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Old 09-01-2005, 12:29 AM   #251
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US National Debt

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 01 Sep 2005 at 07:02:04 AM GMT is:
7,941,745,303,925.55


The estimated population of the United States is 297,043,008
so each citizen's share of this debt is $26,736.01.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.68 billion per day since September 30, 2004!
man o man o man you people must love google...LOL BTW, is that based on/// Greenwich Mean Time or the Icelandic Water Clock
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:33 AM   #252
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So would he be more thankful for more money or "level of generosity"?

hmm well....let's find one and ask him LOL... ;)

nah I get the 'more money is better" point...

I'm just pissed when AlienQ acts like americans are the only one giving money and are the most generous in the world...and saying stupid shit like "We americans should donate less..no one cares about us blablah" which is just not true...I'm sure every one receiving aid is glad that the USA gives a lot of money...but don't act like you're the only ones donating!....

I mean of course they can afford to give more with a huge population..it's just common sense...fact is, other countries are generous too (and give much more money per capita)...that's my only point!...
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:41 AM   #253
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hmm well....let's find one and ask him LOL... ;)

nah I get the 'more money is better" point...

I'm just pissed when AlienQ acts like americans are the only one giving money and are the most generous in the world...and saying stupid shit like "We americans should donate less..no one cares about us blablah" which is just not true...I'm sure every one receiving aid is glad that the USA gives a lot of money...but don't act like you're the only ones donating!....

I mean of course they can afford to give more with a huge population..it's just common sense...fact is, other countries are generous too (and give much more money per capita)...that's my only point!...
LOL

and i respect and agree with your point

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LOL

and i respect and agree with your point



here ya go! thanks for proving you have common sense!


I think the thread took a wrong turn...the point is not to prove that the US is not generous enough...and even less to try to say that their money isnt appreciated! That just wouldnt be true...
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here ya go! thanks for proving you have common sense!


I think the thread took a wrong turn...the point is not to prove that the US is not generous enough...and even less to try to say that their money isnt appreciated! That just wouldnt be true...


Bottom line is as much as we vote elected officials into office - citizens assert little to no control over anything but what THEY DO PERSONALLY.

My wife is one of the most generous and compassionate people I've ever met. Years before we met, when she was in her mid 20's - every sunday she would wake up early and make 50 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. She'd drive around the "homeless areas" in San Diego and hand them out to whomever she saw living on the street.

My wife had little money at the time but a lot of heart. It was not her responsibility to do what she did BUT it's her nature to be kind and help others.

We should generally be thankful to any person or country that lends a helping hand regardless of how much and what % per capita.

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My wife had little money at the time but a lot of heart. It was not her responsibility to do what she did BUT it's her nature to be kind and help others.

We should generally be thankful to any person or country that lends a helping hand regardless of how much and what % per capita.


That's true!...

and to your wife...very few people would do that!...
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That's true!...

and to your wife...very few people would do that!...
It looks like sensibility killed this thread



I'm off to bed!

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hmm well....let's find one and ask him LOL... ;)

nah I get the 'more money is better" point...

I'm just pissed when AlienQ acts like americans are the only one giving money and are the most generous in the world...and saying stupid shit like "We americans should donate less..no one cares about us blablah" which is just not true...I'm sure every one receiving aid is glad that the USA gives a lot of money...but don't act like you're the only ones donating!....

I mean of course they can afford to give more with a huge population..it's just common sense...fact is, other countries are generous too (and give much more money per capita)...that's my only point!...
Where did I say that idiot?
Please...

Giving Money? We do. What is sad is no other country really helps out the USA.
Infact insult to injury many countries insult and degrade the United States for our efforts. Its called Anti American sentiment and there is alot of it.
No matter how generous the USA is we are insulted.

