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|  08-01-2005, 08:37 PM | #1 | 
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				Please raise your hands if you think i should leave the models at home
			 I just want to know who doesn't think I should bring fun girls to party with? I could save alot of money at internext if I don't bring them. What should I do? | 
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|  08-01-2005, 08:39 PM | #2 | 
| So Fucking What Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island 
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				 | Bring em!!! | 
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|  08-01-2005, 08:41 PM | #3 | 
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				 | don't care one way or the other . .  .even if I was going I don't think any of them would be fucking me . . . | 
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|  08-01-2005, 08:43 PM | #4 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 08:44 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Is it worth it for you to bring them | 
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|  08-01-2005, 08:46 PM | #6 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 08:48 PM | #7 | |
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 That Plan sounds SOLID! Save the dough on the girls, buy a round or two at the bar, save the money and you won't notice a difference. Nobody is sending business because you bring some models. really they are not. 
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|  08-01-2005, 08:49 PM | #8 | 
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				 | leave them home, save the money dude...just buy more alcohol with the money you saved and get everyone loaded | 
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|  08-01-2005, 08:49 PM | #9 | 
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				 | Ive never seen or had one bit of value out of bring a model or models to a show.  Its a huge pain in the ass and very expenses.  Plus, bitches are needy. Leave the models at home and come to do business. The people you really want to do business with dont give a damn about chasing models. Mark my words... you will regret bring them.  
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|  08-01-2005, 08:51 PM | #10 | |
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 True  What if I forget what we are selling? Oh thats right I'm launching some gay sites soon. this sounds like the new plan | |
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|  08-01-2005, 08:52 PM | #11 | 
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				 | I don't care what anybody says.. a bunch of cute models wearing your company shirt and being vocal is top quality branding at a tradeshow. | 
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|  08-01-2005, 08:53 PM | #12 | |
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 how do I know who I should talk to? | |
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|  08-01-2005, 08:55 PM | #13 | |
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 RogerV anyone who has ever paid attention, realizes how much you drink. You will NOT forget what you are selling. The true question is when they are drunk and you are sober as a judge, how much traffic will they commit to sending and follow through with.    
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|  08-01-2005, 08:57 PM | #14 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:01 PM | #15 | 
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				 | Bring them    WG 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:01 PM | #16 | |
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 If you dont know who you should talk to then you really have no business bring models to a show. Didnt you say you have been running paysites for 8 years? Anyways, the last thing i would ever do is let some model represent my business other then a pretty picture on a website.  
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|  08-01-2005, 09:01 PM | #17 | |
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 The problem is I've been doing this since 97 and all the biz was done after we got home and sobered. most of the time everyone is drunk and not talking biz because you have to many people to meet and mingle with. the old suite parties had naked girls running around and doing shows while we talked biz. does anyone remember the naked sushi parties etc. what has happend we are selling Porn? | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:04 PM | #18 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:06 PM | #19 | |
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 I don't have the time to weed thru a 100's of people to find someone with traffic or some biz we can do? | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:08 PM | #20 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:10 PM | #21 | 
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				 | Roger - you and I can do some biz right now. Pre Internext you'll get enough out it to make going to the show look like childsplay. Really. [email protected] - vote for me and all of your wildest dreams will come true. | 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:11 PM | #22 | |
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 but it's sounding like people will just be jealous if I have girls with me so it might not be worth it. this industry has changed so much i think everyone is forgeting what puts food on there table   Shows are a time for bonding and talking some biz but deals are rarely closed there. it's a time to meet people face to face | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:12 PM | #23 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:13 PM | #24 | |
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 1. someone who has observed people in this industry for a long time. 2. You old school guys went WAY too far trying to out do each other. Made the bar of entry into the industry non existant because some of you were lazy while others stupid. You gave away the store to affiliates. What happened to the day when you had to prove you had traffic before anyone would even consider letting you use a set of their photo's?? And for any jackass that disagrees with this, your the problem. If programs were not LAZY or stupid they would have YOUR traffic. And would have had that traffic all along. Instead of doing it right now they are destin to pay a % to companies to write 50.00 checks every two months to 1000's of affiliates who don't know how to promote, let alone promote in an oversaturated market place. </ end rant for now.....to be continued> 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:13 PM | #25 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:13 PM | #26 | 
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				 | The more hot women attending the better 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:14 PM | #27 | 
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				 | 3piece chicken Dinner... so far so good. You make perfect sense. | 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:14 PM | #28 | 
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				 | I have to say, as far as what we talked about the other night.....it's going to be about biz, not drunk sleazy girls! Many of those people don't drink at all, and even the ones that do drink....want this to be about business! I trying to think of a nice way to tell you not to bring them that night.       | 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:14 PM | #29 | |
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 Why when given sound advice do you always come back with questioning people? What does it matter how many shows I have been to? I'm giving you good, sound advice and you can either take it or do what you think is best. Its your money man. I deal with hundreds of models a year and I can tell you, without question what you can expect. If you are just looking for an ego stroke and some girl to wear your tee-shirts then go for it. If you expect that model to have your best interest in mind and be a mouth piece for your program then I know you are barking up the wrong tree. Models at shows may make webmaster all lovey dovey at shows, but what gets them hard all year is great sites that convert. Thats what gets serious webmasters attention. If you want to impress all the kiddies then bring the models. Again, friendly, sound advice. Im not trying to be pissy and I wish you would see my comments as sincere.  
