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Old 08-03-2005, 02:47 PM   #1
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IFRIENDS! Shit will hit the fan!

I will keep everyone posted. They fucked with the wrong person. I dont know to much details for now on what they will do. I m just waiting for there email. I cant beleive how some people are just fuckin dishonest & they are running million dollar company. For now be careful if ur dealing with them, u just never know.

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Old 08-03-2005, 02:48 PM   #2
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Wow, iFriends drama... Again.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:50 PM   #3
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damn what kinda drama?

anything reguarding shaving? that's my only guess
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ever noticed how the first post of an ifriends drama thread never makes any sense?

its always a few posts down that youre able to figure what the hell is going on
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You met a fat psycho girl ? Look it's not IFriend's fault. The pictures are fake. That's how fat psycho girls have sex.
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ever noticed how the first post of an ifriends drama thread never makes any sense?

its always a few posts down that youre able to figure what the hell is going on
SO fucking true.

I aint buying it anymore.
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Before he has a chance to say it, I will: Talk to Will76. He will at least be able to get you some straight answers from the Clickcash team.

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So lemme guess?

You/your friends signed up as a test with some cc`s and they didnt show in your sales?
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Let me guess... They termed your account? Wont give you a reason?

Short answer - your free signs didnt spend enough money.

Thats the usual, they are famous for it.
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So lemme guess?

You/your friends signed up as a test with some cc`s and they didnt show in your sales?

Nah nah, he sent 50 joins last week via CAN SPAM COMPLIANT email marketing, and didn't get a check

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Using the decipher ring I get this.
I violated some part of the TOS that I did not read and now they refuse to pay me.
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its unbelievable how many times I see this
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Before he has a chance to say it, I will: Talk to Will76. He will at least be able to get you some straight answers from the Clickcash team.

I can try but if it is really something relating to ifriends only, something the chathost did, or ifriends checks, or your ifriends charges on your credit card etc.. I can really only pass that on to ifriends support. I don't have any contacts there.

But, we don't even know what his problem is yet... god only knows lol.
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Before he has a chance to say it, I will: Talk to Will76. He will at least be able to get you some straight answers from the Clickcash team.

It as nothing to do with clickcash at all. Its about IFRIENDS only. Lets just say I referred allot of chathost to them, thats what i have to say for now.

keep you posted
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I like all the quess work in this thread.
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I will keep everyone posted. They fucked with the wrong person. I dont know to much details for now on what they will do. I m just waiting for there email. I cant beleive how some people are just fuckin dishonest & they are running million dollar company. For now be careful if ur dealing with them, u just never know.

Keep u posted,
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i have an important announcement to make, oh this is huge. I can't say it now though.. ill keep you posted.





What is the point of these lame ass threads, if you have something to say then say it.
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I can try but if it is really something relating to ifriends only, something the chathost did, or ifriends checks, or your ifriends charges on your credit card etc.. I can really only pass that on to ifriends support. I don't have any contacts there.

But, we don't even know what his problem is yet... god only knows lol.

LOL CLICKCASH & IFRIENDS are the same company WEBPOWER and u say u dont have contacts there
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It as nothing to do with clickcash at all. Its about IFRIENDS only. Lets just say I referred allot of chathost to them, thats what i have to say for now.

keep you posted
I'll tell you this then, and all chathost know this. You have to be an ACTIVE chathost to make the 1% referral $ for sending them chathost. IF you are not a chathost you get nothing. If you stop working as a chathost and become inactive you stop making the referral money.


Does this help clear it up for you ?
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It as nothing to do with clickcash at all. Its about IFRIENDS only. Lets just say I referred allot of chathost to them, thats what i have to say for now.

keep you posted
I get it
Let me guess, you stopped getting the 1% commissions off of them. It either just up and stopped or they allowed them to jump screennames and ditch your refferal.
They fucked a great deal of people on the host refferals, I can tell you that now. Though if you really want them and they still allow non active hosts to reffer people you will need to go through all of their age verification bullshit with the cam system just like a regular host has to do.
It is and was bullshit though, assuming this was the issue.
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I'll tell you this then, and all chathost know this. You have to be an ACTIVE chathost to make the 1% referral $ for sending them chathost. IF you are not a chathost you get nothing. If you stop working as a chathost and become inactive you stop making the referral money.


