Panchodog..... WTF? - GoFuckYourself.com

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 07:53 AM

0:3353

Even with 75% TGP and 25% SE traffic, surely your cute little sweethearts can do better than this? and these are uniques?

And why when I send in a support ticket asking that it be checked for errors, I get no return?

Surely something is wrong. I could stand outside the supermarket with a cardboard sign saying AndiPink.com and convert better than this.

lagwagon · 08-18-2005, 07:55 AM

would you be naked behind the sign?

jimthefiend · 08-18-2005, 07:57 AM

ouch
thats shitty

cherrylula · 08-18-2005, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagwagon

would you be naked behind the sign?

only when he's pushing twink stuff.

Thurbs · 08-18-2005, 07:58 AM

meh .. I do 1:250 on tgp traffic when I throw an Andi Pink out.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 07:59 AM

The only sponsor I ever did this bad on was sunnydollars and that was mostly topsite traffic so go figure.

The thing with panchodog is that I used their gallery designs and got listed on TGP's that I almost always walk away with 2-3 sales.

and the no response. that hurt a bit.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverCash Thurbs

meh .. I do 1:250 on tgp traffic when I throw an Andi Pink out.

That is what I was expecting really... much to my dismay.

FilthyRob · 08-18-2005, 08:00 AM

sounds like a few other programs for me right now

GUNNER · 08-18-2005, 08:02 AM

Panchodog is top notch, and I'm sure there's an explanation. I would advise contacting them in person first to figure out what is/isn't happening.

They've got spots on my exit consoles and my ratios are pretty nice.

mikeyddddd · 08-18-2005, 08:03 AM

I just noticed an anomaly in their stats this week. I'm wondering if they didn't start counting hosted galleries as raws starting around the first.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUNNER

Panchodog is top notch, and I'm sure there's an explanation. I would advise contacting them in person first to figure out what is/isn't happening.

They've got spots on my exit consoles and my ratios are pretty nice.

I will do that now... I will send a shortcut to this thread via email and ICQ, I am curious WTF? Surely something is not right. Even shitty ass traffic can convert 1:3353 not 0:3353

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:08 AM

Nevermind. The only form of contact on the website is thru trouble ticket, which proved inneffective once already.

Now what?

Manowar · 08-18-2005, 08:09 AM

talking of ratios, my bangbrosonline ratios have dropped big time recently , same for anyone else?

GUNNER · 08-18-2005, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous

Nevermind. The only form of contact on the website is thru trouble ticket, which proved inneffective once already.

Now what?

Izzy
Affiliate Manager
ICQ: 244185772
Email: support.at.panchodog.com

Rico
ICQ: 144735794
Skype: panchodog

cherrylula · 08-18-2005, 08:13 AM

its August, people are hustling back to school and ending vacations.

Some of you people need to learn more economics.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

its August, people are hustling back to school and ending vacations.

Some of you people need to learn more economics.

sorry... but I have NEVER converted this low. Not even on my worst day with my worst traffic going to my worst sponsor.

Let alone Andi Pink. She is HOT!

AmateurFlix · 08-18-2005, 08:19 AM

I think I've been getting about 1:700 from panchodog lately.

Last time I sent a trouble ticket it took them a few days to respond.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:26 AM

I was sad at 0:1000 then again at 0:1500 but 0:3000+ in 2 weeks....

Phenominal.

wedouglas · 08-18-2005, 08:31 AM

Where is the traffic from?

Rico · 08-18-2005, 08:32 AM

Hi,

We would be happy to help you via ICQ, email, phone, skype or msn. Posting on the boards is not the easiest way to get a hold of us.

I am sure there is an explanation and a reason behind those ratios and working together we'll find it and correct it.

Izzy has you on ICQ now

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:33 AM

Mostly Persian Kitty TGP and Richard's Realm TGP... and I get several SE hits from keyphrases targeted directly to Panchodog sites. And a pinch of clicked traffic.

Rico · 08-18-2005, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

I think I've been getting about 1:700 from panchodog lately.

