Making the Change to XP - GoFuckYourself.com

Fletch XXX · 02-09-2002, 02:52 PM

Hey folks, bout to drop some cash and get a new system tonight. And it occured to me that most if not all new systems are running XP right? well are all my old lil thumb maker programs and batch this and that gonna work smoothly? Im certain Dreamweaver and all my macromedia shit will work, but havent really toyed with the new OS yet.

I am guessing they will work fine, and learning curves are fun, but wanted to get a lil feedback.

Thanks in advance.

02-09-2002, 02:54 PM

There is no learning involved... XP simply sucks ass. If you have the option, format c: and install Win2k.

I've made my own little eXPerience and now I'm glad that I'm on 2k again.

RedShoe · 02-09-2002, 02:55 PM

You're better off with Windows 2000 pro.

There were a lot of negative posts about XP a while back. Do a search for them.

02-09-2002, 02:56 PM

Search or just slighlty move your head up a little.

RedShoe · 02-09-2002, 02:56 PM

Screw you Equinox, get out of here, I'm helping him not YOU!!

02-09-2002, 02:58 PM

Stop yelling at me, motherfucker !

RedShoe · 02-09-2002, 03:36 PM

Whatever, just get the fuck out of here, he doesn't want to hear your hatred for XP.

You don't even know what Xp is.

ldinternet · 02-09-2002, 03:45 PM

XP rocks.

jollyperv · 02-09-2002, 03:55 PM

I Love XP, but it needs a bit of initial tweaking to remove the bubbly shit...but it definetely knocks 98's dick in the dirt. I've never tried 2000 so I have no basis for comparison.

Nbritte · 02-09-2002, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Hey folks, bout to drop some cash and get a new system tonight. And it occured to me that most if not all new systems are running XP right? well are all my old lil thumb maker programs and batch this and that gonna work smoothly? Im certain Dreamweaver and all my macromedia shit will work, but havent really toyed with the new OS yet.

I am guessing they will work fine, and learning curves are fun, but wanted to get a lil feedback.

Thanks in advance.

This is my one and only experience with XP
I took my daughter to visit her mother while there my ex asked to to set up her new compute. The computer came with modem. network card and general stuff installed including XP. Well I check it and the network card didnt work, why well it didnt have a signed certificate or something like that for XP so XP would not install it. That made me just want to run out and get xp for my computers "not"

Brian

Nbritte · 02-09-2002, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by ldinternet
XP rocks.

lol yeah like a rock it sinks right to the bottom

Amputate Your Head · 02-09-2002, 07:24 PM

XP is pure unadulterated evil.

UnseenWorld · 02-09-2002, 07:27 PM

XP been very very good to me!

willow · 02-09-2002, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nbritte

This is my one and only experience with XP
I took my daughter to visit her mother while there my ex asked to to set up her new compute. The computer came with modem. network card and general stuff installed including XP. Well I check it and the network card didnt work, why well it didnt have a signed certificate or something like that for XP so XP would not install it. That made me just want to run out and get xp for my computers "not"

Brian

So you didn't notice where it said, "We really don't recommend you do this, but if you like pain click the override button.", eh?
Maybe it was some sort of preview release. I have unsigned XP DSL drivers, it complained, but you just click to override.

Like it or not M$ is going to be stopping all support for anything less than XP very soon if they haven't already. Save yourself the pain of not being able to get/use the latest drivers and just upgrade. M$ are going to drag you kicking and whining to the next version, like it or not. Sorry.

AzteK · 02-09-2002, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nbritte

This is my one and only experience with XP
I took my daughter to visit her mother while there my ex asked to to set up her new compute. The computer came with modem. network card and general stuff installed including XP. Well I check it and the network card didnt work, why well it didnt have a signed certificate or something like that for XP so XP would not install it. That made me just want to run out and get xp for my computers "not"

Brian

that sounds like a user problem to me ;)
we call it an ID 10 T error

XP is way better for the home user than 2000
unless you're on a network ;)

most of the complaints sounds like the users don't know how to use the operating system more than the operating system being a problem...

no offence to anyone

AzteK · 02-09-2002, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by jollyperv
I Love XP, but it needs a bit of initial tweaking to remove the bubbly shit....

couldn't agree more

TheWatcher · 02-09-2002, 07:38 PM

needs a lot of tweaking. heh

Amputate Your Head · 02-09-2002, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by AzteK
XP is way better for the home user than 2000
unless you're on a network ;)

Are there any actual serious webmasters without a network?

