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Old 09-02-2005, 06:59 AM   #51
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:01 AM   #52
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Everyone should have evacuated before the hurricane hit.
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:06 AM   #54
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This is not about the federal government, this is about an incompetent guy who is the mayor of NO and who created a monster.
The federal government fucked up from day 1, I know that, you know that, and anyone who tries to make excuse for them has their head in their ass.
LOL how much authority do you think a mayor has?

This is a catastrophe that a few first responders are calling "of biblical proportions."

A single mayor and a lone police force are not going to get this situation under control.
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:07 AM   #55
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This is not about the federal government, this is about an incompetent guy who is the mayor of NO and who created a monster.
The federal government fucked up from day 1, I know that, you know that, and anyone who tries to make excuse for them has their head in their ass.
About the Mayor you are correct.... blame game.. cover ass time..

federal and state governments, fucked up and not just them, there has been a whole bunch of fuck ups..

Another day or two, the blame game starts BIG time.
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:10 AM   #56
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LOL how much authority do you think a mayor has?

This is a catastrophe that a few first responders are calling "of biblical proportions."

A single mayor and a lone police force are not going to get this situation under control.
The mayor has authority on the police department to start with.
Why did the mayor explicitly tell the police department to let the looting go on?
Had this incompetent mayor stopped the looting when it started, then the situation would not be as bad as it is.
End of story.
Now it 's hell and we are all going to pay.
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:10 AM   #57
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:13 AM   #58
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The mayor has authority on the police department to start with.
Why did the mayor explicitly tell the police department to let the looting go on?
Had this incompetent mayor stopped the looting when it started, then the situation would not be as bad as it is.
End of story.
Now it 's hell and we are all going to pay.
what do you mean? stop the looting? are you retarded?

how the fuck is a relatively SMALL police force in relation to the amount of looters, going to STOP all of it from happening?

the decision was right, help save people first - let the god damn looters do what they want, saving life is more important.
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what do you mean? stop the looting? are you retarded?

how the fuck is a relatively SMALL police force in relation to the amount of looters, going to STOP all of it from happening?

the decision was right, help save people first - let the god damn looters do what they want, saving life is more important.
1- How many people are dying because what started out as small isolated looting incidents has now become an organized pillaging of the city by gangs of mercyless thugs?

2- Remember how many looters there were at first, not that many. Crime is like gangrene, it spreads fast, as soon as the real criminal realized it was a free for all, then hell started.
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The mayor has authority on the police department to start with.
Why did the mayor explicitly tell the police department to let the looting go on?
Had this incompetent mayor stopped the looting when it started, then the situation would not be as bad as it is.
End of story.
Now it 's hell and we are all going to pay.
Grow the fuck up and learn some critical thinking skills.

The resources in relation to the issues at hand left them with no choice but to execute rescue efforts first.
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:20 AM   #61
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Grow the fuck up and learn some critical thinking skills.
Let me try one more time to get a message through your thick skull with a very simple analogy for you to understand.

You are a big boy who just got a little cut on your finger.
Your momma tells you to clean it up with some alcohol and apply a bandage.
You decide not to do like momma says
Next day the cut is infected but you still decide that it's gonna get better
Next day you are hurting like a bitch and decide to tell momma
Momma takes you to the doctor who tells you to get you ass over to the hospital
Now you got fucking gangrene in your hand and they got to amputate or else you're gonna die.

GET THE MESSAGE OR I GOT TO INSERT A PICTURE OF FUCKING BARNEY THE DINOSAUR ?????
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1- How many people are dying because what started out as small isolated looting incidents has now become an organized pillaging of the city by gangs of mercyless thugs?

2- Remember how many looters there were at first, not that many. Crime is like gangrene, it spreads fast, as soon as the real criminal realized it was a free for all, then hell started.
It was never fucking small! These people went apeshit from the beginning. Stop listening to the news and look at the first hand accounts from people that were there. You are 100% wrong and you are completely nuts if you believe your own bullshit.
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:33 AM   #63
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The mayor has authority on the police department to start with.
Why did the mayor explicitly tell the police department to let the looting go on?
Had this incompetent mayor stopped the looting when it started, then the situation would not be as bad as it is.
End of story.
Now it 's hell and we are all going to pay.
Aside from being stuborn , you seem to have a problem to comprehend the situation ....

I myself, if stuck there, would have looted to get water, food, diapers for kids, cigarettes ....
You would shoot the mother of an infant because she loots " formula " ....

Sure, some looters were real pricks (tv's, etc ...) but if the National Gards would have been IN PLACE before hand , looting would have been minimal .

Anyway, no time to loose to convince the inconvincible ... The population is at fault, the pilice is at fault, the mayor is at fault, the governor is at fault ... and it stops there ... how convenient.
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Old 09-02-2005, 07:35 AM   #64
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Aside from being stuborn , you seem to have a problem to comprehend the situation ....

I myself, if stuck there, would have looted to get water, food, diapers for kids, cigarettes ....
You would shout the mother of an infant because she loots " formula " ....

Sure, some looters were real pricks (tv's, etc ...) but if the National Gards would have been IN PLACE before hand , looting would have been minimal .

Anyway, no time to loose to convince the inconvincible ... The population is at fault, the pilice is at fault, the mayor is at fault, the governor is at fault ... and it stops there ... how convenient.
Everyone is at fault here from the people who thinks it's ok to steal if it is to eat to bush who is too busy in his middle east utopia
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Let me try one more time to get a message through your thick skull with a very simple analogy for you to understand.

