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Old 08-15-2005, 05:25 PM   #1
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Just a thought about the "protesting" mother.

Perhaps she should have sat down with her son & explained that along with the free education, housing, training, & food....he would also become a warrior.

And sometimes warriors die in a battle. And their death is that of honor, because they are a warrior.

"Maybe you can tell me for what cause my son died"

The preservation & spreading of the American way of life. Like it or not, its what we do. Sometimes we're successfull look at japan & south korea and sometimes we're not, look at vietnam.

And if he died for oil, then so be it as well....you probably used some sort of fossile fuel to get to bush's ranch. We all need it, we all want it cheap, & we all bitch when it costs more.

Wars will be fought until the day the last human has something his neighbor doesn't, and is killed for it. It's sad but its the circle of life. I think we all just need to get used to it. I hate to say it, but i've lost all hope in "utopia".
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Bush could save himself a LOT bad press simply by inviting her in for half an hour or so (without the press).
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Bush could save himself a LOT bad press simply by inviting her in for half an hour or so (without the press).
Do you really think he's worried about bad press?
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Bush could save himself a LOT bad press simply by inviting her in for half an hour or so (without the press).
He already met with her before. She is just a Streisand wanna-be. Even her son would tell her she is a fucktard, if he was alive.
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He already met with her before. She is just a Streisand wanna-be. Even her son would tell her she is a fucktard, if he was alive.
you mean jane fonda?

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There is honor in battle when fighting for something that is good or just. Fighting just because someone wants you to fight, without being truthfull in regards to the cause and not explaining why you are killing those you are is not honor. It is sacrificing yourself and your body to the whims of the leaders.

Warriors or lets face it soldiers sold through dispair more often than not die a lonely battle with their minds after they come home, long forgotten by the leaders who assisted in the damage they suffer from. Yet as long as there are poor, gulable people there is no need to worry about them, they are expendable and replaceable.

That said, it is really the kids fault though. He joined up on his own and got waxed.

Though the part about his daughters is a valid point.
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Though the part about his daughters is a valid point.
Ehh? Its a VOLUNTEER Army. Obviously the Bush girls dont want to VOLUNTEER lol. This lady has no fucking point other than to get what she can out of this circus, its purely selfish.
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it is really the kids fault though. He joined up on his own and got waxed.
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the only part i agreed with

however i do believe he died in honor....as a warrior

khan was a WARRIOR, and his conquests earned him honor, even though they were not for "true & virtious causes"

war never changes, only popular opinion
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He already met with her before. She is just a Streisand wanna-be. Even her son would tell her she is a fucktard, if he was alive.
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Wars will be fought until the day the last human has something his neighbor doesn't, and is killed for it. It's sad but its the circle of life. I think we all just need to get used to it. I hate to say it, but i've lost all hope in "utopia".
This ideal state we are dreaming is just unattainable.
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This ideal state we are dreaming is just unattainable.
I suppose with the electromagnetic field that encompassed the earth, along with a machine that utlilized that field to disrupt our brainwaves much like a anti-pyschotic drug would, it could be theoretically possible to end violence on large scales.
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I wonder how the oil companies are doing now that gas is creeping up to 3 bucks a gallon.
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I wonder how the oil companies are doing now that gas is creeping up to 3 bucks a gallon.
Their banking hard...i'm sure stock holders are happy as fuck.
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At least Nixon had the balls to tax the gas companies back to their senses
with the windfall tax. Too bad they got him back with their bullshit.
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I wonder how the oil companies are doing now that gas is creeping up to 3 bucks a gallon.
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/
Oil companies arent making ANY more than they normally would you dumb fucking cockmonkey. Go back to school you fucking need it.
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Oil companies arent making ANY more than they normally would you dumb fucking cockmonkey. Go back to school you fucking need it.

Can you explain how the article link you posted has anything to do as " how are the ga$ company doing " ?????

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NEW YORK (CNN/Money) ? Gasoline prices in the United States, which have recently hit record highs, are actually much lower than in many countries. Drivers in some European cities, like Amsterdam and Oslo, are paying nearly 3 times more than those in the U.S.

The main factor in price disparities between countries is government policy, according to AirInc, a company that tracks the cost of living in various places around the world. Many European nations tax gasoline heavily, with taxes making up as much as 75 percent of the cost of a gallon of gasoline, said a spokesperson for AirInc.

In a few Latin America and Middle-East nations, such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens, he said. All prices updated March, 2005
Where does it say that Exxon is not doing great or Texaco ...

As usual, youre post are basically idiotic.
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Oil companies arent making ANY more than they normally would you dumb fucking cockmonkey. Go back to school you fucking need it.
How about shoving this up your stinking ass:

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By STEVE QUINN, AP

IRVING, Texas (AP) - Exxon Mobil Corp., the world's largest publicly traded oil company, reported a 32 percent increase in second-quarter profits as it reaped the benefits of soaring oil and natural gas prices.

Net income for the April-June quarter rose to $7.64 billion, or $1.20 per share, from $5.79 billion, or 88 cents per share, the year before. Excluding one-time items, earnings totaled $7.84 billion, or $1.23 per share, Exxon said on Thursday.

