I really like your photos Bobbi. I think you do great work.........I would love to do a shoot with you sometime :winkwink:

sorry to hear about the troubles you are having here...

not worth it... nvrmnd

Probably the best summation of this entire thread. :thumbsup

You are by far the best photographer on this board, no doubt about. I would put your un-retouched photos straight out of the camera against almost anyone's (except AaronM, RedEzra, among others) touched up photos here.

i don't really give a fuck if you know who i am.

u impact my biz ZERO.


i just think what has happended here is uncool for bb

Hey Jen! I didn't know that you were on here...

I love your photos too! And... I think we have a mutual fan guy in common. Do you know Stan? He's sent me your pics before and mentioned you many times. I told him to tell you that I think you are HOT HOT HOT!

I would shoot with you anytime! Let me know. Do you ever get out to Cali?

XoXoX,
BB

i've never seen anyones career/credibility go down the shitter faster than in this thread. :(

i think it's a new world record.

sad to watch it in public :(

Thanks for posting on my behalf! I really appreciate it!

I'm actually very curious to know how "sheep" apply to this thread..

Let's see - we're sheep because you won't give Bobbi the pictures you promised her? That can't be right, can it?

Maybe we're sheep because everyone seems to be picking on you in this thread. Perhaps..

Or maybe we're sheep because you're just sick of having to try and defend an indefensible position and everyone knows it. Yeah, that must be it.

What makes it sad is that it was so preventable. (sigh)

Hey Abyss - want this thread to die? Just send the pictures like you said you would.

I've got nothing better to do than to bump this thread all night.. and tomorrow.. and next week.. and next month. Need to make sure every potential model of yours knows that you treat models like shit.

exactly, when there are no more excuses, blame it on teh *sheep* hahahaha

weak.

Shit.. I just realized who you are!

Everyone at Mac and Bumble loves your stuff..! We talk about it all the time.. we should do some business together.. hit me up!

Al and everyone,

I have been watching this thread today and have heard about this as it has been going on, and have a few things to add. But first let me introduce myself. I am a first year photog and friend of Bobbi's, who drove her to Al's shoot and stayed all day. And just for the record, this was four months ago, not three.

The details of the shoot as follows:

Bobbi was top notch and professional, despite it being cold and raining off and on. She showed up on time, did her own makeup, and stayed later than planned, primarily doing some extra shots that Al wanted to do in clothes she had brought along (this was supposed to be for the clients own clothing line). She also did some implied shots when it was my understanding this was supposed to be strictly a fashion shoot. At the end of the day everyone was happy with her and the owner of the mansion and clothing line
was talking about taking US out to his Hollywood club for dinner. To sum up, she did everything that was expected of her and what could be called a few minor extras. She completed her end of the bargain, which ended ON THE DAY OF THE SHOOT.

Al, it is absolutely ludicrous that you can now act like there can be any kind of quid pro quo upon her receiving her pictures. It may be reasonable to ask for a reminder because you are busy, but it has been FOUR MONTHS. You just put this off, forgot it, and then today lied about a "tracking number" on something that had never been sent in the first place. I'm amazed that you can even try to defend yourself on what has been absolutely shameful behavior and what seriously stinks of breach of contract.

And just for the record, Bobbi was out of town on business for less than 9 days. There was no vacation at all. Not that any of this matters one bit, as you have her damn address on the release! But the trip was scheduled for almost a month, as you stated, but things did not happen as planned. How I do know? I picked her up from the airport. Sorry, you lose.

-Bill

P.S. I don't know which of you did it, but a minority number of the pics were screwed up. How do I know? Because the owner was so thrilled that he wanted to see the pics on a laptop as soon as the shoot was over. Digital Rebels can be a little finicky can't they.. In the oft repeated words of many a vet, "Don't lie to me buddy, cuz I was there!"

here's a bump from me too retard... look at the post.. its only ur dumbass and the 3 sheep following... those who know me.. KNOW ME.... this aint jeoperdising shit... all this is just some BS to get herself attention... this is my first useless drama ever...

and IM OUT :321GFY

Ouch. That's gotta hurt..

1500+ views and counting man

Oops.. you spoke too soon.

SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE AND CAN VERIFY THE WHOLE THING.

Don't you just hate when you put your foot so far in your mouth that it comes out your ass?

Your story basically just fell apart. Bobbi is completely in the right here, and you're a liar and a scammer.

You call yourself a PRO photographer and you shoot with a DIGITAL REBEL?!?!? AHAHAHAHAHAHA You've got to be fucking kidding me.. that's a joke right?

This sucks.. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you.

That's a lot of people to see this. Wait until the day crew comes in tomorrow.

Hey Al - was it really worth having everyone see this play out?

ill shoot with a one time use kodak and out anyone you want to shame if theyre up for the challenge bitch :321GFY

as i recall... she told me you're one of his long term members on her site... wtf you know :1orglaugh

There isn't a person here who would take your pictures over Dean's pictures. Dean's stuff blows your stuff OUT OF THE WATER..

is that a challenge?

Ha ha... feeling the heat? Getting a little testy over there.. you don't really have a response to Bobbi getting her pictures so you've got to try and muster up some kind of response.. keep trying though! I'm sure you'll manage something eventually..