You are a big boy who just got a little cut on your finger.
Your momma tells you to clean it up with some alcohol and apply a bandage.
You decide not to do like momma says
Next day the cut is infected but you still decide that it's gonna get better
Next day you are hurting like a bitch and decide to tell momma
Momma takes you to the doctor who tells you to get you ass over to the hospital
Now you got fucking gangrene in your hand and they got to amputate or else you're gonna die.

GET THE MESSAGE OR I GOT TO INSERT A PICTURE OF FUCKING BARNEY THE DINOSAUR ?????

Here's a more accurate one.

Kid gets arms blown off.. all dr's are too busy to see him and is turned away from hospitals due to lack of resources.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:39 AM   #66
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Too bad he doesn't have enough power to get things moving.... You can tell the guy feels totally helpless cause all the political BULLSHIT is not working....
You're totally right, of course. Mayors really don't have the resources under their authority to handle a situation of this magnitude. I'd say even state governors don't have the resources to deal with such a situation, especially in a more poor state like louisiana. This kind of thing requires immediate action by the federal government. The Feds declared a state of emergency BEFORE the storm hit..they knew what was coming. How could they not have begun preparing relief/control forces?

Props again to Mayor Nagin for telling it like it is and making it clear in concrete terms the incredible gravity of the situation.
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1- How many people are dying because what started out as small isolated looting incidents has now become an organized pillaging of the city by gangs of mercyless thugs?

2- Remember how many looters there were at first, not that many. Crime is like gangrene, it spreads fast, as soon as the real criminal realized it was a free for all, then hell started.
Some facts for you

A cop got shot in the head when he tried to stop the looting.
A national guard was shot at the Superdome when he was trying to secure it.
Firefighters could not fight fires coz there was no water pressure.
Emergency cars were mostly flooded or out of gas.
COPS WERE OUTNUMBERED with looters that were packing heat.


Soo... my question to you is "Would you rather the limited police force patrol the areas looking for survivors, or would you like them to station teams in front of shops 24/7 guarding the local shops?"

The only way to stop the looting is with force. You aren't going to stop hundreds of looters with 3 cops in front of a Walmart! Oh wait, there are thousands of shops... and only 1500 police officers
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I liked the image on Fox News today of the lot full of New Orleans school busses that are still parked in their lot instead of being used by the New Orleans Mayor to evacuate the indigent prior to the hurricane. Surely the Mayor knew that there was a portion of his city who didn't have the ability to leave ... but he seemed to find a way out of town and left his people behind.

Is Jesse Jackson back from vacation yet? I haven't seen the Rainbow Coalition roll up into New Orleans yet.

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Some facts for you

A cop got shot in the head when he tried to stop the looting.
A national guard was shot at the Superdome when he was trying to secure it.
Firefighters could not fight fires coz there was no water pressure.
Emergency cars were mostly flooded or out of gas.
COPS WERE OUTNUMBERED with looters that were packing heat.


Soo... my question to you is "Would you rather the limited police force patrol the areas looking for survivors, or would you like them to station teams in front of shops 24/7 guarding the local shops?"

The only way to stop the looting is with force. You aren't going to stop hundreds of looters with 3 cops in front of a Walmart! Oh wait, there are thousands of shops... and only 1500 police officers
... and imagine those people couldn't have those guns / semi-automatic guns or fully-automatic guns ... I'm sure they weren't carrying around single shot pistols, or hunting rifles..

The US government fucked up again ...

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I really wonder what Bush is bribing the Mayor with right now - give his City a full revival and drive / bring business and make the black people of his town.

Something fucked up like that will happen so the Mayor is all happy and tells all the people that President Bush is great!

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... and imagine those people couldn't have those guns / semi-automatic guns or fully-automatic guns ... I'm sure they weren't carrying around single shot pistols, or hunting rifles..

The US government fucked up again ...

Matt
I think I agree with you... your response was a bit confusing.

My point is that the city could not cope with the looting with the current amount of police and national guards.

What should have been done is the FULL FORCE of the US's National Guards should have been sent in on DAY 1 to restore order.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Over 1/3 of the National Guards are stationed in IRAQ right now. If the National Guard is equipped for IRAQ, they should be more than equipped for NO
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The mayor has authority on the police department to start with.
Why did the mayor explicitly tell the police department to let the looting go on?
Had this incompetent mayor stopped the looting when it started, then the situation would not be as bad as it is.
End of story.
Now it 's hell and we are all going to pay.

WTF do you do to the looters trying to get food, water and dry clothes? Shoot them or lock them up?? Pretty sure the looters will bare arms if they want to live. There is not enough water and food to go around.... Loot or die... People at the shelters have not had water or food for days....
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1- How many people are dying because what started out as small isolated looting incidents has now become an organized pillaging of the city by gangs of mercyless thugs?

2- Remember how many looters there were at first, not that many. Crime is like gangrene, it spreads fast, as soon as the real criminal realized it was a free for all, then hell started.

LOL you have any idea how many thugs there are in NOL??? They started looting ones things started to calm down in NOL and then there's looters that have given up on government for help and just decided to help themselves than go hungry and dieing.
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Some facts for you

A cop got shot in the head when he tried to stop the looting.
A national guard was shot at the Superdome when he was trying to secure it.
Firefighters could not fight fires coz there was no water pressure.
Emergency cars were mostly flooded or out of gas.
COPS WERE OUTNUMBERED with looters that were packing heat.


Soo... my question to you is "Would you rather the limited police force patrol the areas looking for survivors, or would you like them to station teams in front of shops 24/7 guarding the local shops?"

The only way to stop the looting is with force. You aren't going to stop hundreds of looters with 3 cops in front of a Walmart! Oh wait, there are thousands of shops... and only 1500 police officers
Don't try to talk sense into him, he is talking out of his ass. Let's arm him with a gun and let's seem him to try stop 50 armed and hungry blacks.
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