How many of you make over 8cents/1st page click on pure tgp traffic? - GoFuckYourself.com

Theo · 08-17-2005, 05:24 AM

and i'm talking about steadily revenues here. Sponsors can twist the numbers all they want, but if the paysites you promote doesn't rebill like a motherfucker you will not earn not even a portion of the potential value of your surfers regardless if its PPS or revshare.

Hopefully, justsexxx will see this thread and confirm that a large number of Diesel Action affiliates that run tgps making at least 8cents/1st page click.

still not convinced that your tgp traffic will make more money on our hands than 99% of the paysites out there? Contact me on icq and i'll prove you the opposite.

pussyluver · 08-17-2005, 05:29 AM

lots of varibles there. we'd like 8 cents per click on a 300K TGP with a productivity of 500%. 8 cents/click is not typical of tgp traffic and really can't be unlsss one rellay limits traffic and doesn't trade.

Let's add no traps or popup/exit hell.

Now can you still do it.

Theo · 08-17-2005, 05:42 AM

Obviously i'm not reffering to straight blind linking, but if that 300k tgp was using our FHG I can see the 8cents/click. We don't have popups and we don't have exits/traps.

first step you grab surfers attention. (Too many can do it.)
second step you make him join. (Several can do it)
Third step you make him stay for as long as possible. (Very few can do it)

If we can't bill them the most, we can't make you the most. Some times it gets as simple as that.

justsexxx · 08-17-2005, 05:45 AM

I read this and I can confirm it :-)

soukee · 08-17-2005, 05:48 AM

I have 0.03 USD/1st page raw in total...

Theo · 08-17-2005, 05:58 AM

I dont think you are reffering to DA, but regardless I can make you more than that if you contact me. Getting the earnings per unique - first page click I believe is better.

Rui · 08-17-2005, 06:07 AM

I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S

12clicks · 08-17-2005, 06:11 AM

how many of you make over .0000008 per visitor to your tgp?

justsexxx · 08-17-2005, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S

Stupid you

But you can start over now

Jakke PNG · 08-17-2005, 06:17 AM

I made $25/click yesterday for a certain sponsor, unfortunately my averages are about 3-4c/click.

Oracle Porn · 08-17-2005, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soukee

I have 0.03 USD/1st page raw in total...

same here

Theo · 08-17-2005, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S

true, i'm trying to cut this bad habit, but it's not easy hehe

point of thread is that rebills is the only way your traffic will ever reach the potential max. earnings. If you believe the opposite we can discuss it. I'll comment on popups, upsales and emails gathered in a bit.

VeriSexy · 08-17-2005, 06:39 AM

Then why not start a PPC with no ratios

StatsJunky · 08-17-2005, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

how many of you make over .0000008 per visitor to your tgp?

I would hope a 100k TGP can atleast make 8 cents/day.

Theo · 08-17-2005, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeriSexy

Then why not start a PPC with no ratios

PPC system is great for queries, but for paysite business it's not good imo. As many newbies I started using ppc sponsors believing it was the best for me. At this point of time if i switch my traffic to the best ppc adult sponsors i'll go in debt. Possible a hybrid-ppc could have potentials to be considered close to fair, but in general it's really unfair for both affiliates and sponsors + you have to monitor it for fraud all the day/night.

pussyluver · 08-17-2005, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by StatsJunky

I would hope a 100k TGP can atleast make 8 cents/day.

Got that beat - whew...

pussyluver · 08-17-2005, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Obviously i'm not reffering to straight blind linking, but if that 300k tgp was using our FHG I can see the 8cents/click. We don't have popups and we don't have exits/traps.

first step you grab surfers attention. (Too many can do it.)
second step you make him join. (Several can do it)
Third step you make him stay for as long as possible. (Very few can do it)

If we can't bill them the most, we can't make you the most. Some times it gets as simple as that.

First there are a ton of details - more than we may want to go into here. Geee if every one knew everthing, then it would be harder to make $. FHG have not proven to be that great on conversion for most sponsors. They also represent leakage from an SEO point of view.

Theo · 08-17-2005, 07:49 AM

Most sponsors wont make you anything close to what i mentioned on tgp traffic. Why? They don't know about traffic and by requesting yours they don't respect it. Hard, but true words.

Theo · 08-17-2005, 07:51 AM

can you explain me what do you mean with seo leakage and approx. what % of the sales it can represent?

Theo · 08-17-2005, 08:57 AM

pussyluver still around?

pussyluver · 08-17-2005, 09:43 AM

Yeah, been working - leave GFY open. I should close it so the green button goes off. Sorry about that.

You claim to know about traffic, then you should know about SEO leakage and FHG. By asking, you send a message. Hate to be ass, but I'll get over it. WTF, it is GFY. The answer is all over the SEO boards and white papers BTW.

I'll look at your program (sponsors program).

Theo · 08-17-2005, 10:11 AM

I don't claim to know everything and still I don't understand what do you mean. It would help if you explain me and/or poossible the rest. If you believe somehow you are losing sales from this seo leakage by letting us know there are more chances to fix it

JD · 08-17-2005, 10:16 AM

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Dalai lama · 08-17-2005, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

You should give www.makingcoin.com a shot. The new hardcore girls www.tinytobi.com and www.alexa18.com are converting like a mutha

lame entry.

AmateurFlix · 08-17-2005, 10:20 AM

How is someone going to have SEO leakage with FHG's on a separate domain from their paysite?

aleck · 08-17-2005, 10:29 AM

8cents? not bad. niches?

beemk · 08-17-2005, 01:39 PM

i have some sponsors that pay that or more. most dont on tgp traffic though.... or they give u some bs number like 2nd page etc

Theo · 08-17-2005, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleck

8cents? not bad. niches?

strictly teen

Theo · 08-18-2005, 03:39 AM

let's get the popup/exits/upsales/mailouts as revenue source vs rebills rolling here

Theo · 08-18-2005, 03:49 AM

entrance/exit popup revenues
-------------------------

When was the last time you saw a popup that draw your attention? More likely a long time ago. Guess what, same happens with the average surfer. Add on this the huge % of people that block popups and those that get very annoyed by them..... these factors have drop the popup revenues A LOT. I currently buy myself almost all the popup inventory of one of 10 largest adult sponsors so I can fairly comment on this. I see some sponsors offer up to $10 payout difference between popup and non-popup tours. Maybe they won't like it, but it's ridiculous claim.

aleck · 08-18-2005, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

strictly teen

ouch. thanks

Theo · 08-18-2005, 09:01 AM

upsales revenues
-------------------
Members areas have valuable traffic. It's equivalent to AVS traffic. CC holders browsing porn in both cases. All great so far, but putting the numbers down you'll see upsales cannot be such a significant % of the overall value of your clients. This used to be different in the past when optin mailing was going strong, but not anymore. I'll come this in a bit.

in the meantime check sig!

JD · 08-18-2005, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

strictly teen

Like I said. Try the makingcoin chicks.

wedouglas · 08-18-2005, 09:11 AM

I've got sponsors doing way better than .08, just not on TGP.

Trax · 08-18-2005, 09:18 AM

on the large portion of my SE traffic I don't even do 8 cents a unique lol
i mean... i got sponsors doing anywhere from 10-50 cents a unique
but this is not the average
8 cents on TGP - if true- is awesome

Theo · 08-18-2005, 09:40 AM

Trax, if you mean from seo it's result of various type of queries which is harder to convert, but volume makes up. If celeb traffic is large part of it I'll join your club, since the ratios I'm getting from ALL sponsors are horrible least to say hehe

Now if you are reffering to PPC traffic I'm sure you are doing way more on average, since you have a better chance to target the surfers you receive.

A teen tgp on our sites will do better than a hardcore tgp by default. I'm sure we do not operate the only paysites where some tgp webmasters do over 8cents/click steadily. Rebills are the secret behind that. Send me an icq msg if you n' I'll show you the difference between Diesel Action and majorty of teen paysites.

08-17-2005, 05:24 AM	#1
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	How many of you make over 8cents/1st page click on pure tgp traffic? and i'm talking about steadily revenues here. Sponsors can twist the numbers all they want, but if the paysites you promote doesn't rebill like a motherfucker you will not earn not even a portion of the potential value of your surfers regardless if its PPS or revshare. Hopefully, justsexxx will see this thread and confirm that a large number of Diesel Action affiliates that run tgps making at least 8cents/1st page click. still not convinced that your tgp traffic will make more money on our hands than 99% of the paysites out there? Contact me on icq and i'll prove you the opposite.

08-17-2005, 05:45 AM	#4
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	I read this and I can confirm it :-) __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

08-17-2005, 05:48 AM	#5
soukee Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: EU Posts: 1,108	I have 0.03 USD/1st page raw in total... __________________ I am still looking for new mature trades. Let's trade

08-17-2005, 06:11 AM	#8
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	how many of you make over .0000008 per visitor to your tgp? __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

08-17-2005, 06:17 AM	#10
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I made $25/click yesterday for a certain sponsor, unfortunately my averages are about 3-4c/click. __________________ ..and I'm off.

