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Brujah · 07-28-2005, 02:43 PM

Domain names changed, context is fucking DEAD ON.

He owns Orange.com and sells orange paint. I have Oranges.com and talk about oranges, with hundreds if not thousands of pages relating to information about oranges. Oranges.com (mine) was registered in 1995 while Orange.com (his) in 1996. He didn't even own Orange.com until a few years ago anyway. He sold his paint from OrangePaint.com. I don't sell paint.

His email:
We sell orange paint and own the site www.orange.com. Because oranges.com is so similar to www.orange.com, we are interested in acquiring it for a reasonable fee. It appears that your firm is simply just squatting on to it. Would you accept $500 plus your costs to transfer over the site?
Best regards,
Larry Loser

What would you reply to Larry ?

Manowar · 07-28-2005, 02:44 PM

The name of this site.

Corleone · 07-28-2005, 02:44 PM

500 ?

wedouglas · 07-28-2005, 02:44 PM

tell him no and to die

Chio The Pirate · 07-28-2005, 02:45 PM

Xenophage · 07-28-2005, 02:46 PM

hahaah now thats a good one tell him 500K and its all his

polish_aristocrat · 07-28-2005, 02:47 PM

how exactly is he trying to steal it?

he just wants to buy it, possibly cheap, nothing wrong with it

Verbal · 07-28-2005, 02:49 PM

tell him to add two zeros and call it a day

DateDoc · 07-28-2005, 02:51 PM

Tell him while you respect his generous offer you are currently in negotiations with other Tropicana and Odwala. Expalin to him what squatting is and ask if he has been painting a lot today because he is obviously out of his mind.

blazin · 07-28-2005, 02:53 PM

Orange.com is a fairly big mobile phone company and a very well known brand in the UK.

DateDoc · 07-28-2005, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazin

Orange.com is a fairly big mobile phone company and a very well known brand in the UK.

www.orange.com is trying to pull one over on Brujah! Posing as a painter selling orange paint. Nice research went into this Brujah!

Rich · 07-28-2005, 02:59 PM

My response would be:

"Add two zeros to your offer and I'll consider it".

WiredGuy · 07-28-2005, 03:01 PM

I'd reply and say you forgot the K at the end of the price.
WG

lazycash · 07-28-2005, 03:01 PM

Send the same info you posted here back to him and explain that he is the one actually squatting and he needs to relinquish orange.com back to you for $500 or you will get your attornys involved, turn the tables on him.

Rich · 07-28-2005, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazin

Orange.com is a fairly big mobile phone company and a very well known brand in the UK.

Read the first line of his post, "domain names changed".

blazin · 07-28-2005, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

Read the first line of his post, "domain names changed".

duh..... got me

alexg · 07-28-2005, 03:03 PM

edit: nevermind

digifan · 07-28-2005, 03:04 PM

company overview

The Orange group is one of the world's largest mobile communications companies, with operations in 19 countries across Europe and beyond. It provides a broad range of voice and data communication services to over 45 million customers worldwide.

alexg · 07-28-2005, 03:06 PM

umm well if these are not the actual domains then how would we know if $500 is a reasonable offer or not?

$500 for orange.com is ridiculous but maybe it's reasonable for the actual domain that you chose not to mention...

polish_aristocrat · 07-28-2005, 03:06 PM

so many ppl cant read wow

After Shock Media · 07-28-2005, 03:07 PM

Dir sir,
Your offer has my family and myself deeply concerned with your well being. We are fairly certain that you have been subjected to the long term effects of paint fumes. This obviously has had a bad effect on your judgment if not other things we are unaware of. We are really concerned for you and honestly suggest you look into increasing your vitamin C intake. I would suggest skipping pills or suplements and go directly to the source, oranges. You can find a wide variety of usefull information throughout www.oranges.com.
Thank you and may you regain your health.

Yes I know the domains are changed in the original.

Linkster · 07-28-2005, 03:07 PM

Never mind didnt read the part about you had already developed the domain

Antonio · 07-28-2005, 03:10 PM

hell, the guy's fishing for a deal, what's wrong with that?

