Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

like i said man,, let it go... she's already gotten the icq.... just to prove that u dont know shit and keep talkin for no reason...

Originally Posted by Bill308os

It seems to me that if the first half of the paragraph above was what Bobbi was told yesterday morning, followed by an apology, then she probably would have given Al the day to pull off this upload. Instead she was lied to, and it was an all to easily verifiable lie. THAT was when this exploded. I may be new to this site, but I've been getting the play by play on this issue over the last four months. I also know that people in general (including Bobbi) want to avoid drama, particularly when it involves industry reputations and relationships. But I don't care what business you're in; when someone is not performing and at the same time feeding you an obvious line of shit, and after all other methods of resolving the issue have been exhausted, don't be shocked when that shit hits the fan.

Originally Posted by MikeVega

wow ... That was some turn around ... as soon as a few known models came out and said we are no longer going to shoot ...the back peddling started ... I've been guilty of blowing up on GFY but never back peddle ... just roll with it and try to avoid it in the future ... it just looks weak .. :Oh crap

Originally Posted by BradM

Fuck this entire thread. All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know. I'd trust him with my penis. Not that he's ever touched it before, or like I would WANT him to. I am just saying.... shit this sounds bad.

Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

"nothing has been to the expense of my business or reputation."

Originally Posted by BradM

Fuck this entire thread. All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know. I'd trust him with my penis. Not that he's ever touched it before, or like I would WANT him to. I am just saying.... shit this sounds bad.

Originally Posted by BradM

All I know is Allen is one of the most responsible people I know.

Originally Posted by MikeVega

wow ... That was some turn around ... as soon as a few known models came out and said we are no longer going to shoot ...the back peddling started ... I've been guilty of blowing up on GFY but never back peddle ... just roll with it and try to avoid it in the future ... it just looks weak .. :Oh crap

Originally Posted by Big E

Mike, don't get down on him. HE DID THE RIGHT THING.

Fuck all this ego and "looking weak".. REAL men stand up and take responsibility when they make mistakes.

Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

get ur story straight,,, there was only 1 model,,, no one said their no longer gonna shoot.. we dont even shoot for anyone... no one is back peddling,, she was gonna get her pix,, she pissed us off, shit went out of proportion

Originally Posted by shap

I just have to post here.

Al and Vee. I?ve been interested in doing business with you for quite some time. I?ve never had the chance to but I was interested. After this thread that has totally changed. I have to say you?ve been very unprofessional. If you made a deal just stick to it and give the damn content. I don?t care what the story is. Honor the deal. I don?t know Bobbi. But I know E and Dean and both are stand up guys. I think your words to E were ?You?re barking up the wrong tree.? I don?t know but from where I?m sitting I think you are the one barking up the wrong tree.

There are a lot of silent gfy readers that watch how people conduct themselves and choose whether or not to do business with them based on that. I am one of them. We spend huge bucks on content. E spends HUGE bucks on content. And there are many others reading this that do. All of which are coming to the conclusion that they won?t want to ever do business with you if this is how you handle situations. The client is always right and you need to make Bobbi happy instead of coming here and fueling the fire.

Originally Posted by Stewie

Good post... Vanilla was planning to do some shoots with Al next month, but after everything I've read here, I don't think she'll be going. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

You are absolutely right. you're the first person to come out and say things normaly... thats what should of been said from the begining.. calling people out and this and that just angers people.... everyone we have worked with,, from content to any other types of deal have been extremely happy with us...its just this time everything just went out of proportion.. no one is trying to hold anyones stuff.. we are uploading her stuff, it was never deleted,, the fact that she blew everything out of proportion by calling allen out on threads.. believe it or not it pisses people off... and the first thing that comes to a pissed off persons mind is.... pretty much fuck off...

we have been extremely busy in the past few months.. from moving offices to projects on top of projects that we havnt gotten around to some of the stuff that should of been taken care of to begin with. i just didnt like the fact that dean had to come and out of nowhere call us idiots and this and that... in fact in all of deans thread i have given him props on his excelent work.

fact is,, u cant fight fire with fire...

Originally Posted by Big E

Mike, don't get down on him. HE DID THE RIGHT THING.

Fuck all this ego and "looking weak".. REAL men stand up and take responsibility when they make mistakes.

Originally Posted by MikeVega

I agree it went out of proportion and i think you took some heat. I'm not saying that your bad guys or that your company is bad ... I'm just saying that things changed really fast after Stewie said he will not be sending Vanilla to shoot with you guys and Snap said he will no longer work with ya ..

that's what it looked like to me .. I hope you can see how it would look that way ..

