Mike supply fax number to person that reported us like I said HPF inc wants to verify their license, since they are not mentitioned anywhere, that have ever bought any material.
you will receive email from ftc agent today which will investigate that case. I have already receive confirmation that they have receive this report

and btw you have caught yourself on lie, preiously you said that you gave me 2 weeks, here are you saying 24h.

there is still the question of wether or not he is a content thief , he says he has proof, not saying it's for the images in question (we still don't know what they are and who is saying the own them). "

YOU SAID YOU HAVE VERIFY ALL THAT! BEFORE YOU HAVE REMOVE ME!


linkdatabase.com didnt had any photos except banners.!

You did not verify anything you have receive complaint and removed me, this is how you work!


I have receive several emails that your company is also involved in several spam issues on spamcop and also a lot of debate on
dejanews spam abuse groups.

Looks like it was one of the clients of webair was the spammer..
here ya go..
http://news.spamcop.net/cgi-bin/htse...onfig=scsearch

Webair, after reading this thread very carefully, you make the point that linkdatabase MAY have stolen content, but you have NO PROOF that any of his content is stolen.

Alleged accusations by another webmaster DO NOT mean that the accused is the culprit! If you took down linkdatabase without any proof that his content is stolen, ONLY ACCUSATIONS, then you are - WITHOUT A DOUBT- at fault.

Now if you have legal proof that his content is stolen then your actions are justified.

On a side note - I've submitted sites in the past to linkdatabase and I'm familiar with his site. From my experience he is a very friendly and reputable webmaster.

So bottom line... DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT HIS CONTENT IS STOLEN?

or are you basing the notion that his content is stolen solely on another webmaster's accusations?

Innocent until proven guilty.

And from webair's responses on this board I sure as hell know to stay away from them and warn other webmasters of webair of these events and other negative feelings towards webair as well.

If webair is such the professional company that they claim to be then none of this whole matter should ever have escalated to this - and that's FACT.

:boid

Mike supply fax number to person that reported us like I said HPF inc wants to verify their license, since they are not mentitioned anywhere, that have ever bought any material.
you will receive email from ftc agent today which will investigate that case. I have already receive confirmation that they have receive this report.

I await their call, as I would like to put an end to this. Thus far we have yet to hear from anyone.
516.568.0867
1.866.WEBAIR1

and btw you have caught yourself on lie, preiously you said that you gave me 2 weeks, here are you saying 24h.

Attempted points of contact:

falsified phone information
falsified whois phone information
attempted e-mail contact failed

How else should we try? smoke signals?

there is still the question of wether or not he is a content thief , he says he has proof, not saying it's for the images in question (we still don't know what they are and who is saying the own them). "

"YOU SAID YOU HAVE VERIFY ALL THAT! BEFORE YOU HAVE REMOVE ME!
You did not verify anything you have receive complaint and removed me, this is how you work! "

Not true, had you supplied us with the correct contact information perhaps we could have contacted you, and why is all of the info under the whois contact falsified as well? We tried every avenue to contact you. The complainant had a user/pass to your site, proof of ownership, licensing information etc... You gave us nothing.

Here is another chance...fax the licensing info to 516.568.0867 e-mail [email protected] call 1.866.WEBAIR1 show me something!

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FAX THE LICENSING INFO CAN YOU DO IT OR NOT? THAT IS THE QUESTION. I WILL PERSONALL HOST YOUR SITE FOR FREE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IF YOU CAN DO SO!

I have receive several emails that your company is also involved in several spam issues on spamcop and also a lot of debate on
dejanews spam abuse groups.

Every host deals with spam, your digging man.

man this is lika a tug-o-war match

until this your guy doesnt fax license we are done here, I am busy working on linkdatabase.com and I really belive that you take care for your costumers since you are "blabling" here whole day.

you have address, you know house address?
you could visit fedex or ups and send me complaint printed, you dont have printer now ?

Traffic101 , just fax him the proof of ownership or license of the images in question...
They offered you free hosting for life , so be smart..
If you're in the rightful position to use the questioned content, then take their offer & let bygones be bygones..
Webair is trying to work with you , but you're going in circles now..
What is it gonna be..

I really did not understand the last post... but i'll give you one last chance to make good:

Again, can you send me licensing info for the content that you were accused of stealing, it was the entire site!

The question is can you send me licensing information for the content on your site?

516.568.0867
866WEBAIR1

My offer stands free hosting for life if you can, I am giving you every opportunity to prove me wrong.

M

like previosly mentitioned If webair will be the last webhosting company on the world I will not host there ever again.


if he offers money Ive lost, he will receive contracts faxed from me in 24h.

sounds to me like it's beyond him and webair now, the fucking ftc is involved now.

this is gonna be one for the books.

Well , what about giving us GFY'ers some proof...

It's like watching a mini series with the last chapter missing!!

All of your hosting fees for the duration of the time you were here + $2000 if you can send me licensing info for the site(s) in question =) within the dates that we received the complaints.

516.568.0867
1.866WEBAIR1

M

send me email I will give you details for bank money wire
after you send money , I will give you fax number and you get contracts in 24h.


as previosly posted ive lost 5000$, send me 50%.


lets play mike!

Done deal, $2500 fax me the licensing info

516.568.0867
[email protected]

Let me kow when you have faxed

Mike

Send me bank control papers that bank money wire was sent
to my fax number:509-756-9370

Time to put all the cards on the table traffic101:glugglug

after I receive papers ive requested from him.
my good will that i am staying here and answering.

wait the popcorn isn't done and i have to go on a beer run

Am i getting this straight or did you just say that you now want me to send you the money before you fax me licensing info?

