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Old 07-26-2005, 03:55 PM   #1
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:mad It's official: Americans can no longer take prescription birth control for granted.

It's official: Americans can no longer take prescription birth control for granted. Yesterday, Monday, July 25, anti-choice representatives in the U.S. House made it clear that they support pharmacies that refuse to fill birth-control prescriptions - and that women have no right to birth control.


The radical right's campaign to stop birth control
The House Small Business Committee held a hearing on whether pharmacies should be allowed to refuse to fill women's prescriptions. Anti-choice Rep. Steve King (R-IA) told a witness, who had been denied birth control and emergency contraception by her pharmacist, that she had no "right" to her prescriptions - she only believed she did. Anti-choice Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO) told a witness whose prescription had also been rejected by a hostile pharmacist, that her "minor inconvenience" - that is, risking an unintended pregnancy - was nothing compared to the "conscience" of a pharmacist.


The right's anti-birth control campaign doesn't stop in Washington, DC. Across the country, the radical right has engaged pharmacies in its campaign to block women's access to birth control. Women like Julee Lacey, a 32-year-old married mother of two and first-grade teacher from Texas, are being turned away by vigilante pharmacists who think it's their job to dispense morals instead of medicine.


Now, as many as 20 states officially protect pharmacists like Karen Brauer, president of Pharmacists for Life, who says she'd lecture women customers to get off the pill. Other states are pursuing an even more aggressive strategy. Just last month Wisconsin passed a bill to block state universities from filling birth control prescriptions.
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:57 PM   #2
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guess its time to put the pull out method into effect...
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This is getting to be re-god-damn-diculous
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:10 PM   #4
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birth control should be mandatory
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i seriously start to think that a good part of the people living in the US have serious mental issues...
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Maybe they should have used their right to choose a different fucking profession!
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I hope all those pharmacists have sexually active teenage daughters.
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motherfucking cow ball hahahahas, id fucking flip out on a pharmacist if i was ever told that shit i would litteraly drag the bitch out from over the counter and fucking beat her shit in
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They better stop pulling money from welfare programs if they are going to take away birth control, lol.
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They better stop pulling money from welfare programs if they are going to take away birth control, lol.
like the people on welfare use birthcontrol
20% increase per child! lets have 12
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I have been reading some odd bills being passed by the government lately. Its just appalling.
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like the people on welfare use birthcontrol
20% increase per child! lets have 12
You think it's bad now, just watch if they take BC from them. And you know, of course there are assholes who abuse the system, but there are also families who work hard and still can't make ends meet.
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You think it's bad now, just watch if they take BC from them. And you know, of course there are assholes who abuse the system, but there are also families who work hard and still can't make ends meet.
nearly everyone on welfare is abusing it and on welfare because they are irresponsible. they didnt use BC and found themselves with a child by accident. if you cant afford to save a portion of your income for a rainy day you shouldnt have children. if you dont have children, you dont get welfare. people are irresponsible and being rewarded for it. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO LIVE AND SUPPORT CHILDREN, YOU SHOULDNT HAVE THEM and i dont feel sorry for you if you arent making ends meet. of course there are a few instances where this doesnt apply such as injury where an income is cut or eliminated but for the most part the people in the system are people who have no business having children.
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Fucking hell, America is turning even more into a bigger shithole.
ya, i agree. just think, 6 yrs ago, everything was fine. now we're at war, for no reason, in the wrong country, fucking over the countrys we HAD good alliances with, women are losing their right to birth control, 25% tax on porn, 2257 shit, we're running out of oil & power for electricity faster than expected, whats next??

they need to change the slogan "land of the free" to just "home of the brave that stay here"
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nearly everyone on welfare is abusing it and on welfare because they are irresponsible. they didnt use BC and found themselves with a child by accident. if you cant afford to save a portion of your income for a rainy day you shouldnt have children. if you dont have children, you dont get welfare. people are irresponsible and being rewarded for it. IF YOU CANT AFFORD TO LIVE AND SUPPORT CHILDREN, YOU SHOULDNT HAVE THEM and i dont feel sorry for you if you arent making ends meet. of course there are a few instances where this doesnt apply such as injury where an income is cut or eliminated but for the most part the people in the system are people who have no business having children.
To a point, I agree. But I got pregnant at 16 from a non-consentual situation...I hesitate to say rape only because I don't want it to ever hit my son's ears that he was a product of rape. Had it not been for welfare, I would not have been able to graduate high school with my class, and go on to college. I worked, went to high school, and then college, and raised my son, and had no more children for seven years, until I was married.

Things happen...

I know one girl who's fiance got sent to prison....they went from living comfortably on two incomes, to her struggling to support their kids, because he can't pay support from prison. It wasn't HER fault he broke the law...and she DID have money put away, but it didn't last five years.