Luc · 07-28-2005, 03:29 PM

reply.. "sir, please submit a real offer when you are no longer high on paint.."

Rich · 07-28-2005, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazin

duh..... got me

Got most people.

High Quality · 07-28-2005, 03:35 PM

Why is this so bad? Rebut with a few extra 0's and move on. I've made ridiculous offers on real estate and got them accepted. Some people are dumb. Ok, so you're not brujah. Good work not being a moron. LOL

Brujah · 07-28-2005, 03:38 PM

lol some great replies. the thing that had me wondering about this guy was he mentioned the term ' squatting ' and used the ' confusingly similiar ' argument. He'll probably take it further.

BradM · 07-28-2005, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterPorn

Tell him while you respect his generous offer you are currently in negotiations with other Tropicana and Odwala. Expalin to him what squatting is and ask if he has been painting a lot today because he is obviously out of his mind.

VERY VERY good.

DaddyHalbucks · 07-28-2005, 03:44 PM

The only legal claim he could have is a possible trademark right.

However, trademarks require distinctiveness. "Orange" is not a very distinctive name, as a dictionary word, it is more descriptive.

Trademarks also normally require first use. If you owned your domain first, that would also weaken his claim.

Definitely don't offer to sell the domain, which could be construed as a "bad faith" offer to sell under the UDRP and the ACPA. Get an NDA first.

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. I manage 17,000 domains.

Rick Latona · 07-28-2005, 03:59 PM

We'd loan you 20 or 30,000 dollars at DigiPawn if you ever needed the quick cash and wanted to put oranges.com up as collateral. I'm just letting you know.

Jace · 07-28-2005, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

We'd loan you 20 or 30,000 dollars at DigiPawn if you ever needed the quick cash and wanted to put oranges.com up as collateral. I'm just letting you know.

<says in a freaky voice>
but what if he didn't even own oranges.com?
</freaky voice>

ooooooo....snap!

tungsten · 07-28-2005, 04:22 PM

$500 is definitely too low

Gunni · 07-28-2005, 04:27 PM

eh did you even look at orange.com?
Just a hint, they do not sell orange paint

Jace · 07-28-2005, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunni

eh did you even look at orange.com?
Just a hint, they do not sell orange paint

read the first line of the entire thread, then read the thread

Manowar · 07-28-2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunni

eh did you even look at orange.com?
Just a hint, they do not sell orange paint

read the thread

Rep · 07-28-2005, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Latona

We'd loan you 20 or 30,000 dollars at DigiPawn if you ever needed the quick cash and wanted to put oranges.com up as collateral. I'm just letting you know.

/rimshot

Thanks for playin' Rick - better luck next time.

Gunni · 07-28-2005, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

read the first line of the entire thread, then read the thread

ah ok, somehow skipped over that.

Personally if it was me and I'd be interested in selling the domain I'd basically tell him that he needs to add a few 0's and come back.
And if he keeps waisting your time just tell him to fuck off

Lee · 07-28-2005, 04:41 PM

They are doing the Nissan tactic of getting you to quote a figure to use it as an argument of cybersquatting for a larger price. However I know you are experienced in the domain name game and can see through that.

darnit · 07-28-2005, 05:41 PM

So what is the actual domain? Tough to determine your response without knowing what the domain is. 500 for oranges.com is to low but if its some crappy domain who knows?

07-28-2005, 02:43 PM	#1
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Check this shit out, guy trying to steal a domain. Domain names changed, context is fucking DEAD ON. He owns Orange.com and sells orange paint. I have Oranges.com and talk about oranges, with hundreds if not thousands of pages relating to information about oranges. Oranges.com (mine) was registered in 1995 while Orange.com (his) in 1996. He didn't even own Orange.com until a few years ago anyway. He sold his paint from OrangePaint.com. I don't sell paint. His email: We sell orange paint and own the site www.orange.com. Because oranges.com is so similar to www.orange.com, we are interested in acquiring it for a reasonable fee. It appears that your firm is simply just squatting on to it. Would you accept $500 plus your costs to transfer over the site? Best regards, Larry Loser What would you reply to Larry ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

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07-28-2005, 02:47 PM	#7
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07-28-2005, 02:51 PM	#9
DateDoc Outside looking in. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: To Hell You Ride Posts: 14,243	Tell him while you respect his generous offer you are currently in negotiations with other Tropicana and Odwala. Expalin to him what squatting is and ask if he has been painting a lot today because he is obviously out of his mind. __________________

07-28-2005, 03:01 PM	#13
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07-28-2005, 02:44 PM	#2
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	The name of this site.

