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spacedog 02-05-2002 11:38 AM

If I am reading this post right, It looks like traffic101 is saying that his content was licensed by HPF inc , & that his accuser is the one without license to that same content..?
Am I right?

Dualcpu 02-05-2002 11:42 AM

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Quote from Rollin2:

"a big professional comapny like webair handling a client like this? yeah right"


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It certainly seems odd to go on a chatboard and handle these kind of issues there - but Webair is obviously trying to defend its company policy, which is ofcourse their right.

I will stay neutral - i hope both parties can handle this in a mature and professional manner from now on.

P.

kmanrox 02-05-2002 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spacedog
Traffic101 , just fax him the proof of ownership or license of the images in question...
They offered you free hosting for life , so be smart..
If you're in the rightful position to use the questioned content, then take their offer & let bygones be bygones..
Webair is trying to work with you , but you're going in circles now..
What is it gonna be..


spacedog, he *cant* and he wont fax it, cuz he doesnt own it LoL

spacedog 02-05-2002 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox



spacedog, he *cant* and he wont fax it, cuz he doesnt own it LoL

Sure looks that way, don't it..

kmanrox 02-05-2002 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffic101
I have all needed paperwork, which will be provided to FTC,
webair should ask me for this paperwork when they received complaint, but your phone number was not working, we have send you email, which I never received.

fast mail (fedex, ups) was not an option.

haha webairs phone number was not working?

you may have a point, it must be smoke signals i send to NYC WebAir when I speak to Mike EVERY SINGLE DAY EVEN ON WEEKENDS...

this is hilarious! i LOVE this shit!!!

traffic101 02-05-2002 11:48 AM

I have spoke with webair over phone 6 times in Friday.
Tech support didnt know why are my sites down, they have told me why have been my sites removed in sunday.

kmanrox 02-05-2002 11:50 AM

Here's another piece of food for thought,

If I am driving on a suspended license, without insurance (in CA), and I get rear-ended..... Does it matter that it was not my fault? *NO* My ass goes to jail and I have to pay for it all, why? Because I was criminal (wrong) in the first place and shouldn't have been on the road!

You are a content thief of the highest order, you dont even deserve proper notice, WebAir was kind enough to give you due time, and you are lucky it didnt get pulled the second they found out, because like the driver driving without a license and insurance, it doesnt matter jack shit, you were in the wrong in the first place...


Just my :2 cents:

Dualcpu 02-05-2002 11:52 AM

Quote traffic101

"I have spoken with Webair over the phone 6 times on Friday.
The technical support department didnt know why my sites were down,..."

"they have told me why have been my sites removed in sunday."


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Please explain the last sentence, did they or did they NOT know what was wrong with your sites?

I am confused ;-)


P.

traffic101 02-05-2002 11:54 AM

you can talk with your local police station about your suspended license.

traffic101 02-05-2002 11:55 AM

I have ask tech support, guys all my sites are down was I hacked?

guy said I will check, I have call back in 20minutes, he said have you by chance delete your material, I only see empty directories.

kmanrox 02-05-2002 11:57 AM

Dual, don't worry, youre certainly *not* the only one he is confusing hehehe

:stoned

kmanrox 02-05-2002 12:00 PM

im kinda diggin traffic's caption under his name

'I scan my pictures from Penthouse'

Kind of ironic?

:Graucho

webair 02-05-2002 12:03 PM

sry, double post ...my bad.

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
Dual, don't worry, youre certainly *not* the only one he is confusing hehehe

:stoned

Another lie.

Again, we have backups that tech support offered you, it wasn't until you threatened physical abuse to tech support that they didn't respond and required you to speak with me.

Taken from an e-mail you sent to tech support:

"I have grab all movies from bukkake-bath.com and i am using them on my website and I will keep using them, if you want I will just change webhost, I spoke with Chris and he said noone at webair wont do anything until something legal is provided from attorneys."

webair 02-05-2002 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffic101
I have ask tech support, guys all my sites are down was I hacked?

guy said I will check, I have call back in 20minutes, he said have you by chance delete your material, I only see empty directories.

Another lie.

Again, we have backups that tech support offered you, it wasn't until you threatened physical abuse to tech support that they didn't respond and required you to speak with me.

Taken from an e-mail you sent to tech support:

"I have grab all movies from bukkake-bath.com and i am using them on my website and I will keep using them, if you want I will just change webhost, I spoke with Chris and he said noone at webair wont do anything until something legal is provided from attorneys."

traffic101 02-05-2002 12:05 PM

I never wrote that.
Who is Chris now ?

webair 02-05-2002 12:07 PM

chris is in tech support.

and i couldnt have made up that accent man =)

sorry

12clicks 02-05-2002 12:08 PM

traffic101................guilty.

next

kmanrox 02-05-2002 12:10 PM

im gettin a woodie .. ive never seen a thief get this pissed off, this is 'good training' as we would say in the marines! haha

teadrinker 02-05-2002 12:10 PM

better get another cup of coffee.

traffic101 02-05-2002 12:11 PM

now you are saying that we had communication regarding my sites?


webair: "I spoke with Chris and he said noone at webair wont do anything until something legal is provided from attorneys."