Frankly this American is sick of it.
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Most of you foriegn twat wanna be webmasters only manage to get Cash from American Card Holders. A great nation you insult and live on and what we do is still never enough.
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Most of you foriegn twat wanna be webmasters only manage to get Cash from American Card Holders. A great nation you insult and live on and what we do is still never enough.
Oh, please. If you had the possibility, talent and language skills necessary to milk japanese and chinese markets, you would...and you'd still talk down to the damn dirty asians.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:38 AM   #262
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Where did I say that idiot?
Please...

Giving Money? We do. What is sad is no other country really helps out the USA.
Infact insult to injury many countries insult and degrade the United States for our efforts. Its called Anti American sentiment and there is alot of it.
No matter how generous the USA is we are insulted.

Frankly this American is sick of it.
more than once in this thread you said stupid shit like
"Americans goto wake up and stop feeding foriegn ingrate assholes." (that's your own words)

and to remind you your FIRST post in this thread:

"While the USA has givin billions in AID for relief to other countries for natural disasters and the world community at large places AID and Relief to other countires stricken by natural disasters it will be America that has to bare the burden of paying for our own natural disasters while the world community will sit and laugh and never think twice about helping.

We wont see a fucken dime from other nations to help with New Orleans.
Yet our Generousity is unparalled in helping others."


Fact is...several countries offered their help...

What the fuck more do you expect? Since you sent money to Africa, you thought they would send you some back for N.O.???
I'm pretty sure they have other problems to deal with...coutries to which you sent aids wont help you back, they need that fucking money... but other rich countries offered their help..so your whole point doesn't even stand..
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A question for those that think the total amount is the only important number. By your logic, the US is more genreous than any of the single small countries that donated more per capita. What if, hypothetically, all of Europe became one country and still donated the same amount of money. Would this somehow mean that they were all of a sudden more generous, even though they were donating the exact same amount?

I seriously cannot believe you guys can't grasp the significane of per capita and GDP statistics.

Hey, Zimbabwe has better unemployment than the US because they only have 8.4 million people out of work compared to the US's 14.75 million! Hahahah. Jackasses.
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I even quoted an economist who specialises in aid donation studies...but somehow we have a better economist right here on GFY...

I'm off to bed hehe...choda I think you're in europe...it's your shift now LOL...do your best...

and who the fuck needs an economist to understand that per capita statistics ARE relevant when you're dealing with different population sizes and want to compare something
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Hehe, i'm down in Australia. We're pretty far down the list, too.
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Yeah everything is cool.
The world just loves America...
There is no such thing as Anti American Sentiment.
America does not give enough.
America should give more per person.


You fuckers are impossible.
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Yeah everything is cool.
The world just loves America...
There is no such thing as Anti American Sentiment.
America does not give enough.
America should give more per person.


You fuckers are impossible.

Dude, you have tunnelvision.
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Yeah everything is cool.
pretty much

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The world just loves America...
There is no such thing as Anti American Sentiment.
HINTIf people don't like America (not saying they do..)...it's probably not because they don't give enough in aid donation....

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America does not give enough.
America should give more per person.
who said that?? We're only saying other countries give more per capita than US...if US wants to send more...great...if not..well too bad...I'll still sleep tonight...
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Dude, you have tunnelvision.
Dude...

Your a fucking moron.
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Your a fucking moron.
Care to explain?
Because I hate YOUR arrogance and ignorance?
I don't hate america. Care to explain why I'm a fucking moron?
Because I disagree with your (flawed) reasoning?
You DO have tunnel vision, you don't see the world around you.
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Care to explain?
Because I hate YOUR arrogance and ignorance?
I don't hate america. Care to explain why I'm a fucking moron?
Because I disagree with your (flawed) reasoning?
You DO have tunnel vision, you don't see the world around you.
Nah I just think you are a fucking moron.
I read your bullshit. Your useless.

Thats all.
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we are antiamericans and the best part? you can't do shit
we bomb and attack the shit out of you with your own tax money

fucking idiots lol
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Nah I just think you are a fucking moron.
I read your bullshit. Your useless.

