everywhere and some day it will bite you .
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A storm like that every year , and NO descent plan if something like this happens ?
In the worlds biggest nuclear country, I thought there were some kind of plans in case things got serious wrong. Maybe that was just hollywood, but there should be some plans, yes. Especially logistic plans.
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I have to say I agree. He wasn't there to see how bad it was for those folks the first few days.. I'm still praying for everyone down there.
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It all takes time to get the plans into place..especially if people are shooting at the people trying to help..they have to contain that first
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It all takes time to get the plans into place..especially if people are shooting at the people trying to help..they have to contain that first

Yep, they do have to contain that first and fast! It is called return fire. It's is called having the balls to do what is needed.

Some teenager drives 80 people to Houston, so they put his ass in jail and give the rest breakfast and throw them out at 1st. A average lawyer will get that kid off, he saved 80 lives by doing what was needed.

There are thousands of buses with a few hundred miles of the Super Dome that could have done the same thing. The governor of LA or the president could of picked up the phone and in-less than 30 seconds had a solution on the way within seconds.


That could have been done before disease was a consideration. Gangs and other undesirables? Have to have the balls to take control. Return fire. Even at the risk of others at this point.
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It all takes time to get the plans into place..especially if people are shooting at the people trying to help..they have to contain that first
Do ya think that maybe, just maybe, if the national guard was moved in right away, that the shooting and looting wouldn't happen.

Shit man, after 9-11 ( I know first hand) the national guard was there the next day. Then again they weren't halfway around the world where they shouldn't be. It is the national guard, they are here for us, not some fucking country that the oil interests want.
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It all takes time to get the plans into place..especially if people are shooting at the people trying to help..they have to contain that first
Give me a fucking break. You get fired upon, you return fire. Worst case a few hour delay to get those with weapons in place. All that $$$ on HomeLand security!!!! What a pile of shit.

I'm a conservative republican that voted for Bush. He found his legacy and it is time for him to move on.
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He was not seen t he first 4 days at the storm
All his soldiers are at iraq ?
He wants to control the world and cant even control his own country ?
A storm like that every year , and NO descent plan if something like this happens ?
Why did people voted for him anyway , the whole world is mad at him and they ask for help from all over the world .
It's with mixed feelings , but i think the tsunami will had much more collections al over the world then america will ever get .

No not all of our soldiers are in Iraq.
There is not much plan against a storm. The city was a hundred and some odd feet underground, what can anyone have done. And hurricanes arent things we can control.

And no, a handful of idiots like you dont qualify as "whole world is mad at him"


And as for "i think the tsunami will had much more collections al over the world then america will ever get"

I agree, America doesnt need pennies from piss poor countries that cant handle thier own shit themselves. We can handle our problems as much as we can and try to help others.

