If a website makes $1k a month, how much should it sell for? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

woj · 07-30-2005, 11:30 AM

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AVM · 07-30-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

who pays 20 years revenue for adult type in domains?

20 years is more than real estate lol

Adult...Who said anything about adult? Did my statement regarding volatility breeze past you? If so, allow me to elaborate. My statement regarding the adult world being a bitch/volatility (ups & downs) - inferred, that although I pay more my investments (domains), I enjoy the comforts of the mainstream world. Unlike what I would experience, in the adult world. The stability between the two varies greatly. So why oh why, would you chalk up my statement as so pro-Adult I would purchase one for 20x yrs revenue?

Then again, I suppose I can quit the domain biz (since I'm overpaying/bound to go broke), and I could follow in your footsteps, and just critisize the business models of those in a position to buy both (real estate and domains). Those in a position who speak from experience/success, not just from what Internet-reasonining dictates to you. I can only dream though? To become a Jack of all trades, master of none, like you.

Not trying to be as harsh as this sounds. I just know polish has never owned a pure generic domain, and don't appreciate him chiming in on me, and putting a cutesy reply. As most generics aren't sold based on revenue, but rather their intrinistic value. Even if they were sold on the basis of revenue, most generic one word domains that are not consumer-related products, make several dollars daily. As such, 20 yrs x's monthly revenue is not as much as one would perceive. Mainstream domains do not make $35 pps. We make our money per click. Now this, in addition to increasing cpc rates/increased competition amongst ppc programs (percentage increases), etc, that 20 years can become 10 yrs or even 2 yrs with the right sponsor.

AdultMegaCash · 07-30-2005, 03:52 PM

There are other factors here that I have yet to see someone ask. How good is the domain? Is the content exclusive or purchased from a store? Is there content ready for updates? How hard is the content to find? What are the traffic sources for it, are you pumping your own traffic to it, and once it's sold the traffic will drop, or is it from somewhere else, or generated by the site itself? What type of promo material is there for it? What processor is the site under right now? Is the site generating new sales, or is it all rebills? There are more, but I think these are a good start.

I would say unless it's a really kick ass site you are looking at 3 maybe 6 months revenue, you need to be able to turn a profit in at most 6 months or you are wasting time.

crockett · 07-30-2005, 04:43 PM

Everyone is just basing their price off the amount you said it makes.. However what needs to be asked is how much profit does it make? It could be a TGP that burns 300 to $400 a month in B/W.. Then the other issue is how much time do you have to work on it per month?

strobi · 07-30-2005, 04:47 PM

People would give you around 5K$ or so, but I wouldn't sell it for less than 20k$. Hell if I ever would sell.

vvq · 07-30-2005, 04:50 PM

atleast 12k.

Forkbeard · 07-30-2005, 10:22 PM

I understand why buyers are skeptical of large multiples, but the fact that anybody's willing to sell for such tiny ones just blows me away. I guess that's why I won't be selling my blogs any time soon. They've got years of track record showing traffic and revenue growth every month, and the income from my best one compares favorably to *good* jobs I've held in my life. This is not volatile -- shit could happen, but no way are these blogs going to stop making me money if I pay attention and stay flexible.

So you can imagine my suprise when I had some pirate offer me very low five figures for one of my blogs not long ago. WTF? Why would I swap a solid no-end-in-sight income for a paltry few month's revenue? What kind of moron would take that deal?

I can't imagine selling any of my sites for less than 3-5 *years* of revenue. I know buyers won't go there because they don't trust the stability of the revenue, but I don't have that problem -- I know it's stable. Somebody who would sell their site for six month's revenue has *got* to know the site is about to go KABOOM, else why sell?

leg4 · 07-30-2005, 10:56 PM

Typical business rules of revenue generated by a business do not apply in a typical way to web sites.

Because that income can be lost so quick

07-30-2005, 10:58 PM

mainsteam site -> 12 months revenue
porn site today -> 6 months revenue

I won't pay any more for it!

slapass · 07-31-2005, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

I understand why buyers are skeptical of large multiples, but the fact that anybody's willing to sell for such tiny ones just blows me away. I guess that's why I won't be selling my blogs any time soon. They've got years of track record showing traffic and revenue growth every month, and the income from my best one compares favorably to *good* jobs I've held in my life. This is not volatile -- shit could happen, but no way are these blogs going to stop making me money if I pay attention and stay flexible.

