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Old 09-02-2005, 10:38 AM   #51
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and if that fat fuck hadnt eaten all the food, we might be able to send some aid down there...
Ho. Ho...

And as to your later similarly reasoned response: I assume from that we cannot listen to any message unless it is delivered by someone who is poverty-stricken? That concept doesn't altogether work in a country where every electoral position is effectively bought...

When you have finished wasting our time with the irrelevancy of knocking the man behind the message, how about pointing up any flaws in what he actually wrote?
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:39 AM   #52
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moore wouldnt have made bank if bush hadnt been elected, hope he knows that....
How many times was Bush mentioned in 'Roger and Me'?

Moore is 10x the patriot and a much better citizen than GWB. He actually cares about this country and it's citizens and has done something about it.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:52 AM   #53
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gee wiz does he make a lot of stong points. almost makes me dislike bush

may him and cheney rot in hell.
Stay on his ass Michael. Great stuff.
Bush's presidency is a lot like the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans and Mississippi......a complete catastrophe.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:53 AM   #54
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yeah you hear this a lot from Republicans, except that except for the fact that the NRA actually came to Columbine a couple months after the shooting instead of a couple days, they can't point out any distortions or lies in his films. Because they're aren't any.

The bad thing about conservatives is that they want SO BADLY to be right, to be smarter than the liberal eggheads, it takes away all their critical judgement. You can't be shown certain facts and then make judgements based on those facts because you're too busy trying to figure out how to fight those facts so you can be 'right' again. ANyone who watches 9-11 or reads up on the personal history of GWB and STILL votes for him is fucking defective in the head imho.
Dig a bit more into those movie facts, there are many fallacies in them.

You watched the movies now read the other side and made your own determination.

http://www.moorewatch.com/
http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/

There are three sides to every story, Michael Moore tells only one. To say that his has no inaccuracies or twists of facts is inaccurate.
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Old 09-02-2005, 10:58 AM   #55
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yeah you hear this a lot from Republicans, except that except for the fact that the NRA actually came to Columbine a couple months after the shooting instead of a couple days, they can't point out any distortions or lies in his films. Because they're aren't any.

The bad thing about conservatives is that they want SO BADLY to be right, to be smarter than the liberal eggheads, it takes away all their critical judgement. You can't be shown certain facts and then make judgements based on those facts because you're too busy trying to figure out how to fight those facts so you can be 'right' again. ANyone who watches 9-11 or reads up on the personal history of GWB and STILL votes for him is fucking defective in the head imho.
Oh and by the way, I not a republican or a conservative, I am a Libertarian. I did not vote for Bush or Kerry as I think they both suck. Thanks for making me fit into one of your cookie cutters though.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:02 AM   #56
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Dig a bit more into those movie facts, there are many fallacies in them.

You watched the movies now read the other side and made your own determination.

http://www.moorewatch.com/
http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/

There are three sides to every story, Michael Moore tells only one. To say that his has no inaccuracies or twists of facts is inaccurate.
No, there is only one side to the story. I read a lot of these a long time ago, and mostly what they do is claim they're 'debunking' Moore's film, but when you read the actual text of what they say all they do is cry about the 'cheap shots' Moore takes. Such as the Wolfowitz comb-licking thing. You see a lot of lines like '(Moore) Defends the factual accuracy of the segment, which no one has ever disputed... but it was in bad taste'.

Face it: Bush is an incompetent spoiled rich boy from Connecticut who failed at everything he ever tried to do except misleading ignorant conservatives. Apparently it's easier to become President by pandering to the lowest common denominators in our society than it is to run a successful business.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:04 AM   #57
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Oh and by the way, I not a republican or a conservative, I am a Libertarian. I did not vote for Bush or Kerry as I think they both suck. Thanks for making me fit into one of your cookie cutters though.
yeah. You, Theking, Colin and about 800 other 'libertarians' who don't like Bush yet somehow pop up in almost political thread to defend his indefensible monkey ass.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:05 AM   #58
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No, there is only one side to the story. I read a lot of these a long time ago, and mostly what they do is claim they're 'debunking' Moore's film, but when you read the actual text of what they say all they do is cry about the 'cheap shots' Moore takes. Such as the Wolfowitz comb-licking thing. You see a lot of lines like '(Moore) Defends the factual accuracy of the segment, which no one has ever disputed... but it was in bad taste'.