I think it abundantly clear that you do not have the info and that the content was indeed stolen.

Prove me wrong for $2500 fax proof of ownership to me 516.568.0867

Until you can do so , I'm done.

M

Why won't you make the first move & just fax him the license info..
It's that simple..

A lot harder to send money rather than paper proof ,,,,,,,
Fax him the proof then you will have $2500.00

Now is that so hard?

I am not their costumer anymore and have no obligations to his company.


if he wanna see contracts he will do something first, then I will move my ass.


we can also put a contract together which your laywer will sign that if I dont fax you contracts after you send me bank money wire I commited fraud and you can have me arrested.!

I rest my case? =)


M

The jury finds for the defense...next on CourtTV, it's 12Clicks vs. a Bunch of Russians...Just like OJ, but more Slavic.

Where is your reputation going traffic101?

It is so much better to say: here are the copyrights now pay up, and by the way :nananana.

You will be totally vindicated and be in the good books of all the jolly webmasters on the board. :winkwink:

for me sounds more nice, here is proof that we have send you 2500$ now give us contracts.

reputation will still be involved .

must be the commercial break, come on get on with the game.

Oh my..

Since when are private issues between client and company discussed on public boards?

This entire case could be closed by simply faxing the requested papers to WebAir, if your content is licensed to you, you should have the right paperwork available to proof this.


My :2 cents:

Also,

Webair - please use the "quote" option when replying to a message.

;-)

Thanks.

Hear hear...........lets get rady to ruuuumble
:moon
:repuke

I'm just curious... How can one accept payments of services for 2 years, Webair, and not know how to contact the person sending in the money, Oliver? This question goes both ways...

Webair - come on... you don't have valid contact info for a client of 2 years? You mention above that you had to check whois for contact info, shouldn't you have more info than the whois? A credit card number, maybe?

Oliver - come on, you should have made sure they could contact you.

This is, of course, assuming that webair did indeed try to contact Oliver like they say. I dunno, my host knows every single way to contact me, shouldn't all hosts, especially paid hosts?

Just my 2 cents, as this has not been addressed yet.

I have all needed paperwork, which will be provided to FTC,
webair should ask me for this paperwork when they received complaint, but your phone number was not working, we have send you email, which I never received.

fast mail (fedex, ups) was not an option.

Traffic 101, after reading this entire post, all I can say is that you are full of shit. It's simple, all you need to do is prove the images are not stolen and you are the winner. But you keep avoiding that fact and asking for money first, well thats bull shit and you know it. You used fake info on all your whois info (webair proved this) so who the hell are you. Webair is to well known to hide and they are traceable, so proviode the proper info and you win, otherwise you are a cheating scum bag!!!!
This is such a simple case here, even Judge Judy could get this one right...

I never used any fake info or intended to do so.
all these addresses are real address with offices.

Traffic101,

I am just curious - what country are you from?

Thanks.

P.

webair gives out their company address not Mike`s, which is o.k
everyone must take care for his own personal privacy.

You are all welcome to try it, maybe its my phone?

Domain Name: JAPANBUKKAKE.COM

Administrative Contact:

389-388-5849


Back to work.

where is webairs proof?
all i see is an e-mail sent to them from a person claiming its their content. LOL

i think webair acted too quick, and didn't get all their documentation proper before canning their client, traffic 101.

i hope you sue them traffic 101, if your host dosen't act in a professional and legal manner, then hold them legaly responsible for all damages.

where the hell is the c&d that should have been sent to traffic 101? where are the proper contact names / phone numbers etc.
webair acted too quick with out actually fully investigating, probably they fucked up...

thats why i say
HOST WITH OSCER! :)
I hated the guy, but his pipe is good, so it's all good :)

are you responding to me here? If so, then maybe you did make it difficult for them to contact you. Dumb. If they could have contacted you from the beginning....


Webair: You have been accused of stealing content, please provide all liscensing info.

Oliver: Ok here it is.

That is how it should have went.

"Webair: You have been accused of stealing content, please provide all liscensing info. "

yeah let's see it webair

pull it up soon, we don't want to give you enough time to create some fake shit :)

Now, are you responding to me as well? I hope not, because that only illustrates my point, that you should have had more info than that.

Rollin2,

Why have you allready decided that Webair is in the wrong here?

Are you being objective here?

P.

it was discussed before turbo.


I am done for today , must continue with work.

lol great saying, more work for me :tongue:

your a fucking nut man

Rollin2, HUH?

That was an imaginary dialogue.... I was not accusing webair of having stolen content.

Dualcpu,

from what i have read...they just cut traffic 101 off because they recieved an email claiming stolen content being used.

if i was the host,
i would request for the proper documentation that says infact i do own so and so pictures, and that i did not license these pictures to this person.

until they show these, i am against webair.

i usualy don't take sides, i stay in the middle, but this one is just completely dumb. a big professional comapny like webair handling a client like this? yeah right

Where? I read the whole thread before I replied.

turbo,

who says i was talking to you??

keep dreaming ;) hehe

waste, hey man, i don't have a problem giving props to people who run a good solid service.

Jesus, can no one read around here? Rollin2 you directly quoted me, therefore I responded. uggh.
No wonder there are always problems of communication in this industry.