Originally Posted by Abyss_Vee

as much as i would like to work with shap, we wont be able to anyway and i do appreciate him complementing our work.,, so its not about that. like i said in previous post,, we havnt shot content for over a year,, just some promo stuff here and there... just to clarify, that is not the reason i stopped this drama,, i just got tired of a thread leading nowhere...

Originally Posted by MikeVega

I hear ya ... i agree it was dragging on and going nowhere .. I'm glad you guys settled it and i wasn't trying to call you out or call ya weak ..

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

http://www.relorow.com/forum/uploads..._untitledw.jpg

See...I told you all that things would be OK. There was nothing to worry about.
We are very sorry for the delay but the product was delivered via the internet
today. You should also receive a CD in the mail with these same images. As soon
as we are able to put our hands on the tracking number... we will provide that
to you. Everyone is happy now yes?

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

From Shap..."I?ve been interested in doing business with you for quite
some time. After this thread that has totally changed."

From Stewie..."Vanilla was planning to do some shoots with Al next
month, but after everything I've read here, I don't think she'll be going."

Vee, you can think what you want but the fact is that your business and
your reputation has been damaged because of this. Shap and Stewie are only
two people who had the balls to post that had thought about doing business
with you in the future but have decided not to after what happened here.
How many other people reading this board have decided to not do business with
you because of this? Give that some thought bro'.........

Originally Posted by Big E

It's a pretty sad situation, but I'm sure it occurs very frequently in the industry. Most models are unable to fight back and we never hear any of this stuff. Bobbi just happens to be a strong-willed woman who has a lot of friends..

Originally Posted by warren

Yeah true, models are fucked about a lot in this biz.

I sent you and icq a few minutes ago did you get it?

Originally Posted by Bobbi Doll

Hey Jen! I didn't know that you were on here...

I love your photos too! And... I think we have a mutual fan guy in common. Do you know Stan? He's sent me your pics before and mentioned you many times. I told him to tell you that I think you are HOT HOT HOT!

I would shoot with you anytime! Let me know. Do you ever get out to Cali?

XoXoX,
BB

Originally Posted by lazycash

Bump till Bobby gets her pics and an apology.

Originally Posted by modeljenhilton

Hey! I just started posting here a few days ago...really cool forum to hang out at. oh yes!! I didn't realize Stan talked to you about me because he is always raving about you to me...haha he is a character for sure! :)

I live in Van. but I got to LA every few months for shoots and fun. I have plans to go out there in Ocotober if you will be around.

I would love to hear your thoughts and reply to my post if you get a chance!!! http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=505592

Originally Posted by Bobbi Doll

Hey Jen,

Yeah... he's quite interesting! Too funny that he's raving about me to you and you to me. Maybe he's trying to hook us up... hahaha! :winkwink:

Anyway, I replied to your post over there so check it out.

And I'd love to hook up and do a shoot if I am around when you come out in October. I know that I am going to be doing some traveling, but hopefully we can coordinate our schedules. If not, put me in for first dibs on your next trip out here. Are you French Canadian or just Canadian? My mom's French Canadian.

XoXoX,
BB

Originally Posted by XBizKristen

Bump for BB...

Originally Posted by modeljenhilton

Awesome! Do you have an email addy? I can let you know when I get my dates figured out. :)

Till I was 14 I was in french immersion in school so I was pretty awesome with it. I still know it and can speak it but not as great...you speak french? I am from Vancouver so not really french canada.=P

P.S. THANK YOU FOR POSTING ON MY THREAD! :thumbsup :) :thumbsup

Originally Posted by XclusiveVeezz

Bump for what? its over

Originally Posted by XBizKristen

Yes, u are right...its been resolved...Im a dunce :) KK

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

Well, at least...partially resolved. I think an apology is in order from Al for
jerking Bobbi around for 4 months before giving her those pics that he owed
her. It wasn't until some of her friends made a big deal of it that he finally
decided to give her what he promised. Had "we" not got involved, he
probably would have screwed her out of those pictures or at least waited
another 4 months to send them over. He ignored her, he lied to her, he insulted
her and then tried to make it seem that it was all her fault that she hadn't
gotten her pics yet. I would say this is only half resolved.......

Originally Posted by XclusiveVeezz

I dont understand why you guys keep on bumping this thread.. its over, so get over it and relax

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

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