Face it: Bush is an incompetent spoiled rich boy from Connecticut who failed at everything he ever tried to do except misleading ignorant conservatives. Apparently it's easier to become President by pandering to the lowest common denominators in our society than it is to run a successful business.
This was about Moore not Bush, but keep bringing it up as if helps your argument for Moore. The comment "No, there is only one side to the story" is so close minded its wrong. Thank you for reminding me why I shouldnt argue on message boards.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:06 AM   #59
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yeah. You, Theking, Colin and about 800 other 'libertarians' who don't like Bush yet somehow pop up in almost political thread to defend his indefensible monkey ass.
Hey pot, this is kettle, you?re black. What you claim I do, you do in inverse. I am not defending Bush, for the last time, I am against Mr Moore read all my posts above.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:22 AM   #60
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yeah. You, Theking, Colin and about 800 other 'libertarians' who don't like Bush yet somehow pop up in almost political thread to defend his indefensible monkey ass.
You obviously need to learn about the libertarian party. Here is some reading for you:

What is a Libertarian?



Libertarians believe that you have the right to live your life as you wish, without the government interfering -- as long as you don?t violate the rights of others. Politically, this means Libertarians favor rolling back the size and cost of government, and eliminating laws that stifle the economy and control people?s personal choices.



Are Libertarians liberal or conservative?



Libertarians are neither. Unlike liberals or conservatives, Libertarians advocate a high degree of both personal and economic liberty. For example, Libertarians agree with conservatives about freedom in economic matters, so we're in favor of lowering taxes, slashing bureaucratic regulation of business, and charitable -- rather than government -- welfare. But Libertarians also agree with liberals on personal tolerance, so we're in favor of people?s right to choose their own personal habits and lifestyles.



In a sense, Libertarians ?borrow? from both sides to come up with a logical and consistent whole -- but without the exceptions and broken promises of Republican and Democratic politicians. That's why we call ourselves the Party of Principle.

http://www.lp.org/article_85.shtml

That might help you understand why we seem to take a stance against and for both parties.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:39 AM   #61
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Michael hits the nail on the head.

This one. The way Bush must be feeling after his long holiday ended abruptly.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/s...561417,00.html

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Old 09-02-2005, 11:40 AM   #62
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and if that fat fuck hadnt eaten all the food, we might be able to send some aid down there...
Yet another well thought out intelligent GFY response.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:46 AM   #63
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Michael hits the nail on the head.

This one. The way Bush must be feeling after his long holiday ended abruptly.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/s...561417,00.html


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Old 09-02-2005, 11:49 AM   #64
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this is a natural disaster... people always jump out of the woodwork to point fingers "after the fact". give the guy a fucking break.

btw, i dont even like bush.
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btw, i dont even like bush.
Thank god .....

If you did, what would you say ???
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:50 AM   #66
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If this happen in Kennebunkport, ME everybody would be saved that night or the next day. New Orleans I belive was the 8th most dangerous city in the US, I'm sure Bush sees Katrina as a few months late spring cleaning.

Notice how Moore pointed out that there was nothing unusual about the hurricane? He knows it was intentionally created.

Just like 9/11. Anyone find it odd that the hijackers stayed at a hotel in Portland, ME the night before the attacks? 2 hours north of logan airport and 20 minutes away from Kennebunkport, ME. Bush's home town. Bush said "You'll be safe and unnoticed in Portland, ME for the night". I garauntee it.
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Notice how Moore pointed out that there was nothing unusual about the hurricane? He knows it was intentionally created.
Best comment so far. Could you imagine if the gov could create hurricanes. North Korea would be have some very strange weather patterns.
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No, North Korea is a legitimate threat to this country. Bush would 'bring democracy' to Turkmenistan.
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No, North Korea is a legitimate threat to this country. Bush would 'bring democracy' to Turkmenistan.
So you would support military actions against North Korea? There is a lot of talk that they dont really have what they claim to have. Yes they have nuke capabilities but no means of delivering them. Seems like another Iraq situation in the makings.
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So you would support military actions against North Korea? There is a lot of talk that they dont really have what they claim to have. Yes they have nuke capabilities but no means of delivering them. Seems like another Iraq situation in the makings.
Bush knows that starting a war against North Korea would be a blood bath. The difference between Iraq and North Korea, is that they have the capability to make nuclear bombs, Iraq was and still is incapable of doing it.
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Bush knows that starting a war against North Korea would be a blood bath. The difference between Iraq and North Korea, is that they have the capability to make nuclear bombs, Iraq was and still is incapable of doing it.
With no way of delivering it they could only blow up South Korea which would also affect them. I still think N. Korea would get a hurricane or 10 if the gov could make them. But what do I know; I am just a closet case Republican according to those who don?t know what a Libertarian is.

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