Last time I sent a trouble ticket it took them a few days to respond.

That must have been because of the weekend or holiday. It rarely takes more than 24 hours for us to respond, and of course MUCH quicker, via ICQ, MSN, or PHONE.

Antonio · 08-18-2005, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous

sorry... but I have NEVER converted this low. Not even on my worst day with my worst traffic going to my worst sponsor.

Let alone Andi Pink. She is HOT!

I've seen some horrible stats this month too, programs that I'm doing 1:400 went to 0:6000

I'm also shocked that you did 0:3000 with sunnydollars, they're prob the only sponsors that is consistant throughout the year, and I'm at 1:250 with them on average

of course I only pronote 2-3 of their sites so i guess it depends on wich site you promote

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico-panchodog

Hi,

We would be happy to help you via ICQ, email, phone, skype or msn. Posting on the boards is not the easiest way to get a hold of us.

I am sure there is an explanation and a reason behind those ratios and working together we'll find it and correct it.

Izzy has you on ICQ now

Please put your contact info on your site within the affiliate section under "contact" this is where I went first which went unanswered until now... just for the record.

wedouglas · 08-18-2005, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous

Mostly Persian Kitty TGP and Richard's Realm TGP... and I get several SE hits from keyphrases targeted directly to Panchodog sites. And a pinch of clicked traffic.

IMO RR sucks. Persian Kitty is decent. I have around 600 SE hits from term "andipink"

Keep in mind SE traffic for single girls suck. All freeloaders looking for free pics.

SleazyDream · 08-18-2005, 08:37 AM

i love it when an idiot posts proof that his traffic sucks

Rico · 08-18-2005, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous

Mostly Persian Kitty TGP and Richard's Realm TGP... and I get several SE hits from keyphrases targeted directly to Panchodog sites. And a pinch of clicked traffic.

Not to dish Persian, but we have seen that their traffic does not do the best with our sites. We are looking into that as it really does not make sense but I know we are not the only program to get odd ratios from certain types of traffic.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

I've seen some horrible stats this month too, programs that I'm doing 1:400 went to 0:6000

I'm also shocked that you did 0:3000 with sunnydollars, they're prob the only sponsors that is consistant throughout the year, and I'm at 1:250 with them on average

of course I only pronote 2-3 of their sites so i guess it depends on wich site you promote

I was doing great with them, they were at one time my best sponsor... then suddenly the ratios went to shit.

I contacted webgurl and we went through a series of link changes and still to this dat I get shit... of course 99% of those links have been dropped since.

Rinaldo · 08-18-2005, 08:40 AM

You really should contact someone there. I'm converting sub 1/390 this month and I have 404 traffic hitting her site.
If you or anyone ever has a problem contacting a specific rep at a program contact me, Phoenix, or another program rep, most of us can either direct you in the right direction to get your answers, or atleast take a look at your site and tell you what you're doing wrong.

Rico is a solid guy I'm sure he'll take care of you.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i love it when an idiot posts proof that his traffic sucks

My traffic don't suck, it just don't like these sites, I do fairly well with other programs. I been submitting lots of panchodog stuff lately.

killerkay · 08-18-2005, 08:42 AM

that sucks, U oughta go with RageCash

Michael O · 08-18-2005, 08:43 AM

I've done pretty good with panchodog sites.

One thing I don't understand is the use of divx movies on the tours, why scare potentional sales away cause they can watch the movies?

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rinaldo

You really should contact someone there. I'm converting sub 1/390 this month and I have 404 traffic hitting her site.
If you or anyone ever has a problem contacting a specific rep at a program contact me, Phoenix, or another program rep, most of us can either direct you in the right direction to get your answers, or atleast take a look at your site and tell you what you're doing wrong.

Rico is a solid guy I'm sure he'll take care of you.

hehe... Izzy is on the case... is that a good thing?

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkay

that sucks, U oughta go with RageCash

Already an affiliate, but thanx for the off*SPAM*er. We will see how well they do.

