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TheGoldenChild · 08-25-2005, 11:28 AM

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/secu...e_dept_na.html

How dumb can you be?
Repatriating money from offshore accounts while living in this country is ILLEGAL

Sending Non Can Spam Compliant emails- is Illegal.

Somehow most people in this business seem to think they are too smart for the government or anyone else-

Greed may have been good for Gordon Gecko- but it's killing spammers one by one.

Mr Pheer · 08-25-2005, 11:33 AM

stupid is, as stupid does

wdsguy · 08-25-2005, 11:36 AM

what site were they running?

beemk · 08-25-2005, 11:37 AM

were they anyone from here? 600k complaints from just them.... they must have been making some serious bank.

baddog · 08-25-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk

were they anyone from here? 600k complaints from just them....

Holy shit . . . one of them is for sure. Time to make a phone call.

beemk · 08-25-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Holy shit . . . one of them is for sure. Time to make a phone call.

spill it, this wouldnt be a genuine kb thread without some type of drama.

baddog · 08-25-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk

spill it, this wouldnt be a genuine kb thread without some type of drama.

I think I will notify them first . . . professional courtesy and all

sherie · 08-25-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Holy shit . . . one of them is for sure. Time to make a phone call.

Holy shit eh?!?!

Jimbo · 08-25-2005, 11:45 AM

damn my girlfriend got caught

Anthony · 08-25-2005, 11:45 AM

Unfucking real. Seeing ppl names you know.

beemk · 08-25-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I think I will notify them first . . . professional courtesy and all

i'm sure they know already.

Ice · 08-25-2005, 11:47 AM

check out some of the comments below the story...

I sell short ICQ UIN

Posted by: Retard | Aug 25, 2005 2:35:03 PM

see sig.
http://pibcash.com

Posted by: whore | Aug 25, 2005 2:22:05 PM

KB sells the best mailing lists. Ask Brad.

Posted by: SREBEL | Aug 25, 2005 2:09:12 PM

sherie · 08-25-2005, 11:49 AM

It's unfortunate that this has happened, but easy with the name calling and shit. Most people would have jumped to get at those people! And not a single one of you is innocent by any means and most have done shaddy shit!

OH and whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"...yeah...land of the free...whatever!

TheGoldenChild · 08-25-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by iceicebaby

check out some of the comments below the story...

I sell short ICQ UIN

Posted by: Retard | Aug 25, 2005 2:35:03 PM

see sig.
http://pibcash.com

Posted by: whore | Aug 25, 2005 2:22:05 PM

KB sells the best mailing lists. Ask Brad.

Posted by: SREBEL | Aug 25, 2005 2:09:12 PM

ahahaha
I haven't brokered a list in over two years-
but he is right, hen I had access and worked as a third party, all but one list I was involved with were gold...

That was pre Can Spam and when the Gold Rush was still booming.

3piece chicken Dinner · 08-25-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sherie

It's unfortunate that this has happened, but easy with the name calling and shit. Most people would have jumped to get at those people! And not a single one of you is innocent by any means and most have done shaddy shit!

I agree, fickle bunch indeed.

Start a thread and say...........

I can send 100 joins a day, need reliable sponsor who accepts mail traffic.

leave your icq and watch the damn thing blow up. And they wont give a FUCK if it's not compliant.

How many times has that thread title been posted and NEVER is the question where is the traffic coming from been asked???

It's a joke!

I don't like spam, hell I'm against opt in mail because it's so very rarley opt in, or the surfer who opted in will complain because he wanted free access to CEMags not mail in his inbox . But some will never learn...............

TetsuoIronMan · 08-25-2005, 11:56 AM

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hit me up for cheap bulletproof servers

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Anthony · 08-25-2005, 12:00 PM

Hold on, nothing in that article saying they are guilty.

We forget due process here?

Doc911 · 08-25-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Hold on, nothing in that article saying they are guilty.

We forget due process here?

please don't try and use logic at GFY

Dirty Dane · 08-25-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Hold on, nothing in that article saying they are guilty.

lol.. I think 600,000 complaints is no coincidence.

