As long as we're outting pushy guys at the show... - GoFuckYourself.com

chase · 08-08-2005, 09:55 AM

I was partying up at the Amateur Bash suite party Friday night, and these three Spanish guys showed up. One of them gave me his biz card; it was Jason Torres from Zantafe Films, www.zantafe-films.com , and I think he said something about being in mainstream biz and starting to cross over, but after 11 screwdrivers, what he said isn't that clear to me.

What he DID, however, is.

He sat next to me on the sofa inside and asked if he could kiss me, which I said NO to. Apparently his English was not so good at that point, though it had been fine before, because he tried anyway. I pushed him away, and he tried at least twice more, actually grabbing my head while I pushed him and twisted my face away, and mashed my lips together.

You know, I was raped when I was 19...I know a forced kiss is nothing compared to that. But it was scary to not be in control of who I kiss...and it brought back a flood of bad memories at that moment...and the thought of what could have happened if I was by myself down by the pool or something is pretty frightening.

Come to find out, one of the guys in that same trio was acting aggressively towards another woman there as well. (I don't want to mention her name because it is her place to come forward with what happened to her, not mine.) I don't know if it was the same guy or not. Now it's pretty obvious that Aaron's model was also handled disrespectfully, though who knows if it was the same person.

What I do know is that when I tell a man No, it means, No. It may possibly mean just mean not right now if it is someone I am interested in, but the bottom line is that I do not want to do something, and forcing, pressuring, or being aggressive with me to get me (or ANY girl, which is my point here), to comply is wrong. How would you like it if a guy wanted to press you for sex and wouldn't take no for an answer?

I do realize that most of you guys get this, but for the few who seem to think a NO means just try harder, I thought you should get a woman's point of view. Having a woman have sex with you because you pressured them into it is a hollow victory. And chances are good she'll regret it, and never touch you again, and tell all her friends to avoid you.

I've had my head slammed into a wall and had a man tear my pants off and force himself inside me...it was far beyond a physical pain. It hurt my soul that something I have was stolen from me, and I was completely out of my own control. I felt filthy, violated, exposed, betrayed, and I was mad at myself for not being strong enough to fight him off. I felt guilty and stupid for hanging out with him, because I thought I should have known better, even though there was no warning at all of what he would do. I was scared he had given me HIV or another incurable STD, or even one that is curable, (thank God he didn't!); and I was scared I would get pregnant and have to either live with seeing the product of that awful moment every day for the rest of my life and not let it affect my parenting, or else give my child to someone else to raise. My sex drive was nonexistant for close to a year after that, because I couldn't imagine being able to have sex without it reminding me. I couldn't trust a man for much longer, because I knew how easy it is to get fooled by someone. It's something that can make or break you...I was broken for a while, but I decided that continuing to live in fear, and letting what happened to me ruin the rest of my life was not what I wanted. I made a mistake in trusting him, but it was NOT my fault that he made the decision he did, and I was not going to pay penance forever. I have a life to live. Some girls aren't able to find that inside themselves, and they punish themselves with isolation, drug abuse, abusive men, cutting, eating disorders, putting on weight, and a multitude of other ways.

I'm seriously disturbed by this trend of men getting pushy with women at the shows. Like I said in Aaron's thread, I attend shows alone, because I like the freedom to bounce from group to group and spend time with everyone. I think next year I may just pay a sitter and bring my ex with me, so I have an escort. (BTW anyone needing stunt cocks in Vegas, he's got a big cock and can perform on cam, hahaha! Just trying to bring some levity into the discussion, lol, though I do mean what I said, lol.)

I am happy to see so many men in the industry frown upon this sort of bad behaviour. Maybe if the message is sent that anyone who mistreats a model, female webmaster, affiliate rep, etc. won't be considered for business, it will sink in that it is not ok to push yourself on a girl just because she is attending an adult convention.

Fletch XXX · 08-08-2005, 09:57 AM

blame tt boy and aggressive sex movies!!!!