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1. i live in europe
2. kerry would probably returned his soldiers a long time before this disaster happened cause he was not thinking of making war anymore .......
fights against terrorists ? come on , you will never know who they are and when they will strike , and attacking iraq just makes it worser .
Its like a nest of ants . they are everywhere and some day it will bite you .
As for 1 and 2, thank god you live in Europe, i would hate for you to be someone with a choice at who runs my country.
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Old 09-03-2005, 07:30 PM   #12
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What a joke, he would have been even worse. As hard has that is to believe.
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:01 PM   #13
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1. i live in europe
2. kerry would probably returned his soldiers a long time before this disaster happened cause he was not thinking of making war anymore .......
fights against terrorists ? come on , you will never know who they are and when they will strike , and attacking iraq just makes it worser .
Its like a nest of ants . they are everywhere and some day it will bite you .
not looking for an argument...but why do euros always think they know all about the US to the point that they seem to know more than we do about the US??? I don't have a clue about europe, because I don't live there, nor do I presume to say this... or that... or this and that... about europe, again, because I don't live there...I make no pretenses about knowing anything about europe as it would be just what you are doing...presuming and assuming you know all about the US formed by what you (I dangerously assume) read or see in YOUR jaundiced view news sources about the US...just like if I want to know something about europe, I don't rely on US news reports, which even reports US news to the US as they "see it", often not as it is...I read euro news to learn abut europe...which I must admit, is rare, as I don't really want to know about europe...as my irish ancestors were kicked out of ireland by the brits as penal colonists in the 1700s and sent to the Carolina colony and we never looked back...
Now...on the troops in Iraq....The troops would still be in iraq, even if kerry was in office... also the original thought of saving the iraqis from themselves was lost somewhere and it is now a defensive struggle...we haven't been on the offensive since the early days of the invasion...it is our new vietnam...if you pay no attention to history, history repeats itself...just like in vietnam, the iraqis (sunni, shiites and others) have been killing each other for centuries, just as the vietnamese were 40 years ago when we got involved in their politics and tried to liberate them from themselves....did we learn...obviously not...(BTW this in not based on US news...it is based on my brother's related stories to me about Iraq...he is a Lt. Col in the 82nd Airborne and just returned from his 2nd tour of Iraq and the Vietnam part is based on my daddy's views of having been there in the 60s and 70s...they compared notes upon my brother's return home)
Now the way the troops placement in iraq is playing out in your mind may or may not be correctly placed on the situation in NO and the MS coast correctly...it is not a question of having or not having troops to deploy to the affected areas because they are all in iraq...the number of troops in iraq is but a small percentage of our available troops...we would NEVER leave the US unprotected...Bush and his admin claim they were never asked "properly" by the Gov(s) of LA and MS for deployment...the federal govt here must be granted "permission" to deploy federal troops to a state by that states governor...they claim they were asked...but not given permission...of course that is bush's interpretation of the situation and the "correct" way of deployment...but remember he can't spell "a cat" and get the
"a" part right, let alone c-a-t, w/o help.....soooooooooooooo....what needs to be done is now getting done and they should keep doing it untill all people affected are helped and argue about it later...just get'r done,,,,
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:44 PM   #14
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It all takes time to get the plans into place..especially if people are shooting at the people trying to help..they have to contain that first
Plans should have already been in place.. They pretty well knew where the storm was gonna hit.. They could have had the guard in place to be there in a day, as well as other forms of help..

They can't say they didn't know it would be that bad... they were told on numerous ocassions that if it hit NO it would be very bad...
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What a joke, he would have been even worse. As hard has that is to believe.
would you wish to have Clinton back?
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No not all of our soldiers are in Iraq.
There is not much plan against a storm. The city was a hundred and some odd feet underground, what can anyone have done.
Try 6 feet below sea level, not a 'hundred and some odd'. You Bush backers are so bright.
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Try 6 feet below sea level, not a 'hundred and some odd'. You Bush backers are so bright.

Bush backer??? LOL. Try again.
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Scarier thought.....what would Kerry Be Doing???
You tell us, what exactly would Kerry have done that would have been worse?
I know one thing he wouldnt have done. He wouldnt have gone down there and joked around about getting drunk while thousands were starving around him. How fucking pathetic people like you will support a man that fucks up this bad in the name of politics. Next you're going to say Clintons penis is to blame.
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Yep, they do have to contain that first and fast! It is called return fire. It's is called having the balls to do what is needed.

Some teenager drives 80 people to Houston, so they put his ass in jail and give the rest breakfast and throw them out at 1st. A average lawyer will get that kid off, he saved 80 lives by doing what was needed.

There are thousands of buses with a few hundred miles of the Super Dome that could have done the same thing. The governor of LA or the president could of picked up the phone and in-less than 30 seconds had a solution on the way within seconds.
Was this kid the driver of the "renegade" bus? If so, yea, - he deserves a damned medal! At least he did something and probably saved a few asses along the way.

That kinda stuff makes ya think "authorities" have no clue and would be totally lost (hell, they were!) if something more than Katrina hit. They'd still be checking driving licenses while bodies were rotting around em.

