Horrible ratios with CCBill sponsors - GoFuckYourself.com

mrkris · 07-28-2005, 06:42 PM

You know what sucks, having no sales with CCBill sponsors. I am talking 0:7538, mostly with phil-flash-cam ... time to drop ...

Lace · 07-28-2005, 06:43 PM

been having the same problem with ccbill lately..

JD · 07-28-2005, 06:49 PM

i'm thinking CCBill scrubs HARD

johnny1 · 07-28-2005, 06:49 PM

I have to say for me Ccbill sites are converting much better then paycom this week..

SteveLightspeed · 07-28-2005, 06:51 PM

This is a bad week across the board. Web porn follows the same trends as retail. Go to a mall, its dead.

Cman · 07-28-2005, 07:03 PM

The only CCBill related sites that have been doing well for me are the XXX Cash Celebrity sites. If not for sex tapes and general interest in celebs, I would have to get a real job

But all the teen / amateur sites have been doing horrible lately.

FTVGirls · 07-28-2005, 07:14 PM

Seems like all our ccbill stats have been down this week; worst I've ever seen in a year. Add to it, the ccbill admin is so butt-slow, its bad as pulling teeth just to change a user/pass.

xNetworx · 07-28-2005, 07:19 PM

Slow here too this wek.. unusual ratios

DateDoc · 07-28-2005, 07:21 PM

only ccbill sponsor that does well for me is hodough

Fetish · 07-28-2005, 08:53 PM

Our sales have actually been kicking but we use our own merchant accounts, not 3rd party processors.

SleazyDream · 07-28-2005, 08:57 PM

i love it when an idiot posts proof his traffic sucks

BillyHoe · 07-28-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i love it when an idiot posts proof his traffic sucks

chadglni · 07-28-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i love it when an idiot posts proof his traffic sucks

You own yourself on so many levels every day it's not even worth a chuckle anymore.

I love when an idiot posts proof he would rather kiss someones ass that he likes / parties with rather than admit something might be fucked up.

Oh, of course I know most of your GFY shit is a board persona. I may be wrong but I don't think you're just talking out of your ass for pageviews when it comes to CCBill.

DivX · 07-28-2005, 09:11 PM

1:4263.7 here

jayeff · 07-28-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i love it when an idiot posts proof his traffic sucks

I love it when an idiot has nothing to say but says it anyway...

llporter · 07-28-2005, 09:30 PM

now the drama begins

angelsofporn · 07-28-2005, 09:31 PM

The past few days have been pretty slow...other program owners i've spoken to are saying similar. Middle of summer...hot as hell...too hot to spank it

BiggleJones · 07-28-2005, 09:32 PM

Yea....dont give up on CCBill sponsers yet. As people said...Epoch's been shitty this week too. I did see a big pickup in sales today though...I think it's getting back to normal.

Pete-KT · 07-28-2005, 09:33 PM

CCBill scrub must be on high

Forkbeard · 07-28-2005, 10:06 PM

My overall CCBill stats are 1:1901 for the week, 1:1758 for the year. Off a bit, but hardly catastrophic.

chadglni · 07-28-2005, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

My overall CCBill stats are 1:1901 for the week, 1:1758 for the year. Off a bit, but hardly catastrophic.

1:xxxx should always be considered catastrophic.

JD · 07-28-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i love it when an idiot posts proof his traffic sucks

swallow my cock you christ fucking ass butler.

spooky181 · 07-28-2005, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

This is a bad week across the board. Web porn follows the same trends as retail. Go to a mall, its dead.

The www is a bit bigger than your city..

Nasty · 07-28-2005, 10:15 PM

ccbill is doing ok for me this week, a lot better than paycom actually

pornguy · 07-28-2005, 10:17 PM

Not doing tooo bad here with ccbill. about 1 in 1k

BIGTYMER · 07-28-2005, 10:20 PM

my ccbill sales suck this week..

faxxaff · 07-28-2005, 10:23 PM

CCbill is slow for me, too.

georgeyw · 07-28-2005, 10:24 PM

yeah my ccbill traffic has been eating a whole lot of shit too...

other programs are rocking tho

Sosa · 07-28-2005, 10:35 PM

these first 4 days of the week have been my best. a few sites have dropped badly, but others have been up thanks to the new yahoo update that happened.

wedouglas · 07-28-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i love it when an idiot posts proof his traffic sucks

how do you know hi traffic sucks? though it is bad ratio, my ccbill stats blow and mine are all highly targetted SE

JD · 07-28-2005, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wedouglas

how do you know hi traffic sucks? though it is bad ratio, my ccbill stats blow and mine are all highly targetted SE

he doesn't. He's just so full of himself that he thinks his shit don't stink. I bet he jacks off to himself standing in a full length mirror.

Sleazy, I hope you die of a stroke you fat peice of shit. Have a nice day

blackfeet · 07-28-2005, 11:29 PM

my ccbill stats are great, it's the traffic that's down.

V_RocKs · 07-28-2005, 11:30 PM

Yeah.. CCBILL sucks cock on the scrub part.

SleazyDream · 07-28-2005, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

You own yourself on so many levels every day it's not even worth a chuckle anymore.