MickeyG · 08-08-2005, 09:57 AM

well said. I'm sorry you had to go through such things.

After Shock Media · 08-08-2005, 09:58 AM

Thanks for speaking up.

El Duderino · 08-08-2005, 10:01 AM

sorry to hear that

Anthony · 08-08-2005, 10:01 AM

Hearing things like this pisses me off. Big ups to you Chase to come public with it.

wedouglas · 08-08-2005, 10:04 AM

that is very unfortunate. some people...

not to show any respect towards that persn, but who ever designed that site did a really nice job.

Forest · 08-08-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Hearing things like this pisses me off. Big ups to you Chase to come public with it.

Too bad ant and I wernt there

We could have removed the offender

Fucking asshat

Shooting_Manic · 08-08-2005, 10:11 AM

Sorry to hear... thats total bullshit. Maybe parties like these need some sort of security from now on.

tungsten · 08-08-2005, 10:18 AM

sorry to hear and we now know who's ass to kick

JUSTB · 08-08-2005, 10:20 AM

I'm sorry you had a bad experience and I'm glad you're OK!

NickPapageorgio · 08-08-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wedouglas

that is very unfortunate. some people...

not to show any respect towards that persn, but who ever designed that site did a really nice job.

Looks like a flash template that you could download from any template site for about $40. Nothing special. Infact, pretty slow for so little actual animation...

Tala · 08-08-2005, 10:23 AM

Holy shit hon. I'm glad you're okay, and thanks for outting this motherfucker. I have a bad habit of clobbering people who try that shit with me. Or maybe it's a good habit....anyhoo, big props to you for being strong enough to warn others about this asshat.

wedouglas · 08-08-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

Looks like a flash template that you could download from any template site for about $40. Nothing special. Infact, pretty slow for so little actual animation...

I always click HTML versions, so maybe I just never see ones like this. not slow for me however.

LauraLee · 08-08-2005, 10:34 AM

Awful to hear the suffering you have lived thru.
I hope that the remainder of your life is filled with positive blessings.

Snake Doctor · 08-08-2005, 10:37 AM

Sorry to hear that Chase. It really sucks the perception people have of you just because of association.

georgeyw · 08-08-2005, 10:42 AM

Well said Chase.

I was in sth america for a few months earlier this year and it the guys seem a WHOLE lot more aggressive when it comes to courting women. Almost got in a number of fights trying to get the girls we went to clubs with back to our hostel. Guys would just grab them and force them to kiss them. Unbelieveable!!!

Kevsh · 08-08-2005, 10:50 AM

I remember these guys at the show, he passed me a biz card at the hotel - it's safe to say it's now toilet paper.

BuggyG · 08-08-2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Hearing things like this pisses me off. Big ups to you Chase to come public with it.

yup.. same here
took alot to speak up.. cause never know how people here will react.. from past examples.. too many times.. always find some fucker who sides with the other side who cmmits some fucking stupid act

but glad you came out and applaud you for doing it

tASSy · 08-08-2005, 11:11 AM

aww sorry to hear this chase =( some guy mooooshed his face against my boob a couple times while i was having my picture taken with him and i had that gross icky feeling too. ironically, this only happens to me when Halcyon happens to be looking the other way - some men are just pussies.

chase · 08-08-2005, 11:12 AM

I want to add that the people up in the AB suite were quick to address the situation with the other girl...it was while they were being told that the guy got pushy with me, and as soon as I got away from him the three of them were sent out...so it's not like people were just sitting around letting it happen...I didn't mean to make it sound like that was the case. It if did, I apologize.

Also, I'm Latina, too, so I obviously didn't mean anything by mentioning they were Spanish...just wanted to clear that up too. I should reread my posts before I post them in the future, lol.

They say that one in four women will be raped. I'd feel safe saying that ALL of us will face a threatening situation at least once in our lives. I'm not alone, by any means, and some girls go through much worse. My best friend from high school was dragged into a half-built home while she was walking home from the bus stop and brutally gang-raped and beaten. I didn't think she was ever going to be the same..and you know, she really never has been the same, though she manages to get by.

