well, u have been nothing but professional in this entire thread :thumbsup

He probably fucked up a bunch of the pics and now he is embarrassed to send
them to her. That happened to me once.....when I first started learning to
shoot. I just explained to the girl that I was a beginner and I had my camera
set wrong...she understood. I could have ignored her for a few months and
then told her that I've already sent them off to her and that I'd give her a
tracking number a little later.....but I just thought it best to tell the truth :winkwink:

Hi, can I get the pics you took of Arika a few months ago also?

Thanks! I try!

You know, you might be right about that. Makes sense.. that's probably why he's so pissed it went to the boards - he didn't want it to be known. Too late for that now..

But I still don't get why someone is going to ruin their reputation like this. To trash a model because she's asking for what was promised is such bad taste.

Whoops! The "thanks I try" post was a response to you but I messed it up.

Wow, he's screwing you too? I guess that establishes a pattern with this guy.

Oh well, everyone knows now.. (shrug)

Sorry to hear that newbreed..

honesty is the best policy -period.

i would bet that if that were the case and he told bb, she would of blown the whole thing off

Hmmm.... do I sense a pattern of this behavior here?

Check out my sig :1orglaugh

Ha ha.. you know, it's not the crime but the coverup that always gets 'em! :thumbsup

Interesting!!!!!!!!

K, Al just told me on ICQ that Arika has recieved the pics. She is not here ATM to verify that but as soon as she tells me she finally got them I will post as such. To my knowledge they were never recieved despite a post on another board about (for which the pics were originally to be used on) them with no replies on when they would be delivered or used for promo.

If I am wrong I am wrong, and I will be the first person here to admit that.

Seems Al did deliver the pics to her (as per an ICQ screen shot) so I apologize for bringing it up here. Once I get with Arika that she recieved them I will return here.

i never fuck up my work... NEVER

talk all the shit you guys... im enjoying this alot :thumbsup

So the question becomes why won't he send Bobbi her pictures? Seems like a simple request. It's only been three and a half months..

Yeah... I tend to be pretty laid back about things... it's happened before. It sucks but accidents happen.

If you don't think this is damaging your reputation, you're nuts.

why would u act this way?

in public especially.

you had a chance to recover and be a good guy but you were a smart aleck, then posted
pics: deleted

then act like this is all fun to you all the while saying it's bb's fault but providing zero proof.

wow.

Well I would give my left nut to be as perfect as you Al. I've been learning
to shoot for over 15 years and I still tend to make a mistake every once in
a while.

Any photographer who says that they "NEVER" fuck up once in a while is
certainly not someone you want to do business with. Every shooter fucks
up once in a while but some are not mature enough to admit it.

If they will lie about something as trivial as this, what else will they lie about?

100....,.....

I am not sure, seems like an ego thing at this point. I remember after Arika was shot in Phx. I had to go on anoter board to ask about the pics and I have still to this day not seen them. If he eventually sent them to Arika I am mistaken here, but I have yet to see them.

How long ago were those pics of Arika shot?

Wouldn't be a real thread without 'woj'.. :thumbsup

shots here and there of course you fuck up... but my work as a whole... NEVER... been shooting longer than you have... so please do not talk shit.... last time i ask nicely.

The last show in Phx. But Al sent me a screen shot of an ICQ convo with Arika that shows he eventually sent them to her on May 24th. I don't know the dates of the Phx. show, I just remember starting a thread on WO about them because I was curious. As I said before if I was wrong, I was wrong, and I will admit that here, I just had no idea he actually sent them to her eventually.

That's cutting off your nose to spite your face.. very damaging attitude.

Oh well, doesn't matter.. I would think that Al's done a pretty good job of destroying whatever reputation he's built up in this thread.

Page three bump for ya

You know, you could just end this whole thread by sending the pictures. No one even has to know. Everyone will just stop posting to it.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh





newbreed..m if you DO remember that show... the piece of shit who wanted the pics shot was drunk and harassing the girls and made an ass of himself... and I didn't want to be tied in with a part of that company that did such things to the girls... ask any of the girls that he wanted shot in those clothes... talk to arika and she'll fill you in... or do you want another screencap?

Al I do actually remember all that, and I was not grouping you in with whoever was being drunk or stupid, I had just never seen the pics, that's all, that's it. plain and simple. I have not seen the pics, and I have no clue why if you got the to Arika I was not advised of it. It's really simple here, I had not been clued in that you had finally delivered them.

that's fine.. i get what your saying... you need to understand you did the same thing bobbi did... came right to the boards, rather hitting me up on icq... its all good though... lesson learned.. i hope.

sheeple work against ya to, btw

who are u? and why are you throwing yourself ?

Hey cowboy...take your threatening attitude and shove it up your ass!
Any questions?

I don't give a fuck how long you've been shooting. Everybody makes a mistake
every once in a while - even your stupid ass....that's my fucking point! So,
when you say you NEVER make mistakes...your lying!

Fucking a model out of her pictures and having her jump thru hoops for almost
4 months is absolutely retarded. Someone with as much experience as you have
should know better than this. Bragging that you've been shooting longer than
me even makes you look worse. I would expect even a beginner would
undestand that business is not conducted in this fashion. For a pro shooter...
it's a no-brainer.

I know that your pissed that Bobbi brought this to the boards, but it's your
own damn fault. You can blame everybody else if you want but everybody
who reads this thread will agree that you are the one who dropped the ball
here...not Bobbi. How many emails and ICQ's does she have to send to get
her fucking pictures from you? How many lies are you going to tell her before
you actually follow thru with your obligation to her? Do you treat your clients
this way or only the models that you shoot?

This is my last post on this subject. Bobbi is a friend of mine and I would
love to see her get what's rightfully hers but it seems that your on a mission
to fuck her out of her pictures so you do whatever you think you need to do.
It's photographers like you Al that make the rest of us shooters look bad. I
hope you do the right thing man and take care of your obligation to Bobbi.

:disgust

Jeeeeez!

You post pictures of sheep because you have no excuse for what you've done? Is that all you're capable of?

No Al, I came to the boards after I had exhausted all other methods. I ICQed many times NO RESPONSE... I emailed NO RESPONSE... I called and left messages STILL NO RESPONSE. So I came here...

Vee you are Abyss Al's sheep... so what is your point? You picked a stupid battle to get involved in too. Can't you talk some sense into your partner here?

Uhm, no I didn't. You and Bobbi have different beef, I just wanted to see the pics you shot of my wife for another board because I was curious. I don't have the time to chase you down on ICQ, I forgot you were even on my list. I made a post on the other board since it was a logo or shirt or whatever the pics were taken for. I have to protect my interest and brand, and I have yet to see the pics. There was some drama over whoever else was involved, and I never called on that, I just wanted to see the pics before they were used for any type of promo. You provided a SS that Arika has them, and to my knowledge they were never posted anywhere. As soon as I can verify she has them, as i said before, I will apologize for eluding to we never got them.