Thats all.
You really need to take a look in the mirror.
You're the one who's useless, nothing but pointless patriotism and blindness.
But if hatered towards the outside world makes you feel better about yourself, knock yourself out. If you can't grasp something which has been spelled out to you for, what 7, pages.. you're too dumb to understand it.
No point in laughing at me, you should just give it up and realize the facts.
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You really need to take a look in the mirror.
You're the one who's useless, nothing but pointless patriotism and blindness.
But if hatered towards the outside world makes you feel better about yourself, knock yourself out. If you can't grasp something which has been spelled out to you for, what 7, pages.. you're too dumb to understand it.
No point in laughing at me, you should just give it up and realize the facts.
Ya didnt read all seven pages ya fucken lame tool.
If ya had ya would see the validity and the bullshit these foriegn pukes throw into America's faces everyday. It does not take a genious to see the crap that spews from these bottom feeders keyboards.

I myself would rather not see the USA put its efforts into asshole countries and I think some isolationism for America is in order. USA gives alot and at the same time all these fucks berate the US.

God forbid an American have some pride...

Fuck you people.
Get your own credit card pool instead of scamming ours. Its American consumers that feed most of you insolent foriegn ingrates in this industry but ya never stop to insult its people and actions.

Eat my soaking dick.
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It does not take a genious to see the crap that spews from these bottom feeders keyboards.
Like yours.
I doesn't indeed take a genius to see your mindless ramblings.
I don't know why I bother, I don't know why anyone does. You're just trying to convert everyone to see how you see things, regardless how they really are. Everyone who disagrees with you is a moron. No wonder you have such anger, everyone else is a moron except you... must be hard on you to live amongst all the idiots.
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HAHAHA he's officially losts his mind...nice
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Get your own credit card pool instead of scamming ours. Its American consumers that feed most of you insolent foriegn ingrates in this industry but ya never stop to insult its people and actions.
Isn't that great? We use you and abuse you. Personally I appreciate that. I mean seriously if you guys weren't so generous we would have major problems. You prefer to have your own problems unresolved and provide support to us and on top of that we still hate you. Few realization posts here won't change anything. We got the whole deal man. Boom.
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Ya didnt read all seven pages ya fucken lame tool.
If ya had ya would see the validity and the bullshit these foriegn pukes throw into America's faces everyday. It does not take a genious to see the crap that spews from these bottom feeders keyboards.

I myself would rather not see the USA put its efforts into asshole countries and I think some isolationism for America is in order. USA gives alot and at the same time all these fucks berate the US.

God forbid an American have some pride...

Fuck you people.
Get your own credit card pool instead of scamming ours. Its American consumers that feed most of you insolent foriegn ingrates in this industry but ya never stop to insult its people and actions.

Eat my soaking dick.
come on tell us how you really feel LOL...
Blind rage...Forget all comon sense ...


still doesn't make you right...


Oh well now i'm really off to bed..thanks for the good laugh...and a good postcount boost...hahaha..damn
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HAHAHA he's officially losts his mind...nice
I do not care one way or the other.

I myself do not do business with asshole foriegners and have deliberatly done business for many years with Americans only. And an Occasional Brit 2 to be exact in 10 years.

Eurotrash? Nah...
Canadian Trash? Nah...

See...
I got some principals and if you Canadian fucks are not getting the picture...
Many American webmasters are getting sick of your hate mongering and whinning about America.
Frankly maybe I am one of the first to just come out and say it.

Most of you are weak ingrateful scum bags that do not deserve the time of day.
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and you still haven't seen shit of our master plan. Behind this is old good europe using muslim countries to make you bend. What's gonna be your next move? More likely go and attack Iran, Syria or some other shithole, blow billions, while we sit back and watch. I admit, us, the eurotrashes had been idle for some time, but we are back to our tricks. Get a european history book and you'll see what i'm talking about.
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I have pulled you along this far to expose just how you feel, you people are ingrates and over the years have laughed at 9/11, laughing now about New Orleans, laugh everytime an American Soldier dies in Iraq.

You people are vermin.
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I have pulled you along this far to expose just how you feel, you people are ingrates and over the years have laughed at 9/11, laughing now about New Orleans, laugh everytime an American Soldier dies in Iraq.

You people are vermin.
We're not laughin at the victims, we're not laughing at america.
We're laughing at YOU, you personally.
You haven't pulled anyone along, you're the only one here showing hatered towards other countries..not the other way around.
Look at the garbage you write and ponder a moment who here has hate and loath against other countries, you, or the rest of us?
The answer is you.

How does it feel to live in a superior country?
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you didn't expose shit
never hide it
you can't grasp basic things, how are you supposed to stop us? You got the whole deal in your mind, but your problem is that beside you and couple more haven't realised it yet. Become the majority and you have something, till then we'll proceed to our plans.
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Yup I admit it...

I do not like alot of you foriegn webmasters.

Your bottom feeding maggots.
No dis illusionment there.

You type away on American systems, American software ( probably pirated ) and come to American boards and whine about getting everything for free.

Foriegn webmasters are responsible for countless cases of credit card theft, spam, virus's so on and so forth.

I do got alot of hate for you mongrels.

You are like whinning babies.

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Old 09-01-2005, 02:42 AM   #288
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Are you still alive? Aint finished yet with your sorry ass.
I will respond to you once.

You are an idiot.

Are you happy attention whore?
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Old 09-01-2005, 02:45 AM   #289
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???????

Do any of you per capita testa dura's even remember what you're arguing about now???? it now seems to be a pissing contest, only like most guys, you don't have enough sense NOT to piss into the wind and can't figure out why you're all wet...only one making any sense anymore is silvertab and he's yanking most of your chains to see who barks next or pisses into the wind 1st...LMAO...this is some funny shit......BTW...have any of you PER CAPITA PROPONENTS PERSONALLY CONTRIBUTED SOMETHING YET??? SEE ALL OF YOUR "I MAKE A LOT OF MONEY....." sigs after your name...so......STOP ARGUING AND CLICK HERE https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp
AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE...donated close to $10000 (cash. well check and non-perishables) and 12 hrs on phones yesterday...can you stop arguing long enough and match a fraction of that....hope so!!!
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:03 AM   #291
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Yup I admit it...

I do not like alot of you foriegn webmasters.

Your bottom feeding maggots.
No dis illusionment there.

You type away on American systems, American software ( probably pirated ) and come to American boards and whine about getting everything for free.

Foriegn webmasters are responsible for countless cases of credit card theft, spam, virus's so on and so forth.

I do got alot of hate for you mongrels.

You are like whinning babies.

You're pathetic Alien. Ya wanna know why you're filled with hate? Because you're the worthless bottom feeder and you know it. You're a low end, shit designer who can't even make a decent living anymore because people would rather outsource their design work to the third world than hire your talentless ass.

And you're calling us whining babies? That's absolutely fucking hilarious! Who's spent the last couple of days starting threads whining? That's right idiot - YOU! You are truly a sad, pathetic, washed up idiot with no future. And you can't even spell or construct sentences that make much sense. English isn't even TGF's first language and yet he has a better grasp of the English language than you do. Pathetic!

Put simply... you're a moron, a bottom feeder, a shitty designer and an ignorant tool. I bet you've never even been out of the USA. What you know about the rest of the world I could probably cram into a flea's arsehole.

Yes, that's right... we're laughing at you... and believe it when I tell you that we WILL get the last laugh. Loser. (At least I can spell the word you fuckstick!)
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Don't worry i'm Canadian and I'm booked..not taking any new clients LOL...(most of them are american clients mind you..)

I'm not against america i'm against stupid people like you...

oh and BTW seems like youre in a blind rage against any "foreigner scum" blabla..

don't forget about your other thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=510796...