Anyway, thanks for the kind comments....it was in the past, and it helped shaped the person I am today, and I'm, for the most part, pretty proud of who I am today. You just have to move on when bad things happen, or else the bad thing will never stop happening.

I just want these guys to be held accountable for their actions, and I knew there was a chance it wouldn't matter to some...but it was worth the risk.

pussyluver · 08-08-2005, 11:19 AM

Thanks for speaking up. This needed to be talked about. Maybe some will get a clue...

Anthony · 08-08-2005, 11:21 AM

Chase,

If I'm ever around, all you have to do is nod. You were awesome to chat with at China White, and though we were both exhasuted on the bus ride home, you were definately a cool chica!

Keep you head up, more of us will be looking for this next show for sure.

Tim · 08-08-2005, 11:22 AM

Really sorry to hear this

chase · 08-08-2005, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tASSy

aww sorry to hear this chase =( some guy mooooshed his face against my boob a couple times while i was having my picture taken with him and i had that gross icky feeling too. ironically, this only happens to me when Halcyon happens to be looking the other way - some men are just pussies.

It's one thing when someone you know and share some camradarie with poses like that...but when someone you don't know and just haven't built up to that comfort level with assumes that because he's seen pics of your tits he is welcome to touch them, it makes you feel dirty somehow. I used to have my own site and I don't know about you, but I know I always felt a twinge of guilt like I deserved it because I had teased him or something, but that's dead wrong. NO ONE has the right to touch because they've seen pics.

People need to get a clue.

emthree · 08-08-2005, 11:30 AM

I hope you spoke up about it there and then as well. It's a sad reality, but things like that are more common than we all know.

BTW: It's kind of creepy reading that story, without knowing you're a female.

chase · 08-08-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Chase,

If I'm ever around, all you have to do is nod. You were awesome to chat with at China White, and though we were both exhasuted on the bus ride home, you were definately a cool chica!

Keep you head up, more of us will be looking for this next show for sure.

Thanks, Anthony, it was great to meet and chill with you, too!

I had SO much fun at that party! Anyone who says fat chicks have no stamina should have seen me dancing for nearly five hours staright, lol!

Pete-KT · 08-08-2005, 11:42 AM

When a girl says NO it means NO, I dont understand whats so hard about guys understanding that

chase · 08-08-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by emthree

I hope you spoke up about it there and then as well. It's a sad reality, but things like that are more common than we all know.

BTW: It's kind of creepy reading that story, without knowing you're a female.

Before I said anything they were gone, because it was the same group who harassed the other girl. I did speak up when I realized that, though.

You know, I can't even tell you how many people were surprised when they met me, lol. A lot of folks think I'm a guy. Guess they'll be surprised when the pics start showing up, lolol!

fatal attraction · 08-08-2005, 11:53 AM

I'm the other girl, I don't really want to get into the details though. Except that all three pricks where involved in my situation. All that had to be said was that I was scared and Brent and Charlie jumped up and said who? And it was handled. Huge thanks to Karups and Dormbucks for the way they handled the situation.

12clicks · 08-08-2005, 12:08 PM

uh, you're saying this on a board that actually made fun of me for not mauling 2 girls I was having my picture taken with.

robfantasy · 08-08-2005, 12:17 PM

post pics please

BradShaw · 08-08-2005, 12:20 PM

Thats why I no longer go to shows, too many men trying to do mean things to me.

CashLikeWhoa_Mike · 08-08-2005, 12:22 PM

Chase, great meeting you at the show. You have a fan

Sorry to hear you had to experience that. And good for you for speaking out about it. At future shows if you have a problem like that with somebody and need help with anything, let me know. I'll help you out....