08-17-2005, 05:29 AM	#2
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	lots of varibles there. we'd like 8 cents per click on a 300K TGP with a productivity of 500%. 8 cents/click is not typical of tgp traffic and really can't be unlsss one rellay limits traffic and doesn't trade. Let's add no traps or popup/exit hell. Now can you still do it.

08-17-2005, 05:42 AM	#3
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Obviously i'm not reffering to straight blind linking, but if that 300k tgp was using our FHG I can see the 8cents/click. We don't have popups and we don't have exits/traps. first step you grab surfers attention. (Too many can do it.) second step you make him join. (Several can do it) Third step you make him stay for as long as possible. (Very few can do it) If we can't bill them the most, we can't make you the most. Some times it gets as simple as that.

08-17-2005, 05:58 AM	#6
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I dont think you are reffering to DA, but regardless I can make you more than that if you contact me. Getting the earnings per unique - first page click I believe is better.

08-17-2005, 06:07 AM	#7
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;) I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S

08-17-2005, 06:39 AM	#13
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08-17-2005, 07:49 AM	#18
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Most sponsors wont make you anything close to what i mentioned on tgp traffic. Why? They don't know about traffic and by requesting yours they don't respect it. Hard, but true words.

08-17-2005, 07:51 AM	#19
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	can you explain me what do you mean with seo leakage and approx. what % of the sales it can represent?

08-17-2005, 08:57 AM	#20
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	pussyluver still around?

08-17-2005, 09:43 AM	#21
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Yeah, been working - leave GFY open. I should close it so the green button goes off. Sorry about that. You claim to know about traffic, then you should know about SEO leakage and FHG. By asking, you send a message. Hate to be ass, but I'll get over it. WTF, it is GFY. The answer is all over the SEO boards and white papers BTW. I'll look at your program (sponsors program).

08-17-2005, 10:11 AM	#22
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I don't claim to know everything and still I don't understand what do you mean. It would help if you explain me and/or poossible the rest. If you believe somehow you are losing sales from this seo leakage by letting us know there are more chances to fix it

08-17-2005, 10:16 AM	#23
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	You should give www.makingcoin.com a shot. The new hardcore girls www.tinytobi.com and www.alexa18.com are converting like a mutha

08-17-2005, 10:20 AM	#25
AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	How is someone going to have SEO leakage with FHG's on a separate domain from their paysite? __________________

08-17-2005, 10:29 AM	#26
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	8cents? not bad. niches? __________________ come trade shemale traffic here

08-17-2005, 01:39 PM	#27
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	i have some sponsors that pay that or more. most dont on tgp traffic though.... or they give u some bs number like 2nd page etc __________________ I host with Vacares

08-18-2005, 03:39 AM	#29
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	let's get the popup/exits/upsales/mailouts as revenue source vs rebills rolling here

08-18-2005, 03:49 AM	#30
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	entrance/exit popup revenues ------------------------- When was the last time you saw a popup that draw your attention? More likely a long time ago. Guess what, same happens with the average surfer. Add on this the huge % of people that block popups and those that get very annoyed by them..... these factors have drop the popup revenues A LOT. I currently buy myself almost all the popup inventory of one of 10 largest adult sponsors so I can fairly comment on this. I see some sponsors offer up to $10 payout difference between popup and non-popup tours. Maybe they won't like it, but it's ridiculous claim.

08-18-2005, 09:01 AM	#32
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	upsales revenues ------------------- Members areas have valuable traffic. It's equivalent to AVS traffic. CC holders browsing porn in both cases. All great so far, but putting the numbers down you'll see upsales cannot be such a significant % of the overall value of your clients. This used to be different in the past when optin mailing was going strong, but not anymore. I'll come this in a bit. in the meantime check sig!

08-18-2005, 09:11 AM	#34
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	I've got sponsors doing way better than .08, just not on TGP.

08-18-2005, 09:18 AM	#35
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	on the large portion of my SE traffic I don't even do 8 cents a unique lol i mean... i got sponsors doing anywhere from 10-50 cents a unique but this is not the average 8 cents on TGP - if true- is awesome

08-18-2005, 09:40 AM	#36
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Trax, if you mean from seo it's result of various type of queries which is harder to convert, but volume makes up. If celeb traffic is large part of it I'll join your club, since the ratios I'm getting from ALL sponsors are horrible least to say hehe Now if you are reffering to PPC traffic I'm sure you are doing way more on average, since you have a better chance to target the surfers you receive. A teen tgp on our sites will do better than a hardcore tgp by default. I'm sure we do not operate the only paysites where some tgp webmasters do over 8cents/click steadily. Rebills are the secret behind that. Send me an icq msg if you n' I'll show you the difference between Diesel Action and majorty of teen paysites. Last edited by Theo; 08-18-2005 at 09:42 AM..