Apparently you also feel let down by your own government..(the one you keep bragging about in this thread)

You must feel so alone and isolated LOL
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Old 09-01-2005, 03:11 AM   #294
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AHha Wonderful, I see now the searing hatred for America.

Poor little Monkey's...

Tis true, without the USA's Surfers and credit cards most of these ass fucks would be out of business. It Is American's that these foriegn low lifes target to buy there porn while conducting scams on Americans.

To boot Americans buy more porn per capita than any other nation in the world!

With A population of 260 Million people America is still not giving enough to the world because America is 260 Million compared to there dinky 5 Million or so that gives more per capita!

Per Capita is United Nations Bullshit to guilt trip Americans to sucker more money out of us.

Shut the fuck up haters.

We will rebuild New Orleans ourselves and save your sorry asses at the same time. When the reality is, America should just go back to itself and let the world blow itself up. Unfortunatly it is one god damn planet and what affects you affects us...
i love america and americans. (aside from the current administration) however the only reason the US is able to give so much is due to its population. i don't see why americans view that as a slap in the face. if america had a population like denmark or whatever of course each person would have to chip in more to keep up. america is what keeps the world economy going but it wouldn't be a world encomy without the rest of the world. we should all be hating on china (instead of each other) because they have a large population and don't give shit and still benefit from the economy.
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Many American webmasters are getting sick of your hate mongering and whinning about America.
Frankly maybe I am one of the first to just come out and say it.

Most of you are weak ingrateful scum bags that do not deserve the time of day.
Oh, the irony of that post!!
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hello we're not talking about Karl Markx here..but about an economist who did several papers on the subject we're argueing about now..
Well you're the one who introduced some other economist's opinion on the matter. The thing is, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Would you like to see an economist who "has written papers" that agrees with my point of view? I'm sure they exist. Go find one if you want. It wouldn't validate my point just because they happen to agree with me.

The reason I mentioned Karl Marx is that he had millions of little sheep like you believing in his every word about economics and guess what - he was wrong!

You haven't supported his arguement, you haven't addressed the flaws I mentioned in your theory, all you've done is found someone else to quote.
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Well you're the one who introduced some other economist's opinion on the matter. The thing is, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Would you like to see an economist who "has written papers" that agrees with my point of view? I'm sure they exist. Go find one if you want. It wouldn't validate my point just because they happen to agree with me.

The reason I mentioned Karl Marx is that he had millions of little sheep like you believing in his every word about economics and guess what - he was wrong!

You haven't supported his arguement, you haven't addressed the flaws I mentioned in your theory, all you've done is found someone else to quote.

sheep like myself? shut up man....wtf are you talking about...it's fucking common sense and I happen to have an actual economist to say the same...not a fucking philosopher writting some "ideas" about an utopia...

it's not like i'm the only one who says you're wrong in here in case you haven't noticed....
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Now should you consider population of the donors or not?
if you want to find out how much a country is giving per citizen on average...yes..

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Should you consider the other economic trends (recession, growth) of the donors or not?
No...not if you're doing a per capita statistic

if you're doing GDP however:

GDP = consumption + investment + exports - imports

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If you're not going by an absolute measure like total dollar value (or so you don't get hung up on that then some other absolute value such as quickness of delivery, etc) then you're trying to measure it in relative terms.
sure...the whole point here is to put it in relative terms so you can compare two countries with different population...

No we're not considering growth...nor recession... because...that's not the point...

The point here is to know how much countries give to charity PER CAPITA....which makes sense since it takes the population size into consideration..
OR expressing it as a % of their GDP..which takes the Gross Domestic Product into consideration...

now since the 2 arent base around the same variable (population VS. Gross Domestic Product), they won't yield the same results...however...USA still come up far from first in the two cases...

sure there are other variables to consider...

but these 2 ways at least try to take SOME variables into consideration...to compare 2 different countries...while you only take the total dollar ammount and don't consider a single variable...


Are you trying to render ALL stats based on GDP useless with your little arguement, for the simple facts that "there might be other variables to consider"??
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