Sly · 08-08-2005, 12:51 PM

You know Chase, if anybody ever gives you trouble all you need to do is speak up and they'll be taken care of and I guarantee you'll be treated like a queen the rest of the night. There may be some pricks about, but there are also a lot of really great people that wouldn't hesitate to help a troubled person out. Just say the word.

mardigras · 08-08-2005, 12:57 PM

Too bad you didn't have a keychain pepper spray. I bet he wouldn't have given you a reason to use it once you pulled it out

SykkBoy · 08-08-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BradShaw

Thats why I no longer go to shows, too many men trying to do mean things to me.

yeah, but kissing probably isn't one of them....

Chase, sorry to hear about the problem..it seems some people were raised with no manners nor regard for anyone else...also, thanks for outing this prick....he needs to be shunned and lose every bit of business he has or hopes to have in this industry for what he did....and people wonder why I want out of this business...

V_RocKs · 08-08-2005, 01:27 PM

Wish I would have went to the show... I am a stalker of stalkers... I don't know why but I get a kick out of kicking someones ass for stalking someone else...

Ain't your fault someone is an asshole, Chase. Quit appoligizing.

Xenophage · 08-08-2005, 01:32 PM

thats fucked up.. always someone has to fuck up the shows

LadyMischief · 08-08-2005, 01:45 PM

That really sucks... what are models and webmistresses supposed to take mace with them on the show floor and to parties now? I'd hope that anyone seeing this type of behavior would have something to say about it, and most like Aaron and some other chivalrous gentlemen will. There needs to be more ostracism of these types of people and this type of behavior.. it's almost a double standard.. it's ok to do it on film but not at shows. Some people are too stupid to make the distinction and it needs to be made for them.

JMM · 08-08-2005, 01:52 PM

This question isn't aimed at all of you, just most of you.

I am curious, which side of your mouth do you eat with? Or am I to assume since you talk out of both sides, you use both sides to eat as well.

Like I said, just curious.

V_RocKs · 08-08-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

This question isn't aimed at all of you, just most of you.

I am curious, which side of your mouth do you eat with? Or am I to assume since you talk out of both sides, you use both sides to eat as well.

Like I said, just curious.

I chew primarily with the left side, but the food enters slightly off to the right...

I talk straight out the middle.

V_RocKs · 08-08-2005, 02:05 PM

If anyone wants to kick the guys ass or something or just say hello...

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Expiry Date.......... 2005-08-29
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Elli · 08-08-2005, 02:08 PM

That's awful, Chase. It was great to hang with you at China White and I wish we had talked more, but it was a bit loud. I'm glad the guys got called on it, but it really shouldn't happen in the first place. I think I've just lucked out that it hasn't happened to me yet, considering how it seems to happen to someone every show.

Ordo · 08-08-2005, 02:11 PM

Pretty shitty.

You should have grabbed his sack and lead him into a wall.

V_RocKs · 08-08-2005, 02:17 PM

Anyone want his pic posted?

chase · 08-08-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Anyone want his pic posted?

If you have it, cool...let the ladies know who to watch out for.

K R I S T E N · 08-08-2005, 03:17 PM

omg...i know EXACTLY who you are talking about! they were terribly aggressive...i attributed it more towards their culture however. glad you shared this w/ us...we must watch out for those who may harm us!

Hustlin Entertainment · 08-08-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XBizKristen

omg...i know EXACTLY who you are talking about! they were terribly aggressive...i attributed it more towards their culture however. glad you shared this w/ us...we must watch out for those who may harm us!

Excuse yourself, don't fucking start this ignorant racial shit just because some drunk asshole was hitting on the girl.......Yea one guy does something, let's start looking at the culture as a whole, you really need to Shut The Fuck Up!

Regards

JMM · 08-08-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hustlin Entertainment

Excuse yourself, don't fucking start this ignorant racial shit just because some drunk asshole was hitting on the girl.......Yea one guy does something, let's start looking at the culture as a whole, you really need to Shut The Fuck Up!

