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Theo 08-17-2005 05:24 AM

How many of you make over 8cents/1st page click on pure tgp traffic?
 
and i'm talking about steadily revenues here. Sponsors can twist the numbers all they want, but if the paysites you promote doesn't rebill like a motherfucker you will not earn not even a portion of the potential value of your surfers regardless if its PPS or revshare.

Hopefully, justsexxx will see this thread and confirm that a large number of Diesel Action affiliates that run tgps making at least 8cents/1st page click.

still not convinced that your tgp traffic will make more money on our hands than 99% of the paysites out there? Contact me on icq and i'll prove you the opposite. :)

pussyluver 08-17-2005 05:29 AM

lots of varibles there. we'd like 8 cents per click on a 300K TGP with a productivity of 500%. 8 cents/click is not typical of tgp traffic and really can't be unlsss one rellay limits traffic and doesn't trade.

Let's add no traps or popup/exit hell.

Now can you still do it.

Theo 08-17-2005 05:42 AM

Obviously i'm not reffering to straight blind linking, but if that 300k tgp was using our FHG I can see the 8cents/click. We don't have popups and we don't have exits/traps.

first step you grab surfers attention. (Too many can do it.)
second step you make him join. (Several can do it)
Third step you make him stay for as long as possible. (Very few can do it)

If we can't bill them the most, we can't make you the most. Some times it gets as simple as that. :)

justsexxx 08-17-2005 05:45 AM

I read this and I can confirm it :-)

soukee 08-17-2005 05:48 AM

I have 0.03 USD/1st page raw in total...

Theo 08-17-2005 05:58 AM

I dont think you are reffering to DA, but regardless I can make you more than that if you contact me. Getting the earnings per unique - first page click I believe is better.

Rui 08-17-2005 06:07 AM

I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S

12clicks 08-17-2005 06:11 AM

how many of you make over .0000008 per visitor to your tgp?

justsexxx 08-17-2005 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S

Stupid you :winkwink: But you can start over now :thumbsup

Jakke PNG 08-17-2005 06:17 AM

I made $25/click yesterday for a certain sponsor, unfortunately my averages are about 3-4c/click.

Oracle Porn 08-17-2005 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soukee
I have 0.03 USD/1st page raw in total...

same here

Theo 08-17-2005 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui
I guess we can call this "incentive-marketing" ;)

I can confirm that at least the VERY VERY old Diesel sites converted pretty well...dunno why i stopped promoting them :S


true, i'm trying to cut this bad habit, but it's not easy hehe


point of thread is that rebills is the only way your traffic will ever reach the potential max. earnings. If you believe the opposite we can discuss it. I'll comment on popups, upsales and emails gathered in a bit. :)

VeriSexy 08-17-2005 06:39 AM

Then why not start a PPC with no ratios :winkwink:

StatsJunky 08-17-2005 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
how many of you make over .0000008 per visitor to your tgp?

I would hope a 100k TGP can atleast make 8 cents/day.

Theo 08-17-2005 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeriSexy
Then why not start a PPC with no ratios :winkwink:

PPC system is great for queries, but for paysite business it's not good imo. As many newbies I started using ppc sponsors believing it was the best for me. At this point of time if i switch my traffic to the best ppc adult sponsors i'll go in debt. Possible a hybrid-ppc could have potentials to be considered close to fair, but in general it's really unfair for both affiliates and sponsors + you have to monitor it for fraud all the day/night.

pussyluver 08-17-2005 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StatsJunky
I would hope a 100k TGP can atleast make 8 cents/day.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Got that beat - whew...

pussyluver 08-17-2005 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
Obviously i'm not reffering to straight blind linking, but if that 300k tgp was using our FHG I can see the 8cents/click. We don't have popups and we don't have exits/traps.

first step you grab surfers attention. (Too many can do it.)
second step you make him join. (Several can do it)
Third step you make him stay for as long as possible. (Very few can do it)

If we can't bill them the most, we can't make you the most. Some times it gets as simple as that. :)


First there are a ton of details - more than we may want to go into here. Geee if every one knew everthing, then it would be harder to make $. FHG have not proven to be that great on conversion for most sponsors. They also represent leakage from an SEO point of view.

