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Old 02-13-2002, 11:04 AM   #1
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In light of IBill's problems........

Since Ibill has been having so many problems lately we are going to move to a new processor.

Which ones have you moved too and how did it affect your conversions?
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Old 02-13-2002, 11:08 AM   #2
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Jettis kicks ass.

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Old 02-13-2002, 11:11 AM   #3
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ccbill was no problem.. one call and an hour later it was done.
My resellers had zero complaints about the switch, 5% reserves and weekly payouts are nice too.
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Old 02-13-2002, 11:11 AM   #4
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Since Ibill has been having so many problems lately we are going to move to a new processor.

Which ones have you moved too and how did it affect your conversions?
Try Jettis, big players like ARS recently made Jettis their primary processor.
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Old 02-13-2002, 11:12 AM   #5
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Isnt Jettis owned by Maxcash ??
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Old 02-13-2002, 11:24 AM   #6
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Thats JetBill I think... :D

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Old 02-13-2002, 11:57 AM   #7
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... I am looking for a processor that forces me to use a $50 tax deduction donation ... are there any, thanks for helping !!
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:10 PM   #8
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Don't forget -- WebsiteBilling.com offers 5% holdback and weekly payouts.... not to mention free direct deposit to your US bank account.

We're also ready to be your complete processing solution, by offering credit card, check, & 900 payment options.
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:15 PM   #9
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We have Used CCBill, for close to 3 yrs, havent had any problems at all.
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:17 PM   #10
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Since Ibill has been having so many problems lately we are going to move to a new processor.

Which ones have you moved too and how did it affect your conversions?
Jettis is IT:
http://www.jettis.com/promo.shtml?CL....com/msgboard/
and here is the testimony from the trenches:

Hey Serge aka shavingguru, I couldn't agree with you more about processors. One of my sponsers just added the option to use jettis instead of iBill. I switched yesterday and my signups tripled. Coincidence? Hmmmmmm.....


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Old 02-13-2002, 12:36 PM   #11
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Jettis is IT:
http://www.jettis.com/promo.shtml?CL.../msgboard/</a>
and here is the testimony from the trenches:

Hey Oprano,

You know the ropes and have been around a while. You see everyone says this one or that one is the best, but the webmasters are always left wondering. Many sites have differnet needs.

Would you be interested in doing a kind of, test of the 5 or 10 major billers. Like a demo or a pros/cons competition of some kind.

We could include categories like tech help, transaction speeds, payouts, affilite programs and such. I know it would be a bit of an undertaking but im sure the webmasters would appreciate it. We could get somefeedback from the webmasters as to what categories they feel are important or would like to include.

People would greatly respect your opinion as well as lensmans.

Crash the Party - Third Party Billers put to the test
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:45 PM   #12
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Hey Oprano,

You know the ropes and have been around a while. You see everyone says this one or that one is the best, but the webmasters are always left wondering. Many sites have differnet needs.

Would you be interested in doing a kind of, test of the 5 or 10 major billers. Like a demo or a pros/cons competition of some kind.

We could include categories like tech help, transaction speeds, payouts, affilite programs and such. I know it would be a bit of an undertaking but im sure the webmasters would appreciate it. We could get somefeedback from the webmasters as to what categories they feel are important or would like to include.

People would greatly respect your opinion as well as lensmans.

Crash the Party - Third Party Billers put to the test
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Oprano and I'm sure GFY,
as 2 leading webmaster resources,
will be delighted to put the test along the lines you suggested

We have sponsors who trade a few millions clicks a day and they be more than delighted to put this traffic to the test.

drop me e-mail at
[email protected] so we could talk about particulars,
we are VERY interested and let chips fall where they fall.
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:47 PM   #13
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We'd be more than willing to do that test, Maximus -- on one basic condition.

None of the processors knows who is involved in doing the actual testing. That way there can't be any special treatment for any of the participants, from any processor. Knowing who it was doing the test might give someone the inclination to do things differently than a normal guy would get treated.


Obviously people can test without anyone agreeing to it, that's not the issue, I just want to make it fair for all parties involved as to the results.

Personally I'd also like a copy of the detailed findings, since no matter how good we are, there are always places we could be better.
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:51 PM   #14
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Hey Kimmy,

Yes I agree . None of us can be in the judging or be in cohoots with the judges. We would all like an impartial look at our systems.

This will help us all, webmasters and billers. Those of us, like yourself, that care will implement needed changes they may not have addressed previously. This could be really useful for all.
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:52 PM   #15
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We'd be more than willing to do that test, Maximus -- on one basic condition.

None of the processors knows who is involved in doing the actual testing. That way there can't be any special treatment for any of the participants, from any processor. Knowing who it was doing the test might give someone the inclination to do things differently than a normal guy would get treated.


Obviously people can test without anyone agreeing to it, that's not the issue, I just want to make it fair for all parties involved as to the results.

Personally I'd also like a copy of the detailed findings, since no matter how good we are, there are always places we could be better.
yeap, I agree, KK, NO ADVANCE WARNINGS!
and I think I even know how to do it,
wait 'till "billybob" opens his site and start changing processors
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:56 PM   #16
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ROFL Serge, how bout making sure that 'Billybob' has a real site and can do enough sales to actually be able to tell what's going on?

You might also want to let "Billybob" know that testing for long enough is also a key.
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Old 02-13-2002, 12:59 PM   #17
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Hey Serge,

I just started another thread Crash the Party - that hopefully webmasters will input their needs and what they may want reviewed.

I think the list of aggregators and billers should include

CCbill
Ibill
Jettis
Epoch
Globill
Msbill
Websitebilling

forgive me i know im forgetting a couple off the top of my head
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Old 02-13-2002, 01:03 PM   #18
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Hey Serge,

I just started another thread Crash the Party - that hopefully webmasters will input their needs and what they may want reviewed.

I think the list of aggregators and billers should include

CCbill
Ibill
Jettis
Epoch
Globill
Msbill
Websitebilling

forgive me i know im forgetting a couple off the top of my head
works for me,
let me talk to paysite owners who is willing to do the actual testing
and I'll tell you what is on tomorrow
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Old 02-13-2002, 01:06 PM   #19
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Thats great serge. This could get interesting
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Old 02-13-2002, 01:08 PM   #20
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Old 02-13-2002, 01:20 PM   #21
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test netbilling too for me
thats who i run my merchant account through
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Old 02-13-2002, 01:36 PM   #22
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test netbilling too for me
thats who i run my merchant account through
Hey mr brian,

Netbilling doesnt do third party billing.

Im sure if this works out im sure we will do a second event considering those who process gateway transactions.
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Old 02-13-2002, 03:03 PM   #23
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Has anyone seen an increase in signups after moving off of Ibill?
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Old 02-13-2002, 03:24 PM   #24
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How bad are the issues with IBILL ? Are there issues long term or short term and do you guys think they are going out of under... ?

thanks shiznit
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Old 02-13-2002, 04:10 PM   #25
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You can't go wrong with CCBill.... they are petty much the shit\
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Old 02-13-2002, 04:48 PM   #26
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Has anyone seen an increase in signups after moving off of Ibill?
Well, I can now SEE my signups which is always plus.
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Old 02-13-2002, 04:50 PM   #27
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Old 02-13-2002, 05:37 PM   #28
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Its easy guys use GLOBILL = more signups see sig
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