07-28-2005, 02:44 PM	#3
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	500 ?

07-28-2005, 02:44 PM	#4
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	tell him no and to die

07-28-2005, 02:46 PM	#6
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	hahaah now thats a good one tell him 500K and its all his

07-28-2005, 02:49 PM	#8
Verbal Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,420	tell him to add two zeros and call it a day

07-28-2005, 02:53 PM	#10
blazin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,781	Orange.com is a fairly big mobile phone company and a very well known brand in the UK.

07-28-2005, 02:59 PM	#12
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	My response would be: "Add two zeros to your offer and I'll consider it".

07-28-2005, 03:01 PM	#14
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	Send the same info you posted here back to him and explain that he is the one actually squatting and he needs to relinquish orange.com back to you for $500 or you will get your attornys involved, turn the tables on him. __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

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07-28-2005, 03:06 PM	#19
alexg IL4L.com Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Israel - ICQ: 162136565 Posts: 11,287	umm well if these are not the actual domains then how would we know if $500 is a reasonable offer or not? $500 for orange.com is ridiculous but maybe it's reasonable for the actual domain that you chose not to mention... __________________ Find fuck buddies in your area!

07-28-2005, 03:06 PM	#20
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07-28-2005, 03:07 PM	#21
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Dir sir, Your offer has my family and myself deeply concerned with your well being. We are fairly certain that you have been subjected to the long term effects of paint fumes. This obviously has had a bad effect on your judgment if not other things we are unaware of. We are really concerned for you and honestly suggest you look into increasing your vitamin C intake. I would suggest skipping pills or suplements and go directly to the source, oranges. You can find a wide variety of usefull information throughout www.oranges.com. Thank you and may you regain your health. Yes I know the domains are changed in the original. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected] Last edited by After Shock Media; 07-28-2005 at 03:08 PM..

07-28-2005, 03:07 PM	#22
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07-28-2005, 03:10 PM	#23
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07-28-2005, 03:29 PM	#24
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07-28-2005, 03:35 PM	#26
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	Why is this so bad? Rebut with a few extra 0's and move on. I've made ridiculous offers on real estate and got them accepted. Some people are dumb. Ok, so you're not brujah. Good work not being a moron. LOL __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

07-28-2005, 03:38 PM	#27
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	lol some great replies. the thing that had me wondering about this guy was he mentioned the term ' squatting ' and used the ' confusingly similiar ' argument. He'll probably take it further. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

07-28-2005, 03:44 PM	#29
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	The only legal claim he could have is a possible trademark right. However, trademarks require distinctiveness. "Orange" is not a very distinctive name, as a dictionary word, it is more descriptive. Trademarks also normally require first use. If you owned your domain first, that would also weaken his claim. Definitely don't offer to sell the domain, which could be construed as a "bad faith" offer to sell under the UDRP and the ACPA. Get an NDA first. I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. I manage 17,000 domains. __________________ Boner Money

07-28-2005, 03:59 PM	#30
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07-28-2005, 04:27 PM	#33
Gunni Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,385	eh did you even look at orange.com? Just a hint, they do not sell orange paint

07-28-2005, 04:41 PM	#38
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	They are doing the Nissan tactic of getting you to quote a figure to use it as an argument of cybersquatting for a larger price. However I know you are experienced in the domain name game and can see through that.

07-28-2005, 05:41 PM	#39
darnit Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Teh Interweb Posts: 2,439	So what is the actual domain? Tough to determine your response without knowing what the domain is. 500 for oranges.com is to low but if its some crappy domain who knows?