XP is a piece of useless shit. It's designed for the fucking feel-good teeny bopper bubblegum bitch / afterschool little johnny soccer player / idiot housewife AOL user. It's fucking crap. I say this from a purely objective point of view. Functionality reigns supreme, and XP ain't got it. Oh sure.... they got lots of bells & fucking whistles to make you THINK it's more functional.... when it's really more functional for Microsoft. Yeah.... they're trackin' your fuckin ass now baby.... how you like your 6 hardware upgrades? Hope you didn't blow 'em all on a bad NIC install.

Any serious poweruser does not require, nor want, that prettied up $2 dollar whore of an OS. Fuck Microsoft. Fuck their dev team. Fuck Bill Gates. And Fuck XP. Support? The only fucking software support I've EVER needed is ME.

Long Live Win2K Pro.

Rochard · 02-09-2002, 08:16 PM

I don't understand all of the complaints about XP. I've used Windows 3.x, 95, 98, ME, and now XP. I still use 98 at home, but my new box at work came with XP (thanks to Tanker....).

ME was nice - I plug something new into, and presto - I can use it with no hassle.

XP...... Knows exactly what I plug into it, and I don't need to do anything. It does't matter what it is - Scanner, digital camera, peerless drive......

When we first plugged my XP box into our network, it automatically set itself. I didn't have do a single thing, and I was added to the network.

The only problem I've had with XP was with ICQ...... But I worked around that one.

And I don't understand all of this Microsoft bashing. I was into computers before we had operating systems, and Windows is a great improvement. Without Windows, the average dumb ass wouldn't be able to use a computer.

I'm not a huge fan of Microsoft, but until someone builds a better OS I refuse to bash Microsoft.

AzteK · 02-09-2002, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Are there any actual serious webmasters without a network?

Oh so you have win200 advance server and DHCP and a domain controler and active directory and DNS on your network? heh

thats what I mean by a network

not just a couple of computers hooked up together

AzteK · 02-09-2002, 08:28 PM

everybody talking shit about MS

I'm sure the OS you wrote is better ;)

let me ask you, are there any other operating systems that have so much hardware support? Have you checked the HCL list?

And another point, if it wasn't because of MS we would not be where we are right now.

Amputate Your Head · 02-09-2002, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzteK

Oh so you have win200 advance server and DHCP and a domain controler and active directory and DNS on your network? heh

thats what I mean by a network not just a couple of computers hooked up together

Yes... I do.

Next question?

Amputate Your Head · 02-09-2002, 08:43 PM

I also have Mail & FTP servers.

02-09-2002, 08:46 PM

Amp's the Uberpimp.

AzteK · 02-09-2002, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
I also have Mail & FTP servers.

hahaha you're da man!

Pornwolf · 02-09-2002, 08:59 PM

XP is good if you dont mind having to do a little extra network configuration and driver finding. Most companies that make software and hardware for computers haven't perfected the drivers for XP.

Most drivers that work for 2000, ME, & NT work for XP. But the ones that don't (Which seem to be the programs you need most) you can expect to spend hours on the phone with the companies tech support trying to configure. I spent 2 hours on the phone with the Netgear folks trying to make my Wireless Networking card work with my XP & Roadrunner (who also don't offer support for XP yet).

Otherwise XP does some good things. It automatically recognizes camera and video equipment for easy media transfer and editing without having to use the included software. That helps a lot.

sasush · 02-09-2002, 10:16 PM

i have windows xp
icq fucked up

TAKE A LOOK...

its happens that on some programs

Amputate Your Head · 02-09-2002, 10:26 PM

hey, but as long as it looks pretty....