That mentality is amazingly deficent.
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He was not seen t he first 4 days at the storm
All his soldiers are at iraq ?
He wants to control the world and cant even control his own country ?
A storm like that every year , and NO descent plan if something like this happens ?
Why did people voted for him anyway , the whole world is mad at him and they ask for help from all over the world .
It's with mixed feelings , but i think the tsunami will had much more collections al over the world then america will ever get .
Come back to the internet when you know how to organise a thought
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Get caught doing what?

Besides there is much more proof regarding illegal oil contracts and transactions pointing at other people
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I don't think he could POSSIBALLY be doing any worse.
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No not all of our soldiers are in Iraq.
There is not much plan against a storm. The city was a hundred and some odd feet underground, what can anyone have done. And hurricanes arent things we can control.

And no, a handful of idiots like you dont qualify as "whole world is mad at him"


And as for "i think the tsunami will had much more collections al over the world then america will ever get"

I agree, America doesnt need pennies from piss poor countries that cant handle thier own shit themselves. We can handle our problems as much as we can and try to help others.



As for 1 and 2, thank god you live in Europe, i would hate for you to be someone with a choice at who runs my country.
HAHA yeah right then tell me why bush has said on the late news he wants all donations posible ? if its a SOOOOO proud country .... + Bush didnt even fucking cared about it for the first 4 days ... doesnt this say enough ?
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not looking for an argument...but why do euros always think they know all about the US to the point that they seem to know more than we do about the US??? I don't have a clue about europe, because I don't live there, nor do I presume to say this... or that... or this and that... about europe, again, because I don't live there...I make no pretenses about knowing anything about europe as it would be just what you are doing...presuming and assuming you know all about the US formed by what you (I dangerously assume) read or see in YOUR jaundiced view news sources about the US...just like if I want to know something about europe, I don't rely on US news reports, which even reports US news to the US as they "see it", often not as it is...I read euro news to learn abut europe...which I must admit, is rare, as I don't really want to know about europe...as my irish ancestors were kicked out of ireland by the brits as penal colonists in the 1700s and sent to the Carolina colony and we never looked back...
Now...on the troops in Iraq....The troops would still be in iraq, even if kerry was in office... also the original thought of saving the iraqis from themselves was lost somewhere and it is now a defensive struggle...we haven't been on the offensive since the early days of the invasion...it is our new vietnam...if you pay no attention to history, history repeats itself...just like in vietnam, the iraqis (sunni, shiites and others) have been killing each other for centuries, just as the vietnamese were 40 years ago when we got involved in their politics and tried to liberate them from themselves....did we learn...obviously not...(BTW this in not based on US news...it is based on my brother's related stories to me about Iraq...he is a Lt. Col in the 82nd Airborne and just returned from his 2nd tour of Iraq and the Vietnam part is based on my daddy's views of having been there in the 60s and 70s...they compared notes upon my brother's return home)
Now the way the troops placement in iraq is playing out in your mind may or may not be correctly placed on the situation in NO and the MS coast correctly...it is not a question of having or not having troops to deploy to the affected areas because they are all in iraq...the number of troops in iraq is but a small percentage of our available troops...we would NEVER leave the US unprotected...Bush and his admin claim they were never asked "properly" by the Gov(s) of LA and MS for deployment...the federal govt here must be granted "permission" to deploy federal troops to a state by that states governor...they claim they were asked...but not given permission...of course that is bush's interpretation of the situation and the "correct" way of deployment...but remember he can't spell "a cat" and get the
"a" part right, let alone c-a-t, w/o help.....soooooooooooooo....what needs to be done is now getting done and they should keep doing it untill all people affected are helped and argue about it later...just get'r done,,,,
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HAHA yeah right then tell me why bush has said on the late news he wants all donations posible ? if its a SOOOOO proud country .... + Bush didnt even fucking cared about it for the first 4 days ... doesnt this say enough ?

English is obvioulsy not your first language. I have no idea what you said, i speak russian and spanish if that helps, maybe i can understand you better.
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