Does this help clear it up for you ?

HM show me where it says this in ur terms & conditions? SHOW ME?
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I'll tell you this then, and all chathost know this. You have to be an ACTIVE chathost to make the 1% referral $ for sending them chathost. IF you are not a chathost you get nothing. If you stop working as a chathost and become inactive you stop making the referral money.


Does this help clear it up for you ?
Problem is will76, when people like myself reffered them hosts no such rule was in place and it said you get the refferal money for the life of that chathost. Then latter on the fliped the tables.
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LOL CLICKCASH & IFRIENDS are the same company WEBPOWER and u say u dont have contacts there
your right it is 3 people sitting in one room that run both opperations...

try to think before you speak. How many corporation have a parent company (err webpower) and own several different companies (err ifriends, clickcash, etc.) Can i person at each company do the job of everyone at all the other companies... Just because i speak with someone over at clickcash does not mean that that person can handle ifriends related problems...
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Problem is will76, when people like myself reffered them hosts no such rule was in place and it said you get the refferal money for the life of that chathost. Then latter on the fliped the tables.

you were a chathost ? what were the terms of this rule ? I was a chathost back in 99' and i never remember a referral fee for sending chathost. I always remember them having more models then they could use most of the time. The first i even heard of making any money from sending chathost was a while back when I found out it was 1% and was only to active chathost.

Where ws the model referral info posted when you came across it ? How did they know who to credit the referral money too, was it through your clickcash account, ifriends account, or a whole seperate account ?
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Problem is will76, when people like myself reffered them hosts no such rule was in place and it said you get the refferal money for the life of that chathost. Then latter on the fliped the tables.

UR rite Budy, U got it... there are urs for life, thats what it was stating. Shit I signed up like in 1997 with them and started to reffer others. I would like to see how many people they screwed with this. We cant let these bastards screw us like this. SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN!

And Will76 u could stick your clickcash program where the sun dont shine, hey Will76 close it now be my guess, my account is CHAT4FREE
All your links are going down anyways.
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HM show me where it says this in ur terms & conditions? SHOW ME?

You show me what you are looking it where it says you get anything for referrals.
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you were a chathost ? what were the terms of this rule ? I was a chathost back in 99' and i never remember a referral fee for sending chathost. I always remember them having more models then they could use most of the time. The first i even heard of making any money from sending chathost was a while back when I found out it was 1% and was only to active chathost.

Where ws the model referral info posted when you came across it ? How did they know who to credit the referral money too, was it through your clickcash account, ifriends account, or a whole seperate account ?
Are you advertizing here now will76?

You must be doing well
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you were a chathost ? what were the terms of this rule ? I was a chathost back in 99' and i never remember a referral fee for sending chathost. I always remember them having more models then they could use most of the time. The first i even heard of making any money from sending chathost was a while back when I found out it was 1% and was only to active chathost.

Where ws the model referral info posted when you came across it ? How did they know who to credit the referral money too, was it through your clickcash account, ifriends account, or a whole seperate account ?
HUH, you were a chathost back in 99 and u dont remember the 1% free on reffering other chathost, lol on which planet ur living on. I have been working with them since 1997 or so and ita always been there. U guys fucked me over and u will pay for it. Where is the terms Will76 thats states i have to be active chathost? u did not show me. I read them all & saved them all & I dont see it.
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UR rite Budy, U got it... there are urs for life, thats what it was stating. Shit I signed up like in 1997 with them and started to reffer others. I would like to see how many people they screwed with this. We cant let these bastards screw us like this. SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN!