My son's father was killed in a car accident..his current wife and their three kids were in the car. Their daughter was in traction for a while, and still needs physical therapy, nearly three years later. She was a stay at home mom before. She had to care for a temporarily disabled daughter, but even without that, her kids were emotionally scarred from watching their dad get killed a foot away from them, and they were not ready to be apart from the one parent they had left for a few months. Welfare got them over the hump. Now she works.

There are people who genuinely need the help, and don't abuse it. They accept temporary assistance and get back up on their own two feet, and pay the same taxes you do. Without the help I got..I may not have ever been able to graduate high school..certainly not with my class..because instead of working part time, I would have had to work full time..and then some to cover child care. And then I would REALLY be a drain on the system, because without an education, I probably wouldn't be able to support my three kids now that I am a single mom again, and my ex doesn't seem to think he needs to support the two he helped bring into this world.

Not every person abuses the help they are given. But I guess we are both right, because a lot do.
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To a point, I agree. But I got pregnant at 16 from a non-consentual situation...I hesitate to say rape only because I don't want it to ever hit my son's ears that he was a product of rape. Had it not been for welfare, I would not have been able to graduate high school with my class, and go on to college. I worked, went to high school, and then college, and raised my son, and had no more children for seven years, until I was married.

Things happen...

I know one girl who's fiance got sent to prison....they went from living comfortably on two incomes, to her struggling to support their kids, because he can't pay support from prison. It wasn't HER fault he broke the law...and she DID have money put away, but it didn't last five years.

My son's father was killed in a car accident..his current wife and their three kids were in the car. Their daughter was in traction for a while, and still needs physical therapy, nearly three years later. She was a stay at home mom before. She had to care for a temporarily disabled daughter, but even without that, her kids were emotionally scarred from watching their dad get killed a foot away from them, and they were not ready to be apart from the one parent they had left for a few months. Welfare got them over the hump. Now she works.

There are people who genuinely need the help, and don't abuse it. They accept temporary assistance and get back up on their own two feet, and pay the same taxes you do. Without the help I got..I may not have ever been able to graduate high school..certainly not with my class..because instead of working part time, I would have had to work full time..and then some to cover child care. And then I would REALLY be a drain on the system, because without an education, I probably wouldn't be able to support my three kids now that I am a single mom again, and my ex doesn't seem to think he needs to support the two he helped bring into this world.

Not every person abuses the help they are given. But I guess we are both right, because a lot do.
theres always exceptions but the sad reality is most, ie more then 50%, abuse it and/or are on it because of poor planning. another sad thing about it is had that happened to you now in california and you had a minimim wage job, even close to full time you wouldnt qualify because theres a line infront with no income and 5 mouths to feed.
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Anti-choice? Does that make the other side Anti-life?

This post doesn't have anything to do with my views on aborition I just find the terms funny. I avoid political threads here almost as much as I do business threads
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Apparently these people thing that women only take those so they can fuck all they want. Some of us actually take them for hormonal regulation. It's estrogen people. I have a medical reason to use them. It sucks to miss work becuase you are in the fetal position from paid and can't eat solid food for 3 days due to swinging hormones. But considering most of those "anti-choice" people are male, I doubt they would understand that.
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I dont think you guys understand.


What they are saying is that the guy who owns the private business has the right to sell anything he wants.


The customer cant demand that he provide a product that he doesn't carry.

That would be like a surfer sueing you because you dont have enough gay porn on your site. Tell him to go somewhere else.
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You cant ignore a pun like that!!

I seriously think that in 18 months you will all have no choice but to work off-shore.


Who was that time travelling bloke... didnt he predict this?
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I think the US is going to put slavery back into place soon with how things are going..

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What they are saying is that the guy who owns the private business has the right to sell anything he wants.


The customer cant demand that he provide a product that he doesn't carry.

That would be like a surfer sueing you because you dont have enough gay porn on your site. Tell him to go somewhere else.
BS.... They are professionals providing a service to the community the same way a Dr or Hospital would.

A Dr might not like treating a particular patient because of his/her beliefs, but they still do it. Some people take a job where they just cant be judgemental.

They knew that when they started. What if it is the only pharmacist in town.... leave it so she has an unnecessary abortion?

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What they are saying is that the guy who owns the private business has the right to sell anything he wants.


The customer cant demand that he provide a product that he doesn't carry.

That would be like a surfer sueing you because you dont have enough gay porn on your site. Tell him to go somewhere else.
You're a fucking idiot.

A pharmacist has a responsibility to provide all legally available drugs and medications irrespective of their personal beliefs.

If your personal beliefs prevent you from providing birth control pills then find another fucking profession other than a pharmacist.

In my view, these pharmacists should be made to pay for the upbringing of children that were conceived because they refused to supply birth control pills to a woman who requested them and was legally entitled to them.
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Can I see a stat on some government website for that please? There's no way of measuring. Yes, you hear and know of people abusing it, but to say 50% or more isn't really fair. Even 10-20% abusing it isn't good; it doesn't matter if it's higher than that. If it is at 50% abuse, it's because a large portion can't get jobs or can't get funding for education, and some yes are lazy.