SleazyDream · 08-18-2005, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous

My traffic don't suck, it just don't like these sites, I do fairly well with other programs. I been submitting lots of panchodog stuff lately.

if it doesn't suck how come others can convert panhodog?

obviously it sucks - you just posted proof.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

if it doesn't suck how come others can convert panhodog?

obviously it sucks - you just posted proof.

I'll assume you know something and not even consider your low post count haha.

Shooting_Manic · 08-18-2005, 08:55 AM

Panchogod is one of hte best teen sponsors out there. I just looked at my stats over 2 years and Im still under 1:400. Clearly your traffic sucks ass. If you cant convert them then you need a lesson on teen traffic.

You started a thread saying "sponsors that will go out of their way for their affiliates".

How about, "affiliates that will go out of their way for their sponsors"? I mean Panchodog provides great tools (far more then most) great support and their sites convert... all you have done is talk shit on a and only sent 3000 plus clicks. haha

Bout time sponsors started canceling accounts of clueless webmasters.

Post your traffic sources I doubt you will. Just another shit talker.

cherrylula · 08-18-2005, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Panchogod is one of hte best teen sponsors out there. I just looked at my stats over 2 years and Im still under 1:400. Clearly your traffic sucks ass. If you cant convert them then you need a lesson on teen traffic.

You started a thread saying "sponsors that will go out of their way for their affiliates".

How about, "affiliates that will go out of their way for their sponsors"? I mean Panchodog provides great tools (far more then most) great support and their sites convert... all you have done is talk shit on a and only sent 3000 plus clicks. haha

Bout time sponsors started canceling accounts of clueless webmasters.

Post your traffic sources I doubt you will. Just another shit talker.

great reply

Rico · 08-18-2005, 09:06 AM

Before everyone begins fighting in this thread, we are taking care of the issue.

Whenever ANY affiliate has a problem, we do our BEST to figure it out and help in any way we can.

Sometimes, (VERY SELDOM happens) there is nothing we can do.

Most of the time, there IS something we can do

So, let's see what happens guys, we're on it. No more bashing, noone benifits from that ;)

We appreciate everyone's loyalty, however, I'd rather not see anyone get beaten up in any thread regarding our program.

-----

Regarding the DIV X codec - we are working on alternate video codecs and versions, which should be released very soon. It all takes time ;)

SleazyDream · 08-18-2005, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murderous

I'll assume you know something and not even consider your low post count haha.

yep - i know panchodog is a solid and good program - i know a LOT of people that use it and do well with it so for you to say it doesn't convert means your traffic sucks cause i know a LOT of places where it does convert.

simple as that.

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico-panchodog

Before everyone begins fighting in this thread, we are taking care of the issue.

Whenever ANY affiliate has a problem, we do our BEST to figure it out and help in any way we can.

Sometimes, (VERY SELDOM happens) there is nothing we can do.

Most of the time, there IS something we can do

So, let's see what happens guys, we're on it. No more bashing, noone benifits from that ;)

We appreciate everyone's loyalty, however, I'd rather not see anyone get beaten up in any thread regarding our program.

-----

Regarding the DIV X codec - we are working on alternate video codecs and versions, which should be released very soon. It all takes time ;)

Thanx, such a nice way to handle this

Fletch XXX · 08-18-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

yep - i know panchodog is a solid and good program - i know a LOT of people that use it and do well with it so for you to say it doesn't convert means your traffic sucks cause i know a LOT of places where it does convert.

simple as that.

Panchodog is Fletchdog approved.

Rico · 08-18-2005, 09:40 AM

A few reasons WHY ratios COULD have bad moments:

1. Processors. At present, processors MUST scrub harder to prevent their 'clients' from being subject to fraud on many

different levels. This effects ratios of course, the days of scrub free sales are OVER. Ratios WILL be affected by this.

PanchoDog is working on this situation, hoping to target certain countries and monitor scrubbing, so in the very near

future, we can control this, allowing less declines and better ratios. At present, it will behave eradicly, as I am sure it

does with every other program out there.