Regards

She didn't say RACE, she said CULTURE, and it's a valid statement and observation. RACE and CULTURE are two different things. Different cultures have very different courting rituals, just as different animal species have different courting/mating rituals. I am not adding any validity to the actions of those involved, however, in pointing out the differences in two parties cultures, one can better understand their actions. Again, that is no excuse if they stepped over the line, which it sounds like they certainly did, but what is aggressive to one culture, may be perfectly normal to another.

No need to play the race card.

08-08-2005, 09:55 AM	#1
chase Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,019	As long as we're outting pushy guys at the show... I was partying up at the Amateur Bash suite party Friday night, and these three Spanish guys showed up. One of them gave me his biz card; it was Jason Torres from Zantafe Films, www.zantafe-films.com , and I think he said something about being in mainstream biz and starting to cross over, but after 11 screwdrivers, what he said isn't that clear to me. What he DID, however, is. He sat next to me on the sofa inside and asked if he could kiss me, which I said NO to. Apparently his English was not so good at that point, though it had been fine before, because he tried anyway. I pushed him away, and he tried at least twice more, actually grabbing my head while I pushed him and twisted my face away, and mashed my lips together. You know, I was raped when I was 19...I know a forced kiss is nothing compared to that. But it was scary to not be in control of who I kiss...and it brought back a flood of bad memories at that moment...and the thought of what could have happened if I was by myself down by the pool or something is pretty frightening. Come to find out, one of the guys in that same trio was acting aggressively towards another woman there as well. (I don't want to mention her name because it is her place to come forward with what happened to her, not mine.) I don't know if it was the same guy or not. Now it's pretty obvious that Aaron's model was also handled disrespectfully, though who knows if it was the same person. What I do know is that when I tell a man No, it means, No. It may possibly mean just mean not right now if it is someone I am interested in, but the bottom line is that I do not want to do something, and forcing, pressuring, or being aggressive with me to get me (or ANY girl, which is my point here), to comply is wrong. How would you like it if a guy wanted to press you for sex and wouldn't take no for an answer? I do realize that most of you guys get this, but for the few who seem to think a NO means just try harder, I thought you should get a woman's point of view. Having a woman have sex with you because you pressured them into it is a hollow victory. And chances are good she'll regret it, and never touch you again, and tell all her friends to avoid you. I've had my head slammed into a wall and had a man tear my pants off and force himself inside me...it was far beyond a physical pain. It hurt my soul that something I have was stolen from me, and I was completely out of my own control. I felt filthy, violated, exposed, betrayed, and I was mad at myself for not being strong enough to fight him off. I felt guilty and stupid for hanging out with him, because I thought I should have known better, even though there was no warning at all of what he would do. I was scared he had given me HIV or another incurable STD, or even one that is curable, (thank God he didn't!); and I was scared I would get pregnant and have to either live with seeing the product of that awful moment every day for the rest of my life and not let it affect my parenting, or else give my child to someone else to raise. My sex drive was nonexistant for close to a year after that, because I couldn't imagine being able to have sex without it reminding me. I couldn't trust a man for much longer, because I knew how easy it is to get fooled by someone. It's something that can make or break you...I was broken for a while, but I decided that continuing to live in fear, and letting what happened to me ruin the rest of my life was not what I wanted. I made a mistake in trusting him, but it was NOT my fault that he made the decision he did, and I was not going to pay penance forever. I have a life to live. Some girls aren't able to find that inside themselves, and they punish themselves with isolation, drug abuse, abusive men, cutting, eating disorders, putting on weight, and a multitude of other ways. I'm seriously disturbed by this trend of men getting pushy with women at the shows. Like I said in Aaron's thread, I attend shows alone, because I like the freedom to bounce from group to group and spend time with everyone. I think next year I may just pay a sitter and bring my ex with me, so I have an escort. (BTW anyone needing stunt cocks in Vegas, he's got a big cock and can perform on cam, hahaha! Just trying to bring some levity into the discussion, lol, though I do mean what I said, lol.) I am happy to see so many men in the industry frown upon this sort of bad behaviour. Maybe if the message is sent that anyone who mistreats a model, female webmaster, affiliate rep, etc. won't be considered for business, it will sink in that it is not ok to push yourself on a girl just because she is attending an adult convention. __________________ Need Hosting? Reality Check Network services me purrrfectly!