And Will76 u could stick your clickcash program where the sun dont shine, hey Will76 close it now be my guess, my account is CHAT4FREE
All your links are going down anyways.
What are you talking about? all my links are going down? close what ? You sound like a raving lunitic.

I had to check 3 times to see if someone is bumping old threads. I know the 1% rule for active chathost has been in place a while. YOu just getting upset about this now ? So you sent chathost back in 97, how many of them you think are still on the site making money today. Most chathost come and go, very very few last for 4 - 5 years doing this.

Good luck with your "crusade to get them."
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Are you advertizing here now will76?

You must be doing well
I am not advertising here any more then you are

At least i know what the hell is going on...

and I am doing very very well.. thanks for asking.
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you were a chathost ? what were the terms of this rule ? I was a chathost back in 99' and i never remember a referral fee for sending chathost. I always remember them having more models then they could use most of the time. The first i even heard of making any money from sending chathost was a while back when I found out it was 1% and was only to active chathost.

Where ws the model referral info posted when you came across it ? How did they know who to credit the referral money too, was it through your clickcash account, ifriends account, or a whole seperate account ?
No I was not a chathost.
Only terms were you created an ifriends account and then could reffer in chathosts. No more than one per address and they could not be working for you studio style.
The refferal was always in place though and you would earn 1% gross or 2% of what the host earned (same thing) after the chathost accumulates 120 hours of being live (this is not paid time, or at least was not at the time).
The model refferal info was posted in a box where the model would fill in her/his initial info when registering. It was not hard to do a pre-fill on this incase the model forgot or whatever reason.
The refferal id was my ifriends/clickcash account name. I am sure you are aware that if you create an ifriends account it also works at clickcash.
BTW that refferal is still in place over at ifriends, they just have really cut down the wording and it appears to apply to only chathosts now but it does not say active chathosts.
This has been in place for litterally ages, very minimum of seven years.
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You show me what you are looking it where it says you get anything for referrals.
Is that clear enough for u:

Any iFriends chathost that recruits another chathost to iFriends earns 1% "overrides" on the referred chathost's pay-per-minute earnings, plus a $100 one-time bounty payment when the referred chathost accumulates at least 120 hours of time in live videochat.

and is that clear enought for u:

Second, you earn an additional $100 for each new videochat host you recruit to the iFriends platform. (To qualify, the friend must be an active iFriends video chathost for at least six weeks). And third, you earn "overrides" on any live videochat revenue earned by chathosts you recruit. It can be a gigantic potential income source to you: You earn 1% on videochat revenues for hosts that that you recruit, and a 1% override on any friends that they recruit to become video chathosts, and so on, up to 16 different levels. (Do the math: If you recruit two friends, and they recruit two friends, and so on, you'll get a 1% override on the revenues of 65,536 different iFriends video chathosts!) For even more ways to earn big money from iFriends, click here.

Now u do the math Will76, how much did they screw me over for?
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http://www.ifriends.net/chathostsonly/paytypes.htm number 3 will76.
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Any iFriends chathost that recruits another chathost to iFriends earns 1% "overrides" on the referred chathost's pay-per-minute earnings, plus a $100 one-time bounty payment when the referred chathost accumulates at least 120 hours of time in live videochat.

and is that clear enought for u:

Second, you earn an additional $100 for each new videochat host you recruit to the iFriends platform. (To qualify, the friend must be an active iFriends video chathost for at least six weeks). And third, you earn "overrides" on any live videochat revenue earned by chathosts you recruit. It can be a gigantic potential income source to you: You earn 1% on videochat revenues for hosts that that you recruit, and a 1% override on any friends that they recruit to become video chathosts, and so on, up to 16 different levels. (Do the math: If you recruit two friends, and they recruit two friends, and so on, you'll get a 1% override on the revenues of 65,536 different iFriends video chathosts!) For even more ways to earn big money from iFriends, click here.