2. Foreign traffic. There has been a huge flood of foreign traffic in the internet, within the last year, which is steadily

growing, mainly due to many countries recently offering broadband services that were not available before to:

- non credit card users with no REAL method of payment through the existing processors we use.

- credit card users that are blocked by existing processors who scrub too hard or ban those countries.

In addition, freesites, TGP's, etc are purchasing cheap foreign traffic to boost their trades. Clicks are not what they used

to be, and we're sure everyone can vouch for that. Not accusing any particular TGP's or freesites, but we KNOW it

happens.

3. Promotion. How are you promoting our sites? This is really important. Many hardcore TGP's will try to sell our sofcore

sites as hardcore sites, or simply put, hardcore traffic will convert MUCH worse towards softcore and nonnude sites, than

the reverse.

Also, saying things like " See Kristina take it up the ass" when she does nothing even remotely similar, will not work well

either.

There are many other things behind this as well, which we can help our affiliates with, if they contact us, and give us the

opportunity to analyze the situation and help correct, improve, or change things around, to better the outcome.

We would suggest that affiliates contact us, when clicks are in the 1500 range, as it is NOT normal to NOT get a sale

before then.

Our average, even with a few odd cases such as yourself, is 1:290 - which is quite good, considering.

Remember, hit us up anytime, with questions, comments, or the like.

Rico

Murderous · 08-18-2005, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

yep - i know panchodog is a solid and good program - i know a LOT of people that use it and do well with it so for you to say it doesn't convert means your traffic sucks cause i know a LOT of places where it does convert.

simple as that.

Perhaps you are right... that is what we came here to figure out

Rinaldo · 08-18-2005, 09:46 AM

Rico you're awesome, nice way to keep the peace

Rui · 08-18-2005, 10:11 AM

Sorry to tell you this but its not PachoDog fault...

chase · 08-18-2005, 10:45 AM

Panchopeeps are a class act.

AmateurFlix · 08-18-2005, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico-panchodog

That must have been because of the weekend or holiday. It rarely takes more than 24 hours for us to respond, and of course MUCH quicker, via ICQ, MSN, or PHONE.

In fairness to your company, I think that was over a weekend, and the question wasn't anything of an urgent nature.

scruby · 08-18-2005, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Panchogod is one of hte best teen sponsors out there. I just looked at my stats over 2 years and Im still under 1:400. Clearly your traffic sucks ass. If you cant convert them then you need a lesson on teen traffic.

You started a thread saying "sponsors that will go out of their way for their affiliates".

How about, "affiliates that will go out of their way for their sponsors"? I mean Panchodog provides great tools (far more then most) great support and their sites convert... all you have done is talk shit on a and only sent 3000 plus clicks. haha

Bout time sponsors started canceling accounts of clueless webmasters.

Post your traffic sources I doubt you will. Just another shit talker.

Best foot fetish sponsor in the world, bar none.

GotGauge · 08-18-2005, 01:19 PM

My conversions have been very good with panchodog!
When these threads come up, I always look at see if anyhting has changed.
As you can see from my list they are one of the TOP Sponosrs this month.
http://www.tophotlist.com/webmaster/

But I did notice that for the last 5 days things have not done so well...

But my overal average is still posted above...

08-18-2005, 07:53 AM	#1
Murderous Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,938	Panchodog..... WTF? 0:3353 Even with 75% TGP and 25% SE traffic, surely your cute little sweethearts can do better than this? and these are uniques? And why when I send in a support ticket asking that it be checked for errors, I get no return? Surely something is wrong. I could stand outside the supermarket with a cardboard sign saying AndiPink.com and convert better than this.