08-08-2005, 09:57 AM	#2
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08-08-2005, 09:58 AM	#4
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08-08-2005, 10:11 AM	#9
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08-08-2005, 10:18 AM	#10
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08-08-2005, 09:57 AM	#3
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	well said. I'm sorry you had to go through such things.

08-08-2005, 10:01 AM	#5
El Duderino Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 835	sorry to hear that

08-08-2005, 10:01 AM	#6
Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	Hearing things like this pisses me off. Big ups to you Chase to come public with it.

08-08-2005, 10:04 AM	#7
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	that is very unfortunate. some people... not to show any respect towards that persn, but who ever designed that site did a really nice job.

08-08-2005, 10:20 AM	#11
JUSTB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: tampa Posts: 1,740	I'm sorry you had a bad experience and I'm glad you're OK!

08-08-2005, 10:23 AM	#13
Tala Fucked if I know Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Do you have a flag? Posts: 23,368	Holy shit hon. I'm glad you're okay, and thanks for outting this motherfucker. I have a bad habit of clobbering people who try that shit with me. Or maybe it's a good habit....anyhoo, big props to you for being strong enough to warn others about this asshat. __________________ ICQ: 11120676 \| Google: mindcrime \| Skype: suitemindcrime\|E-Mail: mindcrime AT gmail.com\|PR girl with great writing skills for hire!!!! Contact me to work for YOU!\|TECHIEMEDIA? 24/7 support from some of the best techs in the biz. Tell Jim that I sent you.

08-08-2005, 10:34 AM	#15
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08-08-2005, 10:37 AM	#16
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Sorry to hear that Chase. It really sucks the perception people have of you just because of association.

08-08-2005, 10:42 AM	#17
georgeyw 58008 53773 Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 9,864	Well said Chase. I was in sth america for a few months earlier this year and it the guys seem a WHOLE lot more aggressive when it comes to courting women. Almost got in a number of fights trying to get the girls we went to clubs with back to our hostel. Guys would just grab them and force them to kiss them. Unbelieveable!!! __________________ TripleXPrint on Megan Fox "I would STILL suck her pussy until her face caved in. And then blow her up and do it again!"

08-08-2005, 10:50 AM	#18
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	I remember these guys at the show, he passed me a biz card at the hotel - it's safe to say it's now toilet paper.

08-08-2005, 11:11 AM	#20
tASSy Spread The Pink! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: pinktown! Posts: 8,229	aww sorry to hear this chase =( some guy mooooshed his face against my boob a couple times while i was having my picture taken with him and i had that gross icky feeling too. ironically, this only happens to me when Halcyon happens to be looking the other way - some men are just pussies. __________________ tassyPINK ICQ ~ 318097066 *

08-08-2005, 11:12 AM	#21
chase Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,019	I want to add that the people up in the AB suite were quick to address the situation with the other girl...it was while they were being told that the guy got pushy with me, and as soon as I got away from him the three of them were sent out...so it's not like people were just sitting around letting it happen...I didn't mean to make it sound like that was the case. It if did, I apologize. Also, I'm Latina, too, so I obviously didn't mean anything by mentioning they were Spanish...just wanted to clear that up too. I should reread my posts before I post them in the future, lol. They say that one in four women will be raped. I'd feel safe saying that ALL of us will face a threatening situation at least once in our lives. I'm not alone, by any means, and some girls go through much worse. My best friend from high school was dragged into a half-built home while she was walking home from the bus stop and brutally gang-raped and beaten. I didn't think she was ever going to be the same..and you know, she really never has been the same, though she manages to get by. Anyway, thanks for the kind comments....it was in the past, and it helped shaped the person I am today, and I'm, for the most part, pretty proud of who I am today. You just have to move on when bad things happen, or else the bad thing will never stop happening. I just want these guys to be held accountable for their actions, and I knew there was a chance it wouldn't matter to some...but it was worth the risk. __________________ Need Hosting? Reality Check Network services me purrrfectly!