So you can imagine my suprise when I had some pirate offer me very low five figures for one of my blogs not long ago. WTF? Why would I swap a solid no-end-in-sight income for a paltry few month's revenue? What kind of moron would take that deal?

I can't imagine selling any of my sites for less than 3-5 *years* of revenue. I know buyers won't go there because they don't trust the stability of the revenue, but I don't have that problem -- I know it's stable. Somebody who would sell their site for six month's revenue has *got* to know the site is about to go KABOOM, else why sell?

The person could need the money. Wants to retire, divorce, illness, death. Tons of reasons to sell. So once the motivation is in place, we are determining market price.

I do not have anything I would sell for one year's income right now but that does not make a market as my stuff is not up for sale.

Satisfaction · 07-31-2005, 12:36 AM

lol at the 20 months call

polish_aristocrat · 07-31-2005, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AVM

Adult...Who said anything about adult?

we are on an adult webmaster board.

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Then again, I suppose I can quit the domain biz (since I'm overpaying/bound to go broke), and I could follow in your footsteps, and just critisize the business models of those in a position to buy both (real estate and domains).

Those in a position who speak from experience/success, not just from what Internet-reasonining dictates to you. I can only dream though? To become a Jack of all trades, master of none, like you.

well what makes you think that I don't own any good adult domains? From my posting here it should be obvious that I do have some.

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I just know polish has never owned a pure generic domain.

actually you're right, I am buying the first mainstream domain this month. And yes, only for $15k, I know you make that in your sleep each day

I will print out the pic you posted on GFY few months ago and hang it over my bed.

And seriously, why all the hate? We are on an adult business forum, if you don't like people who concentrate mostly on adult, then don't post here and stick to DN Forum or whatever....

fris · 07-31-2005, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

we are on an adult webmaster board.

yes but not everyone here runs just adult sites

mainstream and adult.

i have a feeling its mainstream.

Clicky_Bucks · 07-31-2005, 02:35 AM

Anyone who says more than 6 months are lieing to you or would like to think their domains are worth as much.

MrLeone · 07-31-2005, 02:53 AM

Everyone can say anything!
The price you get is what the buyer pays..

10-12-2 years... Its just figures...
YOU GET WHAT THE BUYER PAYS... And that can depend...

BAKO · 07-31-2005, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

You guys are nuts. It is 6 months or so. If it is all SEO it is even less. Not trying to beat you up on it but everyone says 12 months until you are actually looking for a buyer.

i agree with you

Dalai lama · 07-31-2005, 04:44 AM

+- $5k and you should be happy.

gxer · 07-31-2005, 04:50 AM

someone who says it's worth 12 or 20 months of income - please, post here ANY example of such a site which requires 20 mins of daily attention , generates 1K and
may stay forever just because it's "so great site".
There is a reason why this site generates 1K USD per month and without this reason it will not make you penny. Instead of just believe in those "20 min of daily work" you as a normal buyer should ask him " why don't you work on the site 40 min"? may be it will bring you 2K ??
Bullshit about 20 min and bullshit about 1K.
Mainstream sites is a totally different case of course.

AVM · 07-31-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

And seriously, why all the hate?

I have no hate for adult. I have a hate for posuers.

If the topic is how to "run a paysite", I won't slam Lensman. Why? Because, he's done better than I have, in the paysite arena. Okay, well, the same precedent applies for domains. Now, I'm no big dog. I do very very well, but I'm not even a fraction of the size of the big dogs. Nevertheless, regardless of this fact, I know domains. My track record/sales would put 95%+ of the industry to shame. Simple. This is my knack, and for you to give a condescending post questioning how much I pay - is absurd. That's my opinion, but then again, at times I'm a cry baby.

