RogerV

I just want to know who doesn't think I should bring fun girls to party with?

I could save alot of money at internext if I don't bring them.

What should I do?

xNetworx

Bring em!!!

baddog

don't care one way or the other . . .even if I was going I don't think any of them would be fucking me . . .

RogerV

Webmasters don?t appreciate shit. I?m actually thinking about coming solo save me some money. and I can buy them blowjob shots by the pool and rub there backs for traffic

Pete-KT

Is it worth it for you to bring them

RogerV

I'm just wondering if they would get me more buisness? maybe I'll just have a suite party with no girls and hang out with you guys and talk biz?

3piece chicken Dinner

That Plan sounds SOLID! Save the dough on the girls, buy a round or two at the bar, save the money and you won't notice a difference. Nobody is sending business because you bring some models.





really they are not.

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Jace

leave them home, save the money dude...just buy more alcohol with the money you saved and get everyone loaded

Shooting_Manic

Ive never seen or had one bit of value out of bring a model or models to a show. Its a huge pain in the ass and very expenses. Plus, bitches are needy.

Leave the models at home and come to do business. The people you really want to do business with dont give a damn about chasing models.

Mark my words... you will regret bring them.

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RogerV

True What if I forget what we are selling?
Oh thats right I'm launching some gay sites soon. this sounds like the new plan

xNetworx

I don't care what anybody says.. a bunch of cute models wearing your company shirt and being vocal is top quality branding at a tradeshow.

RogerV

Who's going to know who I am if I don't have my posse of girls wearing PornoPusher shirts?

how do I know who I should talk to?

3piece chicken Dinner

RogerV anyone who has ever paid attention, realizes how much you drink.
You will NOT forget what you are selling. The true question is when they are drunk and you are sober as a judge, how much traffic will they commit to sending and follow through with.

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tony286

I think it doesnt make any deals , its more of a ego stroke for the program owner .Then a serious business tool. Roger I bet you do more serious business and less of the voyeurs.

WiredGuy

Bring them
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Shooting_Manic

If you dont know who you should talk to then you really have no business bring models to a show. Didnt you say you have been running paysites for 8 years?

Anyways, the last thing i would ever do is let some model represent my business other then a pretty picture on a website.

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RogerV

OK who are you? because you must know me well.

The problem is I've been doing this since 97 and all the biz was done after we got home and sobered. most of the time everyone is drunk and not talking biz because you have to many people to meet and mingle with.
the old suite parties had naked girls running around and doing shows while we talked biz. does anyone remember the naked sushi parties etc.

what has happend we are selling Porn?

xNetworx

Lets say you have a newer program like Porno Pushers. The fact is that there are still peeople unfamiliar with this name/brand. Roger can only talk to so many people at once. Friendly models can burn the name "Porno Pushers" into the head of those gawking at and flirting with the models. It makes sense. I swear I think some people are telling you not to bring models becuase they are hating on the dudes that will be attending the show and meeting these girls. And Roger, the naked sushi party in Vegas was hot. I wish I could have been in that suite.

RogerV

The people I should talk to already do biz with me.. how do i attract new business. How many shows have you been to? i can't count them its so many.
I don't have the time to weed thru a 100's of people to find someone with traffic or some biz we can do?

BradM

No one will send you business anyways. It's all steam.

BradM

Roger - you and I can do some biz right now. Pre Internext you'll get enough out it to make going to the show look like childsplay.

Really.

[email protected] - vote for me and all of your wildest dreams will come true.

RogerV

Finally someone gets it. I know most of the people with traffic after doing shows for 9years almost.
but it's sounding like people will just be jealous if I have girls with me so it might not be worth it.

this industry has changed so much i think everyone is forgeting what puts food on there table

Shows are a time for bonding and talking some biz but deals are rarely closed there. it's a time to meet people face to face

RogerV

Sounds great click my link below and call me

3piece chicken Dinner

1. someone who has observed people in this industry for a long time.


2. You old school guys went WAY too far trying to out do each other. Made the bar of entry into the industry non existant because some of you were lazy while others stupid. You gave away the store to affiliates. What happened to the day when you had to prove you had traffic before anyone would even consider letting you use a set of their photo's??

And for any jackass that disagrees with this, your the problem. If programs were not LAZY or stupid they would have YOUR traffic. And would have had that traffic all along. Instead of doing it right now they are destin to pay a % to companies to write 50.00 checks every two months to 1000's of affiliates who don't know how to promote, let alone promote in an oversaturated market place. </ end rant for now.....to be continued>

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BradM

I'll give you a buzz tomorrow, I don't have any of my notes here.

Spunky

The more hot women attending the better

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BradM

3piece chicken Dinner... so far so good. You make perfect sense.

fatal attraction

I have to say, as far as what we talked about the other night.....it's going to be about biz, not drunk sleazy girls! Many of those people don't drink at all, and even the ones that do drink....want this to be about business! I trying to think of a nice way to tell you not to bring them that night.