08-08-2005, 11:19 AM	#22
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Thanks for speaking up. This needed to be talked about. Maybe some will get a clue...

08-08-2005, 11:21 AM	#23
Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	Chase, If I'm ever around, all you have to do is nod. You were awesome to chat with at China White, and though we were both exhasuted on the bus ride home, you were definately a cool chica! Keep you head up, more of us will be looking for this next show for sure.

08-08-2005, 11:22 AM	#24
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08-08-2005, 11:30 AM	#26
emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	I hope you spoke up about it there and then as well. It's a sad reality, but things like that are more common than we all know. BTW: It's kind of creepy reading that story, without knowing you're a female. __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •

08-08-2005, 11:42 AM	#28
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	When a girl says NO it means NO, I dont understand whats so hard about guys understanding that

08-08-2005, 11:53 AM	#30
fatal attraction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: where ever he is! Posts: 6,522	I'm the other girl, I don't really want to get into the details though. Except that all three pricks where involved in my situation. All that had to be said was that I was scared and Brent and Charlie jumped up and said who? And it was handled. Huge thanks to Karups and Dormbucks for the way they handled the situation.

08-08-2005, 12:08 PM	#31
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	uh, you're saying this on a board that actually made fun of me for not mauling 2 girls I was having my picture taken with. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

08-08-2005, 12:17 PM	#32
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08-08-2005, 12:20 PM	#33
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Thats why I no longer go to shows, too many men trying to do mean things to me.

08-08-2005, 12:22 PM	#34
CashLikeWhoa_Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,202	Chase, great meeting you at the show. You have a fan Sorry to hear you had to experience that. And good for you for speaking out about it. At future shows if you have a problem like that with somebody and need help with anything, let me know. I'll help you out.... __________________ --Making serious money for our online partners since 2001-- --Home of the Best Converting Solo Ethnic Girls on the Net-- --ICQ me anytime at 637426291 for help--

08-08-2005, 12:51 PM	#35
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,333	You know Chase, if anybody ever gives you trouble all you need to do is speak up and they'll be taken care of and I guarantee you'll be treated like a queen the rest of the night. There may be some pricks about, but there are also a lot of really great people that wouldn't hesitate to help a troubled person out. Just say the word. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

08-08-2005, 12:57 PM	#36
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	Too bad you didn't have a keychain pepper spray. I bet he wouldn't have given you a reason to use it once you pulled it out __________________ .

08-08-2005, 01:27 PM	#38
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Wish I would have went to the show... I am a stalker of stalkers... I don't know why but I get a kick out of kicking someones ass for stalking someone else... Ain't your fault someone is an asshole, Chase. Quit appoligizing.

08-08-2005, 01:32 PM	#39
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	thats fucked up.. always someone has to fuck up the shows

08-08-2005, 01:45 PM	#40
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	That really sucks... what are models and webmistresses supposed to take mace with them on the show floor and to parties now? I'd hope that anyone seeing this type of behavior would have something to say about it, and most like Aaron and some other chivalrous gentlemen will. There needs to be more ostracism of these types of people and this type of behavior.. it's almost a double standard.. it's ok to do it on film but not at shows. Some people are too stupid to make the distinction and it needs to be made for them. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

08-08-2005, 01:52 PM	#41
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08-08-2005, 02:05 PM	#43
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08-08-2005, 02:08 PM	#44
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	That's awful, Chase. It was great to hang with you at China White and I wish we had talked more, but it was a bit loud. I'm glad the guys got called on it, but it really shouldn't happen in the first place. I think I've just lucked out that it hasn't happened to me yet, considering how it seems to happen to someone every show. __________________ email: [email protected]