I love when an idiot posts proof he would rather kiss someones ass that he likes / parties with rather than admit something might be fucked up.

Oh, of course I know most of your GFY shit is a board persona. I may be wrong but I don't think you're just talking out of your ass for pageviews when it comes to CCBill.

ummm i use ccbill - and I'd be willing to be do a LOT more volume than you as well, and i don't see a problem with my stats.

course i don't know what i'm talking about - i'm just a dumb tgp guy that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground

chadglni · 07-28-2005, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

ummm i use ccbill - and I'd be willing to be do a LOT more volume than you as well, and i don't see a problem with my stats.

course i don't know what i'm talking about - i'm just a dumb tgp guy that doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground

Your ratios as a sponsor WILL NEVER be as bad as affiliates. Type ins, return traffic, cancells that come back, dropped referrers, etc. You should be able to beat any ratio an affiliate posts here period. What you convert as a sponsor has nothing to do with how an affiliate is converting or the quality of their traffic.

JD · 07-28-2005, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Your ratios as a sponsor WILL NEVER be as bad as affiliates. Type ins, return traffic, cancells that come back, dropped referrers, etc. You should be able to beat any ratio an affiliate posts here period. What you convert as a sponsor has nothing to do with how an affiliate is converting or the quality of their traffic.

CheeseFrog · 07-28-2005, 11:50 PM

I use CCBill and stats this week ... Sunday the 24th in particular... are fucked. I had a ton more affiliate sales than total gross sales and ended up the day with $3.00 net earnings, true story. Now how the fuck does that work?

JD · 07-28-2005, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeseFrog

I use CCBill and stats this week ... Sunday the 24th in particular... are fucked. I had a ton more affiliate sales than total gross sales and ended up the day with $3.00 net earnings, true story. Now how the fuck does that work?

at least it wasn't a loss

Forkbeard · 07-29-2005, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

1:xxxx should always be considered catastrophic.

Yah bullshit. You don't know anything about my traffic, or the paucity of quality sponsors in my niches, or the difficulty of converting marginally-appropriate sponsors because some of my microniches don't have any decent sponsors in them. So basically, you're just talking out your ass, and the crap is getting in your way.

$pikes · 07-29-2005, 12:43 AM

Well.. here's my 2cents.. Our experience is that there is no simple formula for all of us to figure out how the processors are scrubbing. We switch between ccbill and paycom everyday. Some days we are using ccbill first and I often see threads here that same day where people are saying "ccbill must be scrubbing super hard my sales are horrible", but we'll notice that ccbill is kicking ass for us. Even though many of us are using our own affiliate software (nats, mpa3..ect..) and our own link codes, the processors are still able to track an affiliate ID from those codes so, they can scrub per program or per site or per affiliate at any given time (not positive they do but it's possible). Many of us program owners talk to each other.. shows, phone icq... One of our friends that does HUGE numbers figured out over a long term analysis that he does better with ccbill. Another friend does better with paycom. I don't think there's a cut and dry wholesale formula for scrubbing and which company is better. I think it's very random or possibly extreamly precise. Who knows?

Both ccbill and paycom are solid companies and we use (and love) them both. My best suggestion is to use a sponsor that cascades and also watches the numbers 24/7 like a hawk. If there's a scrub problem on a given day or god forbid a dos attack or tech problem for the biller we can switch companies instantly.

STTBoss · 07-29-2005, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

1:xxxx should always be considered catastrophic.

not with ccbill... dunno how they count hits, my outgoing counter shows less clicks than CCBill does, which is really weird

HushMoney · 07-29-2005, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterPorn

only ccbill sponsor that does well for me is hodough

Whoohoo!!!

adonthenet · 07-29-2005, 07:17 AM

1:38 is my ratio...
[ not with ccbill sponser ] haha

07-29-2005, 07:19 AM

I'm doing 1:11593 this month with ccbill sites .. though not allways targeted traffic. Well whatever

JD · 07-29-2005, 08:37 AM

i'm doing 1:30 with MonstersOfCock! I'll be pulling all sponors using CCBill today.

07-28-2005, 06:42 PM	#1
mrkris Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,737	Horrible ratios with CCBill sponsors You know what sucks, having no sales with CCBill sponsors. I am talking 0:7538, mostly with phil-flash-cam ... time to drop ... __________________ PHP-MySQL-Rails \| ICQ: 342500546

07-28-2005, 06:43 PM	#2
Lace Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,116	been having the same problem with ccbill lately.. __________________ Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars \| RadicalCash \| KennysPennies \| HomegrownCash

07-28-2005, 06:49 PM	#4
johnny1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MTL Posts: 872	I have to say for me Ccbill sites are converting much better then paycom this week.. __________________ --------------- ICQ163686688

07-28-2005, 06:51 PM	#5
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	This is a bad week across the board. Web porn follows the same trends as retail. Go to a mall, its dead. __________________ Abra-cadabra!

07-28-2005, 07:03 PM	#6
Cman Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 697	The only CCBill related sites that have been doing well for me are the XXX Cash Celebrity sites. If not for sex tapes and general interest in celebs, I would have to get a real job But all the teen / amateur sites have been doing horrible lately. __________________ I could put stuff here, but you don't care.