Now u do the math Will76, how much did they screw me over for?
This was the older text I can not find live myself. I also got ass reamed by this. BTW yes many of the hosts I reffered are still active and working.
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Old 08-03-2005, 03:40 PM   #38
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This was the older text I can not find live myself. I also got ass reamed by this. BTW yes many of the hosts I reffered are still active and working.
Its still there buddy, i just copy & pasted from their site. The only thing i dont see now is for paid LIFE. Hm i wonder when they removed this. Buddy it kind of sucks when u get shafted like this huh. fuck i even send them sign ups through clickcash. I am removing anything webpower on my sites now.

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(Do the math: If you recruit two friends, and they recruit two friends, and so on, you'll get a 1% override on the revenues of 65,536 different iFriends video chathosts!) For even more ways to earn big money from iFriends, click here.

Now u do the math Will76, how much did they screw me over for?

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HUH, you were a chathost back in 99 and u dont remember the 1% free on reffering other chathost, lol on which planet ur living on. I have been working with them since 1997 or so and ita always been there. U guys fucked me over and u will pay for it. Where is the terms Will76 thats states i have to be active chathost? u did not show me. I read them all & saved them all & I dont see it.

If this is the case PJ than GFY is not the place for you. Seek help from the FTC, and the IRS wouldn't hurt. However I hope to god you have something in writing that outlines the terms for this refferal commision. If not sorry for your luck chuck, there is nothing you can do.

It's been said a million times, and I will say it again. GFY will not take down anyone, however if someone fucks the right affiliate, and that affilite has proof. An audit of the sponsors books would not be out of the question, I'd love to see someone get their books reconciled by a govt bean counter. Once the govt figures out how the money works the heard will thin out and ratios will be better.
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Its still there buddy, i just copy & pasted from their site. The only thing i dont see now is for paid LIFE. Hm i wonder when they removed this. Buddy it kind of sucks when u get shafted like this huh. fuck i even send them sign ups through clickcash. I am removing anything webpower on my sites now.
I just quickly checked when I went searching. Mind posting that link to?

One question though, did you talk to them and they tell you no go, or did they tell you that you need to go through all the age verification bs?
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Is that clear enough for u:

Any iFriends chathost that recruits another chathost to iFriends earns 1% "overrides" on the referred chathost's pay-per-minute earnings, plus a $100 one-time bounty payment when the referred chathost accumulates at least 120 hours of time in live videochat.

and is that clear enought for u:

Second, you earn an additional $100 for each new videochat host you recruit to the iFriends platform. (To qualify, the friend must be an active iFriends video chathost for at least six weeks). And third, you earn "overrides" on any live videochat revenue earned by chathosts you recruit. It can be a gigantic potential income source to you: You earn 1% on videochat revenues for hosts that that you recruit, and a 1% override on any friends that they recruit to become video chathosts, and so on, up to 16 different levels. (Do the math: If you recruit two friends, and they recruit two friends, and so on, you'll get a 1% override on the revenues of 65,536 different iFriends video chathosts!) For even more ways to earn big money from iFriends, click here.

Now u do the math Will76, how much did they screw me over for?

I give it to you, i don't see it on the site. I do know that I was told a while back, that you had to be a chathost and an active one at that to make the 1%. This was several months ago. So surely you are not finding out about this now. So why the delayed reaction ?

And no i finally understand what you were trying to say, you are a clickcash webmaster and I was helping you with TCC ?
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It's been said a million times, and I will say it again. GFY will not take down anyone, however if someone fucks the right affiliate, and that affilite has proof. An audit of the sponsors books would not be out of the question, I'd love to see someone get their books reconciled by a govt bean counter. Once the govt figures out how the money works the heard will thin out and ratios will be better.
Ifriends almost pushed me to do this, just did not want the headache enough and compared to the time it would take versus my possible recovery I said fuck it. I have had programs piss me off before but none have ever gone as far as ifriends did.