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guess its time to put the pull out method into effect...
That's how I almost became a father 3 times..use a rubber
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What they are saying is that the guy who owns the private business has the right to sell anything he wants.


The customer cant demand that he provide a product that he doesn't carry.

That would be like a surfer sueing you because you dont have enough gay porn on your site. Tell him to go somewhere else.
That's exactly what it's saying. I thought this was always the law anyway... I'm surprised it took this long.
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Honestly, theoretically speaking, the 'best way' which shouldn't be done because it's the wrong way, is if you want an issue looked at differently, or looked at, is to affect the politicians who make decisions, eg: knock up all their daughters and wives for the abortion issue, give them different diseases, out and blackmail the gay/bi-sexual/homosexual tendancy politicians ... etc. or even simple things like seeing how many of the politician's daughters use birth control, or hell, are having pre-marital sex... and stick it to them that this is the world as it is, and not when they grew up.

Biggest problem with politicians is they're old.

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All Hail Bush he was the best thing that happened to this country, and if you believe that i have a bridge to sell you. This country is going to shit and it is a matter of time before we are not the dominate power anymore. Bush will go down in the history books as the President who brought America Down, you mark my words it will happen. They always said the Devil would walk the earth again, and now we know he is in Washington.
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All Hail Bush he was the best thing that happened to this country, and if you believe that i have a bridge to sell you. This country is going to shit and it is a matter of time before we are not the dominate power anymore. Bush will go down in the history books as the President who brought America Down, you mark my words it will happen. They always said the Devil would walk the earth again, and now we know he is in Washington.
That opinion is shared by many.. even the Pope [the last one] thought Bush might be the anti-Christ.

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Wait until one of thier daughters wants to be on the pill.
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:50 PM   #42
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link please?
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:54 PM   #43
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It's official: Americans can no longer take prescription birth control for granted. Yesterday, Monday, July 25, anti-choice representatives in the U.S. House made it clear that they support pharmacies that refuse to fill birth-control prescriptions - and that women have no right to birth control.


The radical right's campaign to stop birth control
The House Small Business Committee held a hearing on whether pharmacies should be allowed to refuse to fill women's prescriptions. Anti-choice Rep. Steve King (R-IA) told a witness, who had been denied birth control and emergency contraception by her pharmacist, that she had no "right" to her prescriptions - she only believed she did. Anti-choice Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO) told a witness whose prescription had also been rejected by a hostile pharmacist, that her "minor inconvenience" - that is, risking an unintended pregnancy - was nothing compared to the "conscience" of a pharmacist.


The right's anti-birth control campaign doesn't stop in Washington, DC. Across the country, the radical right has engaged pharmacies in its campaign to block women's access to birth control. Women like Julee Lacey, a 32-year-old married mother of two and first-grade teacher from Texas, are being turned away by vigilante pharmacists who think it's their job to dispense morals instead of medicine.


Now, as many as 20 states officially protect pharmacists like Karen Brauer, president of Pharmacists for Life, who says she'd lecture women customers to get off the pill. Other states are pursuing an even more aggressive strategy. Just last month Wisconsin passed a bill to block state universities from filling birth control prescriptions.

southerngirl do you have a link to this news story .. if so would you please post ? This needs to be read by every woman in the USA imho
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:24 PM   #44
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Wait until one of thier daughters wants to be on the pill.
I bet they both are, it's just hush-hush; them getting pregnant before marriage would be worse...

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Old 07-26-2005, 09:30 PM   #45
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you gotta be kidding me... if my pharmacist told me no, id go knock up his duaghter and hit the road. see how he likes that.
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Old 07-26-2005, 09:35 PM   #46
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I foresee a large migration of US citizens to other countries...not large as in half the population.. just to clarify.

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Old 07-26-2005, 09:42 PM   #47
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very scary we are such a country of extremes
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:51 PM   #48
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Apparently these people thing that women only take those so they can fuck all they want. Some of us actually take them for hormonal regulation. It's estrogen people. I have a medical reason to use them. It sucks to miss work becuase you are in the fetal position from paid and can't eat solid food for 3 days due to swinging hormones. But considering most of those "anti-choice" people are male, I doubt they would understand that.
You're just a whiney liberal who won't suck it up to do the right thing, just like those AIDS and cancer patients who think they have the right to anything that works for them. The country admires a glaucoma patient who goes blind to remain legal, quit your bitchen' and let those hormones swing the way God intended them to.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:01 PM   #49
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I don't think so it will work...
So meaning they could have sex all the time? without prescription?
That's sad, too bad now our population get worst...
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:10 PM   #50
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I don't think so it will work...
So meaning they could have sex all the time? without prescription?
That's sad, too bad now our population get worst...
OK.... Im looking for a pic of a black guy with a gun..... possibly from a Tarantino film.
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