Shooting_Manic

Why when given sound advice do you always come back with questioning people? What does it matter how many shows I have been to? I'm giving you good, sound advice and you can either take it or do what you think is best. Its your money man.

I deal with hundreds of models a year and I can tell you, without question what you can expect. If you are just looking for an ego stroke and some girl to wear your tee-shirts then go for it. If you expect that model to have your best interest in mind and be a mouth piece for your program then I know you are barking up the wrong tree.

Models at shows may make webmaster all lovey dovey at shows, but what gets them hard all year is great sites that convert. Thats what gets serious webmasters attention. If you want to impress all the kiddies then bring the models.

Again, friendly, sound advice. Im not trying to be pissy and I wish you would see my comments as sincere.

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tony286

I highly doubt no one ever did business with any one because they had pretty girls at a show or because of the parties they threw or the free meals. Its the money a program makes someone or the service a business provides. The rest is ego shit .

RogerV

Any time.. I'm always up for making money

3piece chicken Dinner

Don't forget! you have said it yourself. This industry has changed. Buy an AD here more webmasters will see it. Hell make a controversial ad here.



In the end, take the models. But there is no more man behind the curtin. You know the players and the newbies are too busy looking at your models to learn who they should be WOW'd by at the show.

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RogerV

thats the damn truth. I remember back in the day I would take the big players out to dinner and pay for it. because i was learning from them and they gave me advice. I felt that was the least I could do.

PixeLs

Bring happiness to the party. Definitely, your presence there won't be enough.

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Make money on any traffic.
Bi-weekly payments with no hold.

Why

only if they are either really easy or want to hang out in our suite.

3piece chicken Dinner

And now it's a hoard of kids looking for a free drinks and a T-shirt so they can impress the kids at the local 7-11 parking lot on Ricer night. And the best part is they are going to blow the 600.00 bucks on a plane ticket and admission so they can have that free beer and get that t-shirt and not learn a damn thing. While the people who WORK in this industry ( yeah there are still some of those) have their private dinners and meetings they pre arranged, all the while hoping like hell that they are left alone long enough by the newbies to hit on one of the 10 attactive women who will be in attendance that they know they shouldn't be hitting on, but will anyway.

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RogerV

I think the way I read your post I feel like your always attacking me but I can see your not now. thanks for the advice.I've always been respectfull to everyone thats why it pisses me off when people talk shit

I not only try to change with the times I try to always be an innovater and Pioneer. Hence the new program. and if you don't bend you break.

RogerV

Normally I have 3 hawaiin tropic girls but this time its going to be crazy college chicks who want to party

esnem

you're a fucking idiot, mark my words...

Roger, if you leave the girls at home I will never send you traffic again

RogerV

OK who are you damn it? thats exactly how it goes and I have some really nice dinners to attend but I also try to entertain everyone who is jsut starting out becasue you never know who's going to be the next big thing. I don't feel as though i'm above others.

I give everyone a chance and most know I love to help people.

I don't want to be #1 just in the top TEN

RogerV

OK because you send me a shit load of sales i have to listen. Blond, brunette or red head

Why

well double the girl count, tell them they have to attend our party and run around naked, and ill split the cost of getting them in with you

Shooting_Manic

Ive never attacked you once. You ask a ton of questions in your threads and I give you my thoughts and advice. Sometimes I wonder why you ask the questions because you get all pissed when you dont agree with all the answers.

Ive never talked shit, only answered your questions.

All I know is that you seem to be busting your ass getting your program out there. You say you have been doing this for 8 years, if thats the case, we should be coming to you for with the questions, not you asking us "newbies". See my point?

The only thing that makes me hard is money, models dont mean shit to me. But, then again, I shoot them everyday so the "thrill" has been gone for years. Most of us dont care what you drive, who you date or how many chick you bang a week. We just want good sites to promote and programs that we can count on. Thats what earns traffic these days.

Again, just my .02.


The only thing I really know is models and well, ive told you what i think in this thread.

Best of luck in whatever you decide.

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Digibucks

u have lotza money so better bring them on...

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RogerV

I have 4 and just got TripleXcash 3 girls

If I can get more rooms I'll bring more either way we will make a pit stop at your party

Shooting_Manic

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wargames

I am bringing 3 girls. The more the marrier

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we have rooms at the beach property and the country club

esnem

i'm not picky...i haven't had a red head in a while though LOL

Princess Ellisa

Well since you are asking for advice I would think you may find your trip more productive without the models. Nothing against the models they all serve their purposes but ultimately they make it hard to do business with you cuz they are always in the way.

If I had the choice between talking to the person standing at the bar having some drinks or you, someone who is dripping in women (which again is not a bad thing) I would choose the path of least resistance.

In some cases you are trying to attract webmasters that maybe shy but could have a ton of traffic... they won't fight past all the girls to meet you for the simple fear of being rejected.

Just my

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