08-18-2005, 07:55 AM	#2
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08-18-2005, 08:00 AM	#8
FilthyRob Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Anaheim - CA Posts: 6,741	sounds like a few other programs for me right now __________________ AKA - Clubsexy

08-18-2005, 08:02 AM	#9
GUNNER Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,098	Panchodog is top notch, and I'm sure there's an explanation. I would advise contacting them in person first to figure out what is/isn't happening. They've got spots on my exit consoles and my ratios are pretty nice. __________________ gunner @tutamail.com 25 years in the jizz biz

08-18-2005, 08:03 AM	#10
mikeyddddd Viva la vulva! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself Posts: 16,557	I just noticed an anomaly in their stats this week. I'm wondering if they didn't start counting hosted galleries as raws starting around the first. __________________ AdultStarProfits AmbyaCash AnilosCash AzianiGold ColdHardCash FlashTheMoney IdolBucks MediumPimpin NSCash Nubiles PussyCash ScoreCash Sextronix SpunkyCash TubeTitans Twistys Last edited by mikeyddddd; 08-18-2005 at 08:05 AM..

08-18-2005, 07:57 AM	#3
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	ouch thats shitty

08-18-2005, 07:58 AM	#5
Thurbs The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island Posts: 4,785	meh .. I do 1:250 on tgp traffic when I throw an Andi Pink out.

08-18-2005, 07:59 AM	#6
Murderous Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,938	The only sponsor I ever did this bad on was sunnydollars and that was mostly topsite traffic so go figure. The thing with panchodog is that I used their gallery designs and got listed on TGP's that I almost always walk away with 2-3 sales. and the no response. that hurt a bit.

08-18-2005, 08:08 AM	#12
Murderous Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,938	Nevermind. The only form of contact on the website is thru trouble ticket, which proved inneffective once already. Now what?

08-18-2005, 08:09 AM	#13
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	talking of ratios, my bangbrosonline ratios have dropped big time recently , same for anyone else?

08-18-2005, 08:13 AM	#15
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	its August, people are hustling back to school and ending vacations. Some of you people need to learn more economics.

08-18-2005, 08:19 AM	#17
AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	I think I've been getting about 1:700 from panchodog lately. Last time I sent a trouble ticket it took them a few days to respond. __________________

08-18-2005, 08:26 AM	#18
Murderous Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,938	I was sad at 0:1000 then again at 0:1500 but 0:3000+ in 2 weeks.... Phenominal.

08-18-2005, 08:31 AM	#19
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	Where is the traffic from?

08-18-2005, 08:32 AM	#20
Rico Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: mexico Posts: 1,271	Hi, We would be happy to help you via ICQ, email, phone, skype or msn. Posting on the boards is not the easiest way to get a hold of us. I am sure there is an explanation and a reason behind those ratios and working together we'll find it and correct it. Izzy has you on ICQ now __________________ °°panchodog.com°° °°100+ paysites!!°° °°katiefey°°°felicityfey°° °°kristinafey°°°& Andi Pink!°°

08-18-2005, 08:33 AM	#21
Murderous Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,938	Mostly Persian Kitty TGP and Richard's Realm TGP... and I get several SE hits from keyphrases targeted directly to Panchodog sites. And a pinch of clicked traffic.

08-18-2005, 08:37 AM	#26
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i love it when an idiot posts proof that his traffic sucks __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

08-18-2005, 08:40 AM	#29
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	You really should contact someone there. I'm converting sub 1/390 this month and I have 404 traffic hitting her site. If you or anyone ever has a problem contacting a specific rep at a program contact me, Phoenix, or another program rep, most of us can either direct you in the right direction to get your answers, or atleast take a look at your site and tell you what you're doing wrong. Rico is a solid guy I'm sure he'll take care of you.