3piece chicken Dinner · 08-25-2005, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

lol.. I think 600,000 complaints is no coincidence.

He is right, It could all just be an elaborate misunderstanding. Because NOBODY is dumb enough to spam AOL. I wonder if the feds went to the sponsors with ref codes to find the " alleged" spammers??

baddog · 08-25-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Hold on, nothing in that article saying they are guilty.

We forget due process here?

Well, one person on the list was only an employee . . . doesn't mean that they are not going to be in a world of hurt going thru the legal process.

BlackCrayon · 08-25-2005, 12:15 PM

they should of lived in canada. can spam was made to bring mail profits back to the big corps...

xclusive · 08-25-2005, 12:16 PM

poor fuckers but if you fuck with mail in the US these days they are going to fuck you and fuck you hard.

TheGoldenChild · 08-25-2005, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Well, one person on the list was only an employee . . . doesn't mean that they are not going to be in a world of hurt going thru the legal process.

BINGO what most people don't understand is that the Govt can turn your life upside down and cost you millions of dollars in legal fees only to find you are innocent- and never even say I am sorry or reimburse your expenses for legal bills

Don't believe me ask Mike Jones in Illinois how his deal went down with the FEDS that raided him.

khs · 08-25-2005, 12:17 PM

nice comments on that article...

SmokeyTheBear · 08-25-2005, 12:25 PM

heh you got *******'d

sherie · 08-25-2005, 12:27 PM

Not that it matters to some of you, but this is a comment that was posted on the blog from a 'Matt' - "funny. i called the DoJ about this. They say NO indictments are immenent." Not sure if you can just call up the DoJ to find things like this out...but if it's true then...

Dirty Dane · 08-25-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by khs

nice comments on that article...

Yeah... looks like a GFY mirror

Crypt · 08-25-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

heh you got *******'d

Yeah , got removed in like 1 min hehe

Pipecrew · 08-25-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kBizzle

BINGO what most people don't understand is that the Govt can turn your life upside down and cost you millions of dollars in legal fees only to find you are innocent- and never even say I am sorry or reimburse your expenses for legal bills

Don't believe me ask Mike Jones in Illinois how his deal went down with the FEDS that raided him.

Guilty Till Proven Innocent, Might as well pay the fines and save millions in legal bullshit fighting someone you cant beat.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-25-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crypt

Yeah , got removed in like 1 min hehe

lets see how fast they can remove everyone

Make a new html document on your desktop..

Paste this into it.

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The washington post sucks.
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then open it and you can add images to your links , and url's

SmokeyTheBear · 08-25-2005, 12:39 PM

where it says hahahaha it should be POST

BradShaw · 08-25-2005, 12:46 PM

KB lists are gold.

cjaccardi · 08-25-2005, 01:03 PM

why are they stupid ... Haliburton does it they have a offshore mailing address in the Caymans

Brujah · 08-25-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sherie

It's unfortunate that this has happened, but easy with the name calling and shit. Most people would have jumped to get at those people! And not a single one of you is innocent by any means and most have done shaddy shit!

OH and whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"...yeah...land of the free...whatever!

Ohhh... sherie's got some skeletons.. doing some bad stuff..

PussyTeenies · 08-25-2005, 01:09 PM

ahh well. .stupid is as stupid does.. indeed i know MrPheer said it.. but it was desperatly needed to say it again

sherie · 08-25-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Ohhh... sherie's got some skeletons.. doing some bad stuff..

Hahaha - where you been - hit me up when you have some time :P

Doctor Dre · 08-25-2005, 01:25 PM

People did that for ever ... since I'm in the business ... I've seen all kind of shady shit ... getting busted every month . nothing new...

The one that stayed on the good side are still here and making more money (long term) then the ones going for the quick buck

davidd · 08-25-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kBizzle

BINGO what most people don't understand is that the Govt can turn your life upside down and cost you millions of dollars in legal fees only to find you are innocent- and never even say I am sorry or reimburse your expenses for legal bills

This is a broad statement, that is technically incorrect. Describe the scenarios you are referring to.