07-28-2005, 06:49 PM	#3
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	i'm thinking CCBill scrubs HARD

07-28-2005, 07:14 PM	#7
FTVGirls So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,052	Seems like all our ccbill stats have been down this week; worst I've ever seen in a year. Add to it, the ccbill admin is so butt-slow, its bad as pulling teeth just to change a user/pass.

07-28-2005, 07:19 PM	#8
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Slow here too this wek.. unusual ratios

07-28-2005, 07:21 PM	#9
DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	only ccbill sponsor that does well for me is hodough __________________

07-28-2005, 08:53 PM	#10
Fetish Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 823	Our sales have actually been kicking but we use our own merchant accounts, not 3rd party processors.

07-28-2005, 08:57 PM	#11
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i love it when an idiot posts proof his traffic sucks __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

07-28-2005, 09:11 PM	#14
DivX Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brazil! Posts: 821	1:4263.7 here

07-28-2005, 09:30 PM	#16
llporter Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,221	now the drama begins

07-28-2005, 09:31 PM	#17
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	The past few days have been pretty slow...other program owners i've spoken to are saying similar. Middle of summer...hot as hell...too hot to spank it

07-28-2005, 09:32 PM	#18
BiggleJones Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Downtown LA Posts: 2,276	Yea....dont give up on CCBill sponsers yet. As people said...Epoch's been shitty this week too. I did see a big pickup in sales today though...I think it's getting back to normal. __________________ ICQ-291.596.343

07-28-2005, 09:33 PM	#19
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	CCBill scrub must be on high

07-28-2005, 10:06 PM	#20
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	My overall CCBill stats are 1:1901 for the week, 1:1758 for the year. Off a bit, but hardly catastrophic. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

07-28-2005, 10:15 PM	#24
Nasty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sunny Fucking California Posts: 1,575	ccbill is doing ok for me this week, a lot better than paycom actually __________________ “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

07-28-2005, 10:17 PM	#25
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Not doing tooo bad here with ccbill. about 1 in 1k __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

07-28-2005, 10:20 PM	#26
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	my ccbill sales suck this week..

07-28-2005, 10:23 PM	#27
faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,134	CCbill is slow for me, too. __________________ Asian Babes

07-28-2005, 10:24 PM	#28
georgeyw 58008 53773 Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 9,864	yeah my ccbill traffic has been eating a whole lot of shit too... other programs are rocking tho __________________ TripleXPrint on Megan Fox "I would STILL suck her pussy until her face caved in. And then blow her up and do it again!"

07-28-2005, 10:35 PM	#29
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	these first 4 days of the week have been my best. a few sites have dropped badly, but others have been up thanks to the new yahoo update that happened.

07-28-2005, 11:29 PM	#32
blackfeet Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 589	my ccbill stats are great, it's the traffic that's down.

07-28-2005, 11:30 PM	#33
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Yeah.. CCBILL sucks cock on the scrub part.

07-28-2005, 11:50 PM	#37
CheeseFrog Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 1,724	I use CCBill and stats this week ... Sunday the 24th in particular... are fucked. I had a ton more affiliate sales than total gross sales and ended up the day with $3.00 net earnings, true story. Now how the fuck does that work? __________________ Cary \| AIM: cheesefrog \| ICQ: 4287002

07-29-2005, 12:43 AM	#40
$pikes Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,055	Well.. here's my 2cents.. Our experience is that there is no simple formula for all of us to figure out how the processors are scrubbing. We switch between ccbill and paycom everyday. Some days we are using ccbill first and I often see threads here that same day where people are saying "ccbill must be scrubbing super hard my sales are horrible", but we'll notice that ccbill is kicking ass for us. Even though many of us are using our own affiliate software (nats, mpa3..ect..) and our own link codes, the processors are still able to track an affiliate ID from those codes so, they can scrub per program or per site or per affiliate at any given time (not positive they do but it's possible). Many of us program owners talk to each other.. shows, phone icq... One of our friends that does HUGE numbers figured out over a long term analysis that he does better with ccbill. Another friend does better with paycom. I don't think there's a cut and dry wholesale formula for scrubbing and which company is better. I think it's very random or possibly extreamly precise. Who knows? Both ccbill and paycom are solid companies and we use (and love) them both. My best suggestion is to use a sponsor that cascades and also watches the numbers 24/7 like a hawk. If there's a scrub problem on a given day or god forbid a dos attack or tech problem for the biller we can switch companies instantly. __________________ SMASHBUCKS Paying webmasters on time since 2001 Joe Spikes - ICQ: 160069266

07-29-2005, 07:17 AM	#43
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	1:38 is my ratio... [ not with ccbill sponser ] haha

07-29-2005, 07:19 AM	#44
Gasper Guest Posts: n/a	I'm doing 1:11593 this month with ccbill sites .. though not allways targeted traffic. Well whatever

07-29-2005, 08:37 AM	#45
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	i'm doing 1:30 with MonstersOfCock! I'll be pulling all sponors using CCBill today.