The adjusted earnings just missed analysts' expectations for profit of $1.24 per share, according to a Thomson Financial survey.

Revenue totaled $88.57 billion, a gain of 25 percent from $70.69 billion a year earlier.

Profits from exploration and production jumped $1 billion to $4.9 billion, a reflection of strong crude and natural gas prices offsetting a 4.3 percent reduction in output, the company said.

Fadel Gheit, an analyst with Oppenheimer & Co., said Exxon's profits from that segment stood out. But Gheit thought the figures should have been higher than the first quarter's $5 billion, perhaps by as much as $500 million.

"It leads me to believe costs must be rising, which I have no argument with," he said. "The underlying cost structure for Exxon and the industry is definitely rising -- and it could be rising pretty fast. They can do what ever they want, but at the end of the day, the industry will dictate the environment."

Earnings from refining and selling petroleum products rose $714 million to $2.2 billion, while earnings from its chemicals business were $814 million, up $207 million from a year earlier.

"We had a very strong second quarter in all segments of our business," said Henry Hubble, Exxon's vice president of investor relations. "Our continued focus on operational and executional excellence underpins these results."

The company said its capital and exploration spending rose from $3.6 billion to $4.5 billion.

"Exxon Mobil-operated projects that are key to the future volume growth continue to be on budget and on or ahead of schedule," said Exxon Mobil chairman and chief executive Lee R. Raymond.

The strong second quarter enabled Exxon Mobil to produce a record $15.5 billion in net income, or $2.42 per share, for the first six months. That 38 percent boost is up $4.2 billion, or $1.71 a share, from the first six months of 2004.

Not only has it surpassed last year's two-quarter mark. Exxon is just $1.5 billion off its three-quarter performance from last year. If Exxon continues at this pace, it could record more than $30 billion in net income; last year it netted $25.3 billion.

Revenue for the first half reached $170 billion, which is up from $138 billion after six months last year.

"They made a lot of money last year, but now they are printing it," Gheit said.

So far in the first half, exploration and production net income rose $2.1 billion to $9.9 billion, and earnings from refining and petroleum sales rose $853 million to $3.3 billion, the product of stronger worldwide margins, the company said. Chemical earnings of $2 billion were up $925 million form the first half of last year.

Shares of Exxon fell 9 cents to $59.50 in early afternoon trading. The stock has been trading in a 52-week range of $44.20 to $64.37.

07/28/05 14:11 EDT

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There is honor in battle when fighting for something that is good or just. Fighting just because someone wants you to fight, without being truthfull in regards to the cause and not explaining why you are killing those you are is not honor. It is sacrificing yourself and your body to the whims of the leaders.

Warriors or lets face it soldiers sold through dispair more often than not die a lonely battle with their minds after they come home, long forgotten by the leaders who assisted in the damage they suffer from. Yet as long as there are poor, gulable people there is no need to worry about them, they are expendable and replaceable.

That said, it is really the kids fault though. He joined up on his own and got waxed.

Though the part about his daughters is a valid point.
My grandfather died a US Marine on some island in the South Pacific during WWII. This was a few weeks before we nuked Japan. Was this cause good or just?

My father died a US Marine in Vietnam - when I was nine months old. Was this battle good or just?

And like my father before me, and his father before him, I too joined the US Marines. When I signed up I knew all too well that if our country went to war I would be on the front line, and that there was a good chance I would not come home. Everyone who signs up knows the risks.

In return I was well fed, housed, had proper medical and dental, and a host of other benefits - some of which I still enjoy today.

Soldiers do not get to decide if a war is "good" or "just". Instead, they go to war and pray for the best.

This kid was no different. He knew the risks when he signed up. And so did his mother.

Why did her kid die? Because he offered his soul to protect his country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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the greatest dream of a swordsman is the day when swords are unnecessary. even soldiers want wars to stop, unfortunately not for now.
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My grandfather died a US Marine on some island in the South Pacific during WWII. This was a few weeks before we nuked Japan. Was this cause good or just?

My father died a US Marine in Vietnam - when I was nine months old. Was this battle good or just?

And like my father before me, and his father before him, I too joined the US Marines. When I signed up I knew all too well that if our country went to war I would be on the front line, and that there was a good chance I would not come home. Everyone who signs up knows the risks.

In return I was well fed, housed, had proper medical and dental, and a host of other benefits - some of which I still enjoy today.

Soldiers do not get to decide if a war is "good" or "just". Instead, they go to war and pray for the best.

This kid was no different. He knew the risks when he signed up. And so did his mother.

Why did her kid die? Because he offered his soul to protect his country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Well fuckin' spoken, Rochard!
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My grandfather died a US Marine on some island in the South Pacific during WWII. This was a few weeks before we nuked Japan. Was this cause good or just?

My father died a US Marine in Vietnam - when I was nine months old. Was this battle good or just?

And like my father before me, and his father before him, I too joined the US Marines. When I signed up I knew all too well that if our country went to war I would be on the front line, and that there was a good chance I would not come home. Everyone who signs up knows the risks.