08-18-2005, 08:42 AM	#31
killerkay Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: amish paradise Posts: 1,482	that sucks, U oughta go with RageCash __________________ $$$ UP TO 5$ PER FREE SIGNUP! $$$

08-18-2005, 08:43 AM	#32
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	I've done pretty good with panchodog sites. One thing I don't understand is the use of divx movies on the tours, why scare potentional sales away cause they can watch the movies? __________________ Truth Teller

08-18-2005, 08:55 AM	#37
Shooting_Manic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 1,740	Panchogod is one of hte best teen sponsors out there. I just looked at my stats over 2 years and Im still under 1:400. Clearly your traffic sucks ass. If you cant convert them then you need a lesson on teen traffic. You started a thread saying "sponsors that will go out of their way for their affiliates". How about, "affiliates that will go out of their way for their sponsors"? I mean Panchodog provides great tools (far more then most) great support and their sites convert... all you have done is talk shit on a and only sent 3000 plus clicks. haha Bout time sponsors started canceling accounts of clueless webmasters. Post your traffic sources I doubt you will. Just another shit talker. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Last edited by Shooting_Manic; 08-18-2005 at 08:57 AM..

08-18-2005, 09:06 AM	#39
Rico Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: mexico Posts: 1,271	Before everyone begins fighting in this thread, we are taking care of the issue. Whenever ANY affiliate has a problem, we do our BEST to figure it out and help in any way we can. Sometimes, (VERY SELDOM happens) there is nothing we can do. Most of the time, there IS something we can do So, let's see what happens guys, we're on it. No more bashing, noone benifits from that ;) We appreciate everyone's loyalty, however, I'd rather not see anyone get beaten up in any thread regarding our program. ----- Regarding the DIV X codec - we are working on alternate video codecs and versions, which should be released very soon. It all takes time ;) __________________ °°panchodog.com°° °°100+ paysites!!°° °°katiefey°°°felicityfey°° °°kristinafey°°°& Andi Pink!°°

08-18-2005, 09:40 AM	#43
Rico Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: mexico Posts: 1,271	A few reasons WHY ratios COULD have bad moments: 1. Processors. At present, processors MUST scrub harder to prevent their 'clients' from being subject to fraud on many different levels. This effects ratios of course, the days of scrub free sales are OVER. Ratios WILL be affected by this. PanchoDog is working on this situation, hoping to target certain countries and monitor scrubbing, so in the very near future, we can control this, allowing less declines and better ratios. At present, it will behave eradicly, as I am sure it does with every other program out there. 2. Foreign traffic. There has been a huge flood of foreign traffic in the internet, within the last year, which is steadily growing, mainly due to many countries recently offering broadband services that were not available before to: - non credit card users with no REAL method of payment through the existing processors we use. - credit card users that are blocked by existing processors who scrub too hard or ban those countries. In addition, freesites, TGP's, etc are purchasing cheap foreign traffic to boost their trades. Clicks are not what they used to be, and we're sure everyone can vouch for that. Not accusing any particular TGP's or freesites, but we KNOW it happens. 3. Promotion. How are you promoting our sites? This is really important. Many hardcore TGP's will try to sell our sofcore sites as hardcore sites, or simply put, hardcore traffic will convert MUCH worse towards softcore and nonnude sites, than the reverse. Also, saying things like " See Kristina take it up the ass" when she does nothing even remotely similar, will not work well either. There are many other things behind this as well, which we can help our affiliates with, if they contact us, and give us the opportunity to analyze the situation and help correct, improve, or change things around, to better the outcome. We would suggest that affiliates contact us, when clicks are in the 1500 range, as it is NOT normal to NOT get a sale before then. Our average, even with a few odd cases such as yourself, is 1:290 - which is quite good, considering. Remember, hit us up anytime, with questions, comments, or the like. Rico __________________ °°panchodog.com°° °°100+ paysites!!°° °°katiefey°°°felicityfey°° °°kristinafey°°°& Andi Pink!°°

08-18-2005, 09:46 AM	#45
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	Rico you're awesome, nice way to keep the peace

08-18-2005, 10:11 AM	#46
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	Sorry to tell you this but its not PachoDog fault...

08-18-2005, 10:45 AM	#47
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08-18-2005, 01:19 PM	#50
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	My conversions have been very good with panchodog! When these threads come up, I always look at see if anyhting has changed. As you can see from my list they are one of the TOP Sponosrs this month. http://www.tophotlist.com/webmaster/ But I did notice that for the last 5 days things have not done so well... But my overal average is still posted above... __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]