In any case, congrats on your first $15k buy......
lol, this may be a little too late now, but if you ever decide to sell it- uh hem

Paparazzi · 07-31-2005, 03:42 PM

6 months

AVM · 07-31-2005, 03:49 PM

Polish, I was going to reply to this topic - but figured you were better suited, considering the title of the topic.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=497645

4Pics · 07-31-2005, 03:50 PM

who cares, the guy doesn't even want to sell it nor tell anyone what site it is. So for me it's worth $8.88 the cost of the domain name.

baddog · 07-31-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

You guys are nuts. It is 6 months or so. If it is all SEO it is even less. Not trying to beat you up on it but everyone says 12 months until you are actually looking for a buyer.

Have to disagree with you. No one is going to sell a site for 6 months of revenue. What would be the point?

Nicky · 07-31-2005, 03:53 PM

id say you would probably get ~$5k for it if its a adult domain say a tgp etc.....

baddog · 07-31-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Its always been said 3-6 months, or better yet, whatever somebody will pay you.

Same response I gave slapass. 12-18 on an established site depending on what it is. 3 months would be insane.

Sly · 07-31-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Same response I gave slapass. 12-18 on an established site depending on what it is. 3 months would be insane.

Apparently you only read part of my response.

polish_aristocrat · 08-01-2005, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVM

In any case, congrats on your first $15k buy......

learn how to read and then tell me where I said it's my first $15k buy

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07-30-2005, 03:52 PM	#53
AdultMegaCash Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,017	There are other factors here that I have yet to see someone ask. How good is the domain? Is the content exclusive or purchased from a store? Is there content ready for updates? How hard is the content to find? What are the traffic sources for it, are you pumping your own traffic to it, and once it's sold the traffic will drop, or is it from somewhere else, or generated by the site itself? What type of promo material is there for it? What processor is the site under right now? Is the site generating new sales, or is it all rebills? There are more, but I think these are a good start. I would say unless it's a really kick ass site you are looking at 3 maybe 6 months revenue, you need to be able to turn a profit in at most 6 months or you are wasting time. __________________ Do not use Jay AKA Bannerdept.com Click HERE for reasons why!

07-30-2005, 04:43 PM	#54
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07-30-2005, 10:22 PM	#57
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	I understand why buyers are skeptical of large multiples, but the fact that anybody's willing to sell for such tiny ones just blows me away. I guess that's why I won't be selling my blogs any time soon. They've got years of track record showing traffic and revenue growth every month, and the income from my best one compares favorably to good jobs I've held in my life. This is not volatile -- shit could happen, but no way are these blogs going to stop making me money if I pay attention and stay flexible. So you can imagine my suprise when I had some pirate offer me very low five figures for one of my blogs not long ago. WTF? Why would I swap a solid no-end-in-sight income for a paltry few month's revenue? What kind of moron would take that deal? I can't imagine selling any of my sites for less than 3-5 years of revenue. I know buyers won't go there because they don't trust the stability of the revenue, but I don't have that problem -- I know it's stable. Somebody who would sell their site for six month's revenue has got to know the site is about to go KABOOM, else why sell? __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

07-30-2005, 04:47 PM	#55
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	People would give you around 5K$ or so, but I wouldn't sell it for less than 20k$. Hell if I ever would sell.

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07-30-2005, 10:58 PM	#59
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	mainsteam site -> 12 months revenue porn site today -> 6 months revenue I won't pay any more for it!

07-31-2005, 12:36 AM	#61
Satisfaction WootWootCash.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 10,900	lol at the 20 months call

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07-31-2005, 04:50 AM	#68
gxer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location Posts: 846	someone who says it's worth 12 or 20 months of income - please, post here ANY example of such a site which requires 20 mins of daily attention , generates 1K and may stay forever just because it's "so great site". There is a reason why this site generates 1K USD per month and without this reason it will not make you penny. Instead of just believe in those "20 min of daily work" you as a normal buyer should ask him " why don't you work on the site 40 min"? may be it will bring you 2K ?? Bullshit about 20 min and bullshit about 1K. Mainstream sites is a totally different case of course.

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07-31-2005, 03:49 PM	#71
AVM Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: South Florida. Posts: 1,890	Polish, I was going to reply to this topic - but figured you were better suited, considering the title of the topic. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=497645

07-31-2005, 03:50 PM	#72
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	who cares, the guy doesn't even want to sell it nor tell anyone what site it is. So for me it's worth $8.88 the cost of the domain name.

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