Thumbelina 02-05-2002 12:11 PM

12clicks rule
:thumbsup

Brian911 02-05-2002 12:16 PM

hey but I`m quite sure he won the dvd player.

take it positive man! :thumbsup

webair 02-05-2002 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffic101
now you are saying that we had communication regarding my sites?


webair: "I spoke with Chris and he said noone at webair wont do anything until something legal is provided from attorneys."

Yes, that is 100% what i am saying. that is a direct excerpt from your e-mail to support.

You forced me to do some digging =)

traffic101 02-05-2002 12:20 PM

webair: because you have threat our tech personell we will shut down
your websites.

This is what I have receive from one of you guys.

kmanrox 02-05-2002 12:22 PM

but he wont be able to receive the DVD player due to his array of fictitious information and addresses...


actually, i heard a rumor that Mike@Webair is really traffic101 and he just really wanted a DVD player, but didnt know which fake address to send it to... shit... that didnt make sense.... but then again, does any of this thread??

oscer 02-05-2002 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by webair

Webair believes that it's services are so good we are willing to offer every webmaster on this board a free months hosting account...NO STRINGS I will personally give anyone on this board a free 30 day trial to see how great our services are, and to prove that this client is completely wrong.

Michael Christopher
Webair Internet Development Inc.
Phone: 516.256.0821
Fax: 516.568.0867
ICQ# 20458616
AIM: webair mike
http://www.webair.com

Let them Give a Free trail then they will be mad when you Leave them after the Free trial

kmanrox 02-05-2002 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffic101
webair: because you have threat our tech personell we will shut down
your websites.

This is what I have receive from one of you guys.


Hey traffic, omg, sry im laffin...

umm... that is what his tech support wrote you huh?

That is a very articulate New York technical guru accent I notice in the writing... almost Europeanish...

AHAHAHAHAHA

this is WAY TOO FUNNy!! =-))))

DarkJedi 02-05-2002 12:40 PM

Quote:

Webair believes that it's services are so good we are willing to offer every webmaster on this board a free months hosting account...NO STRINGS I will personally give anyone on this board a free 30 day trial to see how great our services are, and to prove that this client is completely wrong.
thats so gh3y :Kissmy

kmanrox 02-05-2002 12:47 PM

ya what a ghey offer huh? why would someone be so sure of their service and put themselves out there like that? lol


why dont you take him up on the offer jedi, free hosting? sounds good to me!!

kmanrox 02-05-2002 12:50 PM

actually, that's a damn good offer, maybe I've been watching too much Godfather, but that sounds like an offer one can almost not refuse =-)

:Graucho

3Xguru 02-05-2002 01:04 PM

Tis is becoming a biiiiiiiiiiiiig fuckin' thread. :feels-hot

teadrinker 02-05-2002 01:11 PM

anyone notice traffic101 reply is short? look at his first post, its like a fuckin essay, i think he just want a dvd player now, at first i was on his side, now he just pissed me off.

Fletch XXX 02-05-2002 01:12 PM

Hey Mike, if it helps man, I have 4 sites on webair and have always had an easy time getting response and things fixed, as a matter of fact I registered a new domain 2 days ago and contacted webair yesterday regarding "pointing" the url to their servers and this morning an email was there.
Webair has ALWAYS dealt with me one on one and in a cool laid back manner, one of the reasons I continue to use them, I can obviously find cheaper than them, but their quality of service and friendliness has maintained my loyalty.

hey Mike, on my new site can I get that 30 days free even though Im existing client?

;)

pr0view 02-05-2002 01:13 PM

k-man, do you get paid for that or what? jesus, bro, you made your point obvious about a hundred times... no one is going to believe that webair is the fucking number one hosting company just because you are posting like spacedog in this thread... take a break, would ya? :ugone2far

kmanrox 02-05-2002 01:48 PM

haha no, but i am good friends of Mike and he has been nothing but cordial and professional from day 1 and his reputation goes back as far as mine...

I just dont like to see people jump on a bandwagon for the hell of it... Content thiefs should all rot in hell, with cat burgalars, bank robbers and the like....