[Labret] · 02-09-2002, 10:34 PM

XP just looks like it should be called "My First Computer". God its so god damn sugary sweet and friendly. Makes we wanna fucking puke everytime I see one. I thought Win98 was pushing it with the user friendly GUI.

What has happened? Computers used to strike fear in people. Cold and dark, like a nice telnet session should be. Now everything is all big and clunky and looks like it was made by a 16 year old girl. Even fucking gramma can plug and play her digital cam into her new shiny computer box and send email around the globe 3 minutes after she popping off pics of grandpa.

You know what that would have taken just 5 or 6 years ago? You couldnt. The mere thought of a broadband connection in my house, a 100 gig hard drive and 500 megs of ram was a fantasy land. Not too mention all the warez and mp3s.

All the idiots are on the internet now.

I hate you and your pretty computers. I would feel dirty if I had to use one.

AzteK · 02-09-2002, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sasush
i have windows xp
icq fucked up

TAKE A LOOK...

its happens that on some programs

ok ok now think a little back
maybe 98

THEN! you would have had to restart your computer
but now with XP its almost impossible to crash the OS itself

AzteK · 02-09-2002, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]

All the idiots are on the internet now.

haha aren't all the "idiots" making you money?

=^..^= · 02-09-2002, 10:50 PM

What?!! You onoy get that on ICQ???

I get that error on every fuvking program - always comes up right after the memory dump and it takes 10 mins to restart windows but i have to use a boot disk >

Also I took off XP and sntalled win2kpro - but i couldn't get drivers for video or audio for use in my machine with that OS as this laptop has been built for XP
I was offline for an entire week!! >

=^..^= · 02-09-2002, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AzteK

haha aren't all the "idiots" making you money?

Its becuase they ARE idiots that they are making us all $$$ ;)

Amputate Your Head · 02-09-2002, 10:58 PM

There isn't an OS built that I can't crash in less than five minutes.

=^..^= · 02-09-2002, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
There isn't an OS built that I can't crash in less than five minutes.

You and me both

AzteK · 02-09-2002, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=

Its becuase they ARE idiots that they are making us all $$$ ;)

LOL

Rochard · 02-09-2002, 11:30 PM

Doesn't everyone have it backwards? Within reason, Microsoft attempts to make it's latest OS work with "other software". It's complicated shit - above anyone on GFY - and takes a lot of effort.

It's almost like like taking the tires off of my 1965 Mustang Fastback and trying to put them on my 2001 Mustang - The tires from the '65 are too big to fit on my new Musang. Do I have the right to bitch at ford because their new Mustang does't take parts from an old one? Of course not.

Again, I had that "core" problem with ICQ. I didn't think it was Microsoft's fault. Microsoft didn't write XP with ICQ in mind. Instead, maybe ICQ should have written it's software to work with XP.

Mr. Grimm · 02-10-2002, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
There isn't an OS built that I can't crash in less than five minutes.

OSX rocks. cannot craash it

Fletch XXX · 02-10-2002, 02:10 AM

So far so good. I dig it, of course anything needs tweaking, I wouldnt consider myself a "user" if I didnt tweak the fuck out of everything, as for ICQ fuck that program, that thing has never ran correctly on any machine I have ever had, and I run every OS from Win95 - Xp - Mac OS 8 and none of them have pleased me as much as my Mac OS.

I really dont want to start a Mac Vs Win thread, any professional knows the difference and the answer to the argument.

I wouldnt consider doing professional audio without my g4 and theres no way i could get all these snazzy free downloads for my mac. Makes sense. Mac isnt consumer level, most would argue that too, more professional, which is why there is less h(c)racked software out there, but like me if you can afford the 6k price tag, you really gonna weep over the price of Photoshop?

You get what you pay for.

yetisalmon · 02-10-2002, 02:45 AM

XP is fine......it looks neato with StyleXP installed......themes themes themes!

: That's my.....4 cents or so....

yeti

Fletch XXX · 02-10-2002, 03:00 AM

hmmm I have found something weird though, some of my sites that use layers are not showing up on my new machine that I run Xp on, but they look fine on all my other machines in both netscape and IE? WTF?

Where a certain layer should be, the html code appears instead of the layer, hmmm? Any ideas? It looks fine even in my AOL browser hahahaha but not on this new machine running xp?

02-09-2002, 02:52 PM	#1
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Making the Change to XP Hey folks, bout to drop some cash and get a new system tonight. And it occured to me that most if not all new systems are running XP right? well are all my old lil thumb maker programs and batch this and that gonna work smoothly? Im certain Dreamweaver and all my macromedia shit will work, but havent really toyed with the new OS yet. I am guessing they will work fine, and learning curves are fun, but wanted to get a lil feedback. Thanks in advance. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-09-2002, 02:55 PM	#3
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02-09-2002, 02:56 PM	#5
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	Screw you Equinox, get out of here, I'm helping him not YOU!! __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

02-09-2002, 03:36 PM	#7
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	Whatever, just get the fuck out of here, he doesn't want to hear your hatred for XP. You don't even know what Xp is. __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

02-09-2002, 07:27 PM	#13
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	XP been very very good to me! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

02-09-2002, 02:54 PM	#2
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	There is no learning involved... XP simply sucks ass. If you have the option, format c: and install Win2k. I've made my own little eXPerience and now I'm glad that I'm on 2k again.

02-09-2002, 02:58 PM	#6
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Stop yelling at me, motherfucker !

02-09-2002, 03:45 PM	#8
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	XP rocks.

02-09-2002, 03:55 PM	#9
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	I Love XP, but it needs a bit of initial tweaking to remove the bubbly shit...but it definetely knocks 98's dick in the dirt. I've never tried 2000 so I have no basis for comparison.

02-09-2002, 07:24 PM	#12
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	XP is pure unadulterated evil.

02-09-2002, 07:38 PM	#17
TheWatcher Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 563	needs a lot of tweaking. heh __________________ <img src="http://www.betagamer.com/wr_designs.gif"> - TheWatcher [email protected] Need Graphic work? E-mail!

02-09-2002, 08:16 PM	#19
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,027	I don't understand all of the complaints about XP. I've used Windows 3.x, 95, 98, ME, and now XP. I still use 98 at home, but my new box at work came with XP (thanks to Tanker....). ME was nice - I plug something new into, and presto - I can use it with no hassle. XP...... Knows exactly what I plug into it, and I don't need to do anything. It does't matter what it is - Scanner, digital camera, peerless drive...... When we first plugged my XP box into our network, it automatically set itself. I didn't have do a single thing, and I was added to the network. The only problem I've had with XP was with ICQ...... But I worked around that one. And I don't understand all of this Microsoft bashing. I was into computers before we had operating systems, and Windows is a great improvement. Without Windows, the average dumb ass wouldn't be able to use a computer. I'm not a huge fan of Microsoft, but until someone builds a better OS I refuse to bash Microsoft.

02-09-2002, 08:28 PM	#21
AzteK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Northern Cali, USA Posts: 3,445	everybody talking shit about MS I'm sure the OS you wrote is better ;) let me ask you, are there any other operating systems that have so much hardware support? Have you checked the HCL list? And another point, if it wasn't because of MS we would not be where we are right now.

02-09-2002, 08:43 PM	#23
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I also have Mail & FTP servers.

02-09-2002, 08:46 PM	#24
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Amp's the Uberpimp.

02-09-2002, 08:59 PM	#26
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	XP is good if you dont mind having to do a little extra network configuration and driver finding. Most companies that make software and hardware for computers haven't perfected the drivers for XP. Most drivers that work for 2000, ME, & NT work for XP. But the ones that don't (Which seem to be the programs you need most) you can expect to spend hours on the phone with the companies tech support trying to configure. I spent 2 hours on the phone with the Netgear folks trying to make my Wireless Networking card work with my XP & Roadrunner (who also don't offer support for XP yet). Otherwise XP does some good things. It automatically recognizes camera and video equipment for easy media transfer and editing without having to use the included software. That helps a lot. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

02-09-2002, 10:16 PM	#27
sasush So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	i have windows xp icq fucked up TAKE A LOOK... its happens that on some programs

02-09-2002, 10:26 PM	#28
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	hey, but as long as it looks pretty....