Aside from non payment for refferals (just stoped on a few occassions). They were absolutely fine with hosts you reffered creating new screennames and ditching the old ones without moving the refferal with it. They were also ok with allowing hosts to move under other hosts that helped them out, again with a new screenname and using a new refferal name.
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I just quickly checked when I went searching. Mind posting that link to?

One question though, did you talk to them and they tell you no go, or did they tell you that you need to go through all the age verification bs?
Its on there index under become a chathost and go down to:

Can I make money at this?

Its there and also under:

3.
BOUNTY FEES


Its all there. Yes I contacted them in the past & they never wanted to release the cheques and wanted me to send Age verification, i did & still no cheques & today I called again and got enough of there BS & they told me my accound as been closed since february of this year, what a bunch of crap.

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Its on there index under become a chathost and go down to:

Can I make money at this?

Its there and also under:

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Its all there. Yes I contacted them in the past & they never wanted to release the cheques and wanted me to send Age verification, i did & still no cheques & today I called again and got enough of there BS & they told me my accound as been closed song february of this year, what a bunch of crap.
Ok same shit that happened with me.
First time I said ok and faxed in all the required paperwork and ids. checks resumed.
Several months latter they just stopped and I caught it during my monthly bookkeeping so I called them again. They told me I needed to go through the live camera age verification system, even though I would never be appearing on cam. So I figured fuck it I can do that to get my checks (was about 1k a week). I went through that process and it stayed messed up, each time I was revoked for some reason or the other. A month passed with me trying to get age verification to work using that cam and waiting for responses. Eventually it made it through, I then called in about the checks. They said there are no refferals attached to this username. Emailed proof back and forth for another month. Then I got the this account had been cancelled and we can not show that you reffered who you said you did.
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Ok same shit that happened with me.
First time I said ok and faxed in all the required paperwork and ids. checks resumed.
Several months latter they just stopped and I caught it during my monthly bookkeeping so I called them again. They told me I needed to go through the live camera age verification system, even though I would never be appearing on cam. So I figured fuck it I can do that to get my checks (was about 1k a week). I went through that process and it stayed messed up, each time I was revoked for some reason or the other. A month passed with me trying to get age verification to work using that cam and waiting for responses. Eventually it made it through, I then called in about the checks. They said there are no refferals attached to this username. Emailed proof back and forth for another month. Then I got the this account had been cancelled and we can not show that you reffered who you said you did.

Thats pretty fucked up right there...
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Ok same shit that happened with me.
First time I said ok and faxed in all the required paperwork and ids. checks resumed.
Several months latter they just stopped and I caught it during my monthly bookkeeping so I called them again. They told me I needed to go through the live camera age verification system, even though I would never be appearing on cam. So I figured fuck it I can do that to get my checks (was about 1k a week). I went through that process and it stayed messed up, each time I was revoked for some reason or the other. A month passed with me trying to get age verification to work using that cam and waiting for responses. Eventually it made it through, I then called in about the checks. They said there are no refferals attached to this username. Emailed proof back and forth for another month. Then I got the this account had been cancelled and we can not show that you reffered who you said you did.
HOLLY FUCK Man pls dont let these bastards win, fight till the end. Im sure they fucked other people also. We need to do something about this. What is ur ICQ? if we could get other people in it we could talke legal actions towards them!
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HOLLY FUCK Man pls dont let these bastards win, fight till the end. Im sure they fucked other people also. We need to do something about this. What is ur ICQ? if we could get other people in it we could talke legal actions towards them!
I weighed my options and the legal expenses would just be silly compared to the potential gains. Been through enough lawsuits to know this plenty well.
Only reason I really considered it was just to use disclosure on their asses, yet I doubt they would go that far and just would settle which goes back to my initial remark. I would not be satisfied with a private settlement and a non disclose agreement. Yet the other side and fighting it out would be mindnumbingly expensive.

If ya still want the icq though lemme know.
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