When you are the target of a Federal Investigation, and then indicted, if you are victorious in the court proceedings you are reimbursed legal fees and expenses. Federal Level on criminal prosecutions is 100% loser pays, the way it should be. It is capped at $7mil and determined by the judge, but you usually come out ahead.

It is part of the Hyde Amendment, check it out.

Player, you should know this.

As an aside, I would rather go up against the Federal Government than any Local or State government. There are rules on the Federal Level, States take it to street level antics.

jonesy · 08-25-2005, 01:40 PM

the last line says it all and thats what the feds were really going after -

" The indictments also are expected to charge the defendants with money laundering."

Brujah · 08-25-2005, 01:42 PM

poor Jenn :/

jonesy · 08-25-2005, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidd

This is a broad statement, that is technically incorrect. Describe the scenarios you are referring to.

When you are the target of a Federal Investigation, and then indicted, if you are victorious in the court proceedings you are reimbursed legal fees and expenses. Federal Level on criminal prosecutions is 100% loser pays, the way it should be. It is capped at $7mil and determined by the judge, but you usually come out ahead.

It is part of the Hyde Amendment, check it out.

Player, you should know this.
.

read between the lines - think about the costs to retain a lawyer on the level thats being spoken about here. any lawyer on that level sure as fuck isnt going to represent you if you dont have the money unless the lawyer knows they can find you not guilty and even then, most say fuck you if you dont have the cash - the average person doesnt have that kind of money and is left with most times a subpar attorney and they lose your case. dont see too many people with serious money going to jail.

you get what you pay for.

add to that the stress thats invloved with just dealing with the situation and its effect on family friends work ect sure as fuck turns your world upside down.

Peaches · 08-25-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

read between the lines - think about the costs to retain a lawyer on the level thats being spoken about here. any lawyer on that level sure as fuck isnt going to represent you if you dont have the money unless the lawyer knows they can find you not guilty and even then, most say fuck you if you dont have the cash - the average person doesnt have that kind of money and is left with most times a subpar attorney and they lose your case. dont see too many people with serious money going to jail.

you get what you pay for.

add to that the stress thats invloved with just dealing with the situation and its effect on family friends work ect sure as fuck turns your world upside down.

We're not really talking about "the average person" here. These people have made millions over the years. I worked for a guy who ran about 2 scams a year. Every time they fined him he just laughed - he'd make $1mil and they'd fine him $100K. Cost of doing buisness, in his opinion. High legal fees were included in his business plans.

Granted, he ended up serving 4.5 years in Club Fed, but he also banked around $54mil for that one scam alone (money which the feds haven't been about to touch, even though they've tried

).

VeriSexy · 08-25-2005, 02:07 PM

People are pretty crazy to be spamming porn right now

KRL · 08-25-2005, 02:10 PM

Some people like walking on fire. Crazy risktaking is a thrill to those kinds.

hydro · 08-25-2005, 02:13 PM

They aren't going to jail or anything. All the goverment wants is money. I settled for $50k last year when ms came after me and i was mailing 50 mil hotmail/msn addys a day with porn and penis pills

jonesy · 08-25-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

We're not really talking about "the average person" here. .

i was. those who are just employees, upper mgmnt ect who are also indicted ....

Peaches · 08-25-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

i was. those who are just employees, upper mgmnt ect who are also indicted ....

The guy I was talking about before covered all legal defenses for employees who got caught up in something due to his actions. However, rarely was it a large amount as he would exonerate them immediately if they were innocent.

Then again, if you're an employee and you're NOT innocent, then you're going to pay some legal bills. And rightly so.

jonesy · 08-25-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

The guy I was talking about before covered all legal defenses for employees who got caught up in something due to his actions.

Then again, if you're an employee and you're NOT innocent, then you're going to pay some legal bills. And rightly so.

Nice guy and that very rarely happens.

bottom line when the feds are investigating/indicting/charge you with something its not a great feeling nor one to go through.

Peaches · 08-25-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

Nice guy and that very rarely happens.

bottom line when the feds are investigating/indicting/charge you with something its not a great feeling nor one to go through.

Yes, I know - I was one of the ones going through it

When the FBI and IRS call and schedule meetings at your house, it gets a little scary. And that was just the tip of the iceberg.

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