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|  08-01-2005, 09:16 PM | #30 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:17 PM | #31 | |
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 Any time.. I'm always up for making money  | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:18 PM | #32 | |
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 Don't forget! you have said it yourself. This industry has changed. Buy an AD here more webmasters will see it. Hell make a controversial ad here. In the end, take the models. But there is no more man behind the curtin. You know the players and the newbies are too busy looking at your models to learn who they should be WOW'd by at the show. 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:21 PM | #33 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:24 PM | #34 | 
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				 | Bring happiness to the party. Definitely, your presence there won't be enough. 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:27 PM | #35 | 
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				 | only if they are either really easy or want to hang out in our suite.   | 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:29 PM | #36 | |
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 And now it's a hoard of kids looking for a free drinks and a T-shirt so they can impress the kids at the local 7-11 parking lot on Ricer night. And the best part is they are going to blow the 600.00 bucks on a plane ticket and admission so they can have that free beer and get that t-shirt and not learn a damn thing. While the people who WORK in this industry ( yeah there are still some of those) have their private dinners and meetings they pre arranged, all the while hoping like hell that they are left alone long enough by the newbies to hit on one of the 10 attactive women who will be in attendance that they know they shouldn't be hitting on, but will anyway. 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:29 PM | #37 | |
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 I not only try to change with the times I try to always be an innovater and Pioneer. Hence the new program. and if you don't bend you break. | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:30 PM | #38 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:35 PM | #39 | |
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 Roger, if you leave the girls at home I will never send you traffic again  | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:35 PM | #40 | |
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  thats exactly how it goes and I have some really nice dinners to attend  but I also try to entertain everyone who is jsut starting out becasue you never know who's going to be the next big thing. I don't feel as though i'm above others. I give everyone a chance and most know I love to help people. I don't want to be #1 just in the top TEN  | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:38 PM | #41 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:39 PM | #42 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:39 PM | #43 | |
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   Ive never talked shit, only answered your questions. All I know is that you seem to be busting your ass getting your program out there. You say you have been doing this for 8 years, if thats the case, we should be coming to you for with the questions, not you asking us "newbies". See my point? The only thing that makes me hard is money, models dont mean shit to me. But, then again, I shoot them everyday so the "thrill" has been gone for years. Most of us dont care what you drive, who you date or how many chick you bang a week. We just want good sites to promote and programs that we can count on. Thats what earns traffic these days. Again, just my .02. The only thing I really know is models and well, ive told you what i think in this thread. Best of luck in whatever you decide.  
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|  08-01-2005, 09:40 PM | #44 | 
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				 | u have lotza money so better bring them on... 
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|  08-01-2005, 09:41 PM | #45 | |
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 If I can get more rooms I'll bring more either way we will make a pit stop at your party | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:42 PM | #46 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:42 PM | #47 | 
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				 | I am bringing 3 girls. The more the marrier   
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|  08-01-2005, 09:45 PM | #48 | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:46 PM | #49 | |
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  i'm not picky...i haven't had a red head in a while though LOL | |
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|  08-01-2005, 09:49 PM | #50 | |
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 If I had the choice between talking to the person standing at the bar having some drinks or you, someone who is dripping in women (which again is not a bad thing) I would choose the path of least resistance. In some cases you are trying to attract webmasters that maybe shy but could have a ton of traffic... they won't fight past all the girls to meet you for the simple fear of being rejected. Just my  | |
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