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	I Am not a Huge poster for GTS but any of you who know me you Know i Go above and Beyond for you and am an all around easy going person. But We came across this Company Which no one should ever Deal With. I Will give you The Background Story So you know there is a good Reason. Basically I Sold the People of http://www.thaigirltia.com/ a Banner on one of our Sites We sell for. the Results Were less then what i would have imagined at the time. SO i offered to credit her for that time and Move her to a more Productive Site. SO after I do that and Move her over to this Site She wasn;t Getting the Sales. Hey Not all campaigns Work out. We all Know that. Especially With a Niche Like Thai Girls it is more select. So What Does She Do. She Tries to Charge Us back. That is By Far Rediculous. It says Right in our Desclaimer We do not guarentee Sales. So if You Value You Merchant Accounts Stay Away from Selling for this Company. You Give them the World and They Slap you in the face. Thanks guys. If you need more details or anything i am on icq 4788527 i can give more info on them but just wanted to give the heads up Dev  | 
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		 Bump for GTS. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I HATE people who charge back in this biz. This bitch deserves to be blacklisted by everyone. 
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		 Wow, that's a bunch of crap if I ever heard it.  I know you've done a great job for me in the past and I plan on working more with you guys in the very near future.  Shame people are such crooks like that.  Chargebacks suck for merchants, big time. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I just looked at the site and now I know why she can't get any sales. That design worked in 1998 but not today. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I am surprised she sold any memberships. 
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		 it's really amazing that ppl think in some way they gonna have tons of easy sales by purchasing a spot. it's a hard work to convert and you have to analyze traffic and optimize every step of your promotion in order to make good results. gts sell traffic, not sign ups. it's pretty clear. i know devin and how hard he work to satisfy his custommers. it happend to me to have bad sales on spots and this guy always tried his best to make the things happend and help his custommers. if webmasters start to charge back for that kind of reason (bad decision on their side) it's a very bad way to have a good name in this business. it's a small world after all ;-) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 mmmmm thai pussy....   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			i wish i knew where to find some of that around here 
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		 bump, i hate scammers 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 I been dealing with one all morning..BL list is updated. Bumb for my man Dev! 
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		 Wow, I'm not experiance in the thai niche.. but I wouldn't think that site would sell at all! Like Brad said maybe years ago.. Looks like you tried your hardest man. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 what a bitch..  Definitely needs to be black listed 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	Devin is one of the nicest guys that will do anything for anyone...she took advantage of him and even tried to screw him and GTS over by bad mouthing to visa. She obvioulsy knows how strict credit card companies are already and she went straight to them instead of addressing this appropiately. No need for people like her at all.... Way to go Dev..you did the right thing  | 
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			Kudos to GTS for trying to help her out after the first spot they gave her didn't work for her site that well. Excellent customer service in action! It's just a shame she turned around and spat on you. I hope things work out! 
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		 Honestly, I would consider not selling spots to sites that are that poorly designed. It really had little chance of success.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 There are always bad apples. SUx to hear that man. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 That's lame. You're gaurenteed traffic when you buy an ad spot, not the sales. It's like buying gas at a gas station and getting bad gas mileage becuase you have an old car so you charge back for the gas. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Dev rocks and that's just from initial conversations. The chargeback is an evil tool that consumers have when buyers remorse kicks in.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Fuck that, I dont always have luck on my paid spots, I don't charge back! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 If I could get my money back on every bad ad I would have an unlimited ad budget 
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			 The worst thing about this, is that she didn't even contact us for a refund!  We will galdly work with clients that aren't having a good campaing... but don't just go and chargeback without contacting us first.  Not a good way to do business. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Who charges back just because it didn't go their way. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Way to stick it to them Dev, that's unscrupulous that they went behind your back and charged back. 
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		 you should have seen the amount of charge backs i got when the new 2257 went up and people went out of business..... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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