In return I was well fed, housed, had proper medical and dental, and a host of other benefits - some of which I still enjoy today.

Soldiers do not get to decide if a war is "good" or "just". Instead, they go to war and pray for the best.

This kid was no different. He knew the risks when he signed up. And so did his mother.

Why did her kid die? Because he offered his soul to protect his country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Post of the year.

Thank you.

And thank you to your family for their sacrifices.
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He died for a lie thats not ok because these kids voluntreer to protect us and our way of life doesnt give the government the right to put them in harms way for a lie and a hidden agenda. What would this Admin know about this when they are all draft dodgers.
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My grandfather died a US Marine on some island in the South Pacific during WWII. This was a few weeks before we nuked Japan. Was this cause good or just?

My father died a US Marine in Vietnam - when I was nine months old. Was this battle good or just?

And like my father before me, and his father before him, I too joined the US Marines. When I signed up I knew all too well that if our country went to war I would be on the front line, and that there was a good chance I would not come home. Everyone who signs up knows the risks.

In return I was well fed, housed, had proper medical and dental, and a host of other benefits - some of which I still enjoy today.

Soldiers do not get to decide if a war is "good" or "just". Instead, they go to war and pray for the best.

This kid was no different. He knew the risks when he signed up. And so did his mother.

Why did her kid die? Because he offered his soul to protect his country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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his mother is an ugly hag...carry on.
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i don't get it, people in the us go to the army not cause they have to, cause they want to... a part of the job is to put your life on the line as part of the worlds biggest army.
they get paid very well, and people ask why they died?
In the army people die, who ever wants to live can go and start up a few porn sites.
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The LIE is always changing, now it is: spreading freedom in a global struggle against violent extremism LOL!

Dont worry they are shedding thier unreality.

"What we expected to achieve was never realistic given the timetable or what unfolded on the ground," said a senior official involved in policy since the 2003 invasion. "We are in a process of absorbing the factors of the situation we're in and shedding the unreality that dominated at the beginning."
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He already met with her before.
He met with her 2 months after his death, before she had time to go through the processes and even know how she felt. He breezed in like they were throwing him a tea party, didn't even bother to be briefed on who was being honored and called her mom a bunch of times. Some meeting.
Millions of Americans have changed their mind about the Iraq war since then and the poll numbers are such that they obviously include die-hard Republicans.
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Even her son would tell her she is a fucktard, if he was alive.
Then you must be calling Cindy Sheehan a liar when she says her son said he didn't want to go to Iraq. He felt he had been lied to.

Here is the best thing I have read on the subject all week:
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Good morning, campers.

You know, we?ve seen the right wing smear so many people, shouldn?t it be transparent by now? I mean, here?s Cindy Sheehan, a woman who lost her son in Iraq ? Specialist Casey Sheehan, killed in a hail of grenades and small-arms fire in 2004. And she just wants to ask the president what noble cause her son died for. George Bush says all the time that soldiers are dying for a noble cause. So what is it?

It?s not weapons of mass destruction ? which we didn?t find, and which George Bush didn?t give weapons inspectors a chance to find ? or NOT find. It wasn?t just to remove Saddam Hussein, since America seemed comfortable doing business with him before. It?s not to stop terrorism, since terrorists weren?t there before we invaded ? and some of the enemy WEREN?T terrorists before we invaded. It wasn?t to avenge 9/11, since Saddam had nothing to do with that.

Why are we really there? It?s a fair question.

So the right wing is smearing her for it. You?ve got so called " broadcasters" like this guy Bob Newman in Denver implying she?s racist, that she?s selfish, that she?s on the side of the 9/11 terrorists. This arrogant creep even presumes to speak for her son. It?s just like what they did with John Kerry?s war record. They take what?s most noble about somebody and they smear it with filth.

You know what?s really behind this? You know why neo-cons come out with that kind of lying, desperate garbage?

Because they can?t answer Cindy Sheehan?s question either.

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He met with her 2 months after his death, before she had time to go through the processes and even know how she felt. He breezed in like they were throwing him a tea party, didn't even bother to be briefed on who was being honored and called her mom a bunch of times. Some meeting.
Millions of Americans have changed their mind about the Iraq war since then and the poll numbers are such that they obviously include die-hard Republicans.Then you must be calling Cindy Sheehan a liar when she says her son said he didn't want to go to Iraq. He felt he had been lied to.

Here is the best thing I have read on the subject all week:

http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/node/567
1. Looks like to me she had a good ole time at the meeting also read this from newsweek about how Bush meets with the families.
2. This bitch has a history of activism even before this sham.
3. She is blogging at Michael Moores website AND The Huffington Post
4. She IS a fucking LIAR.

Look at all this wackos shit:
The Murder of Casey Sheehan
Her husband wants a divorce from the psycho
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http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/
Oil companies arent making ANY more than they normally would you dumb fucking cockmonkey. Go back to school you fucking need it.
So fucktard, how are ther oil companies doing ...

Please post another useless article and let me know how difficult their situation is... I need a good laugh to start the day ....

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