Theo 08-17-2005 07:49 AM

Most sponsors wont make you anything close to what i mentioned on tgp traffic. Why? They don't know about traffic and by requesting yours they don't respect it. Hard, but true words.

Theo 08-17-2005 07:51 AM

can you explain me what do you mean with seo leakage and approx. what % of the sales it can represent?

Theo 08-17-2005 08:57 AM

pussyluver still around?

pussyluver 08-17-2005 09:43 AM

Yeah, been working - leave GFY open. I should close it so the green button goes off. Sorry about that.

You claim to know about traffic, then you should know about SEO leakage and FHG. By asking, you send a message. Hate to be ass, but I'll get over it. WTF, it is GFY. The answer is all over the SEO boards and white papers BTW.

I'll look at your program (sponsors program).

Theo 08-17-2005 10:11 AM

I don't claim to know everything and still I don't understand what do you mean. It would help if you explain me and/or poossible the rest. If you believe somehow you are losing sales from this seo leakage by letting us know there are more chances to fix it :)

JD 08-17-2005 10:16 AM

You should give www.makingcoin.com a shot. The new hardcore girls www.tinytobi.com and www.alexa18.com are converting like a mutha

Dalai lama 08-17-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR
You should give www.makingcoin.com a shot. The new hardcore girls www.tinytobi.com and www.alexa18.com are converting like a mutha

lame entry.

AmateurFlix 08-17-2005 10:20 AM

How is someone going to have SEO leakage with FHG's on a separate domain from their paysite?

aleck 08-17-2005 10:29 AM

8cents? not bad. niches?

beemk 08-17-2005 01:39 PM

i have some sponsors that pay that or more. most dont on tgp traffic though.... or they give u some bs number like 2nd page etc

Theo 08-17-2005 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aleck
8cents? not bad. niches?


strictly teen :)

Theo 08-18-2005 03:39 AM

let's get the popup/exits/upsales/mailouts as revenue source vs rebills rolling here

Theo 08-18-2005 03:49 AM

entrance/exit popup revenues
-------------------------

When was the last time you saw a popup that draw your attention? More likely a long time ago. Guess what, same happens with the average surfer. Add on this the huge % of people that block popups and those that get very annoyed by them..... these factors have drop the popup revenues A LOT. I currently buy myself almost all the popup inventory of one of 10 largest adult sponsors so I can fairly comment on this. I see some sponsors offer up to $10 payout difference between popup and non-popup tours. Maybe they won't like it, but it's ridiculous claim.

aleck 08-18-2005 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
strictly teen :)

ouch. thanks

Theo 08-18-2005 09:01 AM

upsales revenues
-------------------
Members areas have valuable traffic. It's equivalent to AVS traffic. CC holders browsing porn in both cases. All great so far, but putting the numbers down you'll see upsales cannot be such a significant % of the overall value of your clients. This used to be different in the past when optin mailing was going strong, but not anymore. I'll come this in a bit.

in the meantime check sig! :)

JD 08-18-2005 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel
strictly teen :)

Like I said. Try the makingcoin chicks.

wedouglas 08-18-2005 09:11 AM

I've got sponsors doing way better than .08, just not on TGP.

Trax 08-18-2005 09:18 AM

on the large portion of my SE traffic I don't even do 8 cents a unique lol
i mean... i got sponsors doing anywhere from 10-50 cents a unique
but this is not the average
8 cents on TGP - if true- is awesome

Theo 08-18-2005 09:40 AM

Trax, if you mean from seo it's result of various type of queries which is harder to convert, but volume makes up. If celeb traffic is large part of it I'll join your club, since the ratios I'm getting from ALL sponsors are horrible least to say hehe

Now if you are reffering to PPC traffic I'm sure you are doing way more on average, since you have a better chance to target the surfers you receive.

A teen tgp on our sites will do better than a hardcore tgp by default. I'm sure we do not operate the only paysites where some tgp webmasters do over 8cents/click steadily. Rebills are the secret behind that. Send me an icq msg if you n' I'll show you the difference between Diesel Action and majorty of teen paysites.


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