I am done with this thread, with an offer like Mike layed on the table, I don't see much room for any furhter discussion, he put his services where his mouth is and I commend that...

funkmaster 02-05-2002 02:01 PM

"Let them Give a Free trail then they will be mad when you Leave them after the Free trial"

... why not take 5 free trials and then leave ... if "webair" really is the boss of this company, devending himself here makes him look like a twat, if they took this thief down for not haveing his content licensed, thatīs fine, but why is "webair" doing it the hard way now? he should have never responded in the first place ... unless he had some 50 more clients since yesterday ... conspiracy, conspiracy !!!

redshift 02-05-2002 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffic101
I have ask tech support, guys all my sites are down was I hacked?

guy said I will check, I have call back in 20minutes, he said have you by chance delete your material, I only see empty directories.


looks like the admin's took it down and didnt tell tech support -
maybe

Rocky 02-05-2002 02:49 PM

sorry i'm late

got held up at the concession stand

anyone want a Twizzler?

ZapMan 02-05-2002 02:59 PM

I just want to burn free bandwidth for a month!

Snake Doctor 02-05-2002 04:05 PM

I think (not that anyone gives a shit what I think, but.....)
you're both in the wrong.

Traffic101 if you stole content, or even worse and entire site design, then you're scum and you shouldn't be in this biz. If the only way you can make $$ here is to copy other people's work then you should seriously consider other career options.

As for Webair, getting an email from another pissed off webmaster is not reason enough to remove an account. If you get a cease and desist letter from an attorney, then you have to do whatever your legal dept tells you to do, but until it comes to that you need to side with your client.
I have liscenses to every picture on my site, and suppose you got an email from someone saying something was stolen while I was in Vegas in January? I obviously wasn't around to answer the phone or reply to emails. But since I wasn't home and able to reply in what you considered a timely manner would you take down my sites and kill my livelihood while I was away?

And even if you were presented with undisputable proof from an attorney, shouldn't you have taken down only the offending domain and not his entire account? If I recall correctly traffic101 seems much more upset about losing linkdatabase.com than japanbukkake.com.

That's my :2 cents:

tekart 02-05-2002 04:07 PM

I just want to know this:

What is Webair?s policy about webmasters who have ?possible? stolen or illegal content on their website? I?ve looked at their website and don?t see anything that outlines what I ?can and can?t do!?.

I figure, if the company policy says that as a webmaster, I have to supply written proof that the content I have up on my site is legal, then I would think that if I do not respond within this given timeframe, my site would be taken down until such notice has been given to Webair.

However, if there is no such policy in place, then I think Webair should have kept the site up or at least have taken the liberty to email this guy the fact that his site was going to be taken down instead of giving him the run around?

As for those who have received good service from Webair in the past, I think every company has their share of customers who praise them and have experienced nothing but the best service and support, along with a good portion of customers who have not been so fortunate, especially when it comes to sites being taken down without warning, emails gone unanswered for days and everything else that would account to shit service.

So the bottom line is still?what is this company?s policy about what you can and can?t do when hosting w/them?



:)

my :2 cents:

Bobo 02-05-2002 04:08 PM

K-Man, go take a rest from defending your friend. This is a business and legal issue which should preclude any of your remarks made on behalf of your friendship.

I've had negative experiences with Webair in the past and know of at least two others. Tech support was always available but issues never seemed to get resolved completely. It was always temporary. Sites would go down many times each month without explanation or warning. Lost sales and traffic were never figured into an always increasing hosting fee.

Traffic, you're not alone in your experience. You may or may not have been at fault here. I'm not saying Webair is to blame nor you. I don't know. Let the FTC investigate and make their judgement.

All other services at Webair were great but without having your site online at all times, any hosting is just not worth it.

kmanrox 02-05-2002 05:59 PM

Bobo, newbie, go home... Your last post was something o the effect of 'Fuck the Irish' , I am Irish, why dont you post under your real handle kid? lol


Tekart -- ?? huh? go away lol

Ludedude 02-05-2002 07:21 PM

Traffic101 :stop :waaaaahh http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/images/icons/alert.gif

Rocky 02-05-2002 09:38 PM

huh?

MrBrian 02-05-2002 10:24 PM

backup is right

i learned the hard way 4 years ago. burn it on cd and buy an apc!

traffic101 02-06-2002 03:30 AM

Bobo and tekart I agree.


Kman if you are judge we will meet on court.
But I doubt that judges use phrases like (lol, lafffin, h1 and similiar) maybe kids in puberty.

gently_chided 09-07-2003 11:01 PM

interesting... thinking about going with webair.

KC 09-07-2003 11:17 PM

** Nevermind **

I realized that I don't care and I'm staying out of it. :)

pornJester 09-07-2003 11:42 PM

Jesus christ i just wasted 20 min reading this OLD ASS THREAD!

:321GFY


saw the spacedog reply and was like wtf?


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