02-09-2002, 10:34 PM	#29
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	XP just looks like it should be called "My First Computer". God its so god damn sugary sweet and friendly. Makes we wanna fucking puke everytime I see one. I thought Win98 was pushing it with the user friendly GUI. What has happened? Computers used to strike fear in people. Cold and dark, like a nice telnet session should be. Now everything is all big and clunky and looks like it was made by a 16 year old girl. Even fucking gramma can plug and play her digital cam into her new shiny computer box and send email around the globe 3 minutes after she popping off pics of grandpa. You know what that would have taken just 5 or 6 years ago? You couldnt. The mere thought of a broadband connection in my house, a 100 gig hard drive and 500 megs of ram was a fantasy land. Not too mention all the warez and mp3s. All the idiots are on the internet now. I hate you and your pretty computers. I would feel dirty if I had to use one.

02-09-2002, 10:50 PM	#32
=^..^= Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ 380-366 Posts: 6,935	What?!! You onoy get that on ICQ??? I get that error on every fuvking program - always comes up right after the memory dump and it takes 10 mins to restart windows but i have to use a boot disk > Also I took off XP and sntalled win2kpro - but i couldn't get drivers for video or audio for use in my machine with that OS as this laptop has been built for XP I was offline for an entire week!! > __________________ #RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF

02-09-2002, 10:58 PM	#34
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	There isn't an OS built that I can't crash in less than five minutes.

02-09-2002, 11:30 PM	#37
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,027	Doesn't everyone have it backwards? Within reason, Microsoft attempts to make it's latest OS work with "other software". It's complicated shit - above anyone on GFY - and takes a lot of effort. It's almost like like taking the tires off of my 1965 Mustang Fastback and trying to put them on my 2001 Mustang - The tires from the '65 are too big to fit on my new Musang. Do I have the right to bitch at ford because their new Mustang does't take parts from an old one? Of course not. Again, I had that "core" problem with ICQ. I didn't think it was Microsoft's fault. Microsoft didn't write XP with ICQ in mind. Instead, maybe ICQ should have written it's software to work with XP.

02-10-2002, 01:16 AM	#38
Mr. Grimm Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: New Orleans Posts: 65	Originally posted by Amputate Your Head There isn't an OS built that I can't crash in less than five minutes. OSX rocks. cannot craash it __________________ <a href="http://www.directnic.com>Directnic... 15.00 domain names, best customer support.</a>

02-10-2002, 02:10 AM	#39
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	So far so good. I dig it, of course anything needs tweaking, I wouldnt consider myself a "user" if I didnt tweak the fuck out of everything, as for ICQ fuck that program, that thing has never ran correctly on any machine I have ever had, and I run every OS from Win95 - Xp - Mac OS 8 and none of them have pleased me as much as my Mac OS. I really dont want to start a Mac Vs Win thread, any professional knows the difference and the answer to the argument. I wouldnt consider doing professional audio without my g4 and theres no way i could get all these snazzy free downloads for my mac. Makes sense. Mac isnt consumer level, most would argue that too, more professional, which is why there is less h(c)racked software out there, but like me if you can afford the 6k price tag, you really gonna weep over the price of Photoshop? You get what you pay for. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-10-2002, 02:45 AM	#40
yetisalmon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 55	XP is fine......it looks neato with StyleXP installed......themes themes themes! : That's my.....4 cents or so.... yeti

02-10-2002, 03:00 AM	#41
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	hmmm I have found something weird though, some of my sites that use layers are not showing up on my new machine that I run Xp on, but they look fine on all my other machines in both netscape and IE? WTF? Where a certain layer should be, the html code appears instead of the layer, hmmm? Any ideas? It looks fine even in my AOL browser hahahaha but not on this new machine running xp? __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me