You know, you got so royally owned in this thread. I suggest you don't get involved in another piss thread until you get the training wheels taken off.. but you know, it was easy on my part because you ARE completely in the wrong here. You simply can't defend your actions.. there's no justification.

seriously he should of walked away 100 posts ago and just sent the pics to bb, but now he's doing this?

crazy crazy

DID BOBBI STAY AFTER HER PAID SHOOT TO SHOOT WITH YOU (TFP)? Yes.

DID YOU AGREE TO GIVE BOBBI THE IMAGES YOU SHOT OF HER? Yes.

DID BILL WITNESS ALL THIS? Yes.

IS BILL A FRIEND OF BOBBI? Yes.

What does Bill's relationship with Bobbi have to do with you not giving her the images you promised here. Nothing.

Absolutely. Send me 5 of your BEST images and I'll put up 5 of Dean's images and we'll have a poll.

I don't think you want to do this because you'll get smoked. Creamed. At least 70/30 in favor of Dean and you'll be embarassed even further.

As Teddy KGB said, "Just go away on this one. You cannot win."

A Rounders reference, ahaha. Funny.

Now I want a cookie.

http://www.sexyimportbabes.com/image...bbi04thumb.jpg


I'll put the man who took this image up against anyone!


And c'mon people

there are alot of great photographers abound. Dean is one of them. Kelly Lind is another. Many many great photographers. I would like nothing more than to see this challenge happen.

If for nothing else, we will all get to see some great photo's.


I think AL should use the photo's that he is holding from Bobbi in this challenge, that would be quite poetic. .

I know what I saw, which is all I need to know. And evidently you know exactly what I know, as you saw the same damn thing. Did you have any gripe about Bobbi's work that you voiced on the day of the shoot? Anything that would cause her not to be entitled to her pics as you agreed? If so, when and to who did you voice it?

Just admit it, you dropped the ball and now have to own up for it. But rather than just end it, you're attacking anyone that is calling you on your mistake. Does what you asked me change anything at all about you did?

I've only seen that movie about 50 times. :1orglaugh

What's up Sly? Burning the midnight.. err.. 10:13pm oil eh? Friday night - are you waiting for your hot date or did she just leave? Superpimp! :thumbsup

Great movie for poker players. I usually pop it in once a month, was actually going to watch it last night.

It's been years since Friday night has meant anything more to me than just another night. :-)

151.....

I'm sorry...I couldn't stay away.

Look Al, this is not a challenge. What would a challenge prove? That your
better than me? What would being better than me prove? That you can
shit all over your models and get away with it 'cause your better than me?

Two things man...you said in an earlier thread that you've been shooting longer
than me. Since your only 26 years old, that means you've been shooting since
you were 11 years old...or earlier. If you picked up a camera and started
learning to shoot at age 11 or earlier, my hats off to ya' bro' :thumbsup

Secondly, I think your a talented shooter man. I saw what you posted on
Sunny today and I was very impressed. So were a lot of other people who
saw those pics. People were impressed when you posted those pics of Bobbi
back in April. And you gladly thanked them for their positive remarks about
your work with Bobbi. So, you shot Bobbi, got some great pictures, raced
home to post them on GFY, got a bunch of positive response (feels good
doesn't it?) and then you dropped the ball on following thru with your
obligations to Bobbi. You didn't return her calls, her emails or her ICQs. See,
this is the part that I don't understand. Somehow you think that being a
great shooter is all there is to doing business...but your very wrong. People
don't want to do business with a liar, a thief and an all around asshole. It
says on your website...."Our team is experienced, professional, honest,
and hell-bent on producing the finest results possible for our clients." Well,
you've certainly proven otherwise today huh? Bobbi may not be a client but
without models you and your clients have no business. You can't fuck the
models out of what's theirs and expect that word doesn't get around....it will.

I would never say that my work is better than yours Al, cause I'm just a good
ol' humble country boy who tries to do my best. But I will say this.....I would
never jerk a model along for 4 months as you have for some fucking pictures
when I could take 10 minutes to burn a CD and shoot them out the door :disgust

Will woj get one fiddy cheating photographers?

I hear ya.. Saturday night's another story though! Booyakasha! heh heh

151.....

Oh and one more thing, you have yet to refute a single thing I have said. As I said, seems we know the same things...

P.S. I have done a few things to help out Bobbi on her site and therefore have a password. I have been a friend of hers for many years. Second time I ask; what has that to do with anything you did or I said? Happy shooting...

I just have to post here.

Al and Vee. I?ve been interested in doing business with you for quite some time. I?ve never had the chance to but I was interested. After this thread that has totally changed. I have to say you?ve been very unprofessional. If you made a deal just stick to it and give the damn content. I don?t care what the story is. Honor the deal. I don?t know Bobbi. But I know E and Dean and both are stand up guys. I think your words to E were ?You?re barking up the wrong tree.? I don?t know but from where I?m sitting I think you are the one barking up the wrong tree.

There are a lot of silent gfy readers that watch how people conduct themselves and choose whether or not to do business with them based on that. I am one of them. We spend huge bucks on content. E spends HUGE bucks on content. And there are many others reading this that do. All of which are coming to the conclusion that they won?t want to ever do business with you if this is how you handle situations. The client is always right and you need to make Bobbi happy instead of coming here and fueling the fire.

:bowdown

bingo. . . . .

Good post... Vanilla was planning to do some shoots with Al next month, but after everything I've read here, I don't think she'll be going. :2 cents: