they're best viewed alongside Lee's comments

they way we designed his site, was firstly doing up a bunch of ideas, so he can pick the best one, then once he picked his favorite, we developed it as per his instructions and changes, basically whatever he asked for we did

Which is why I don't get Lee's comments about quality - the design is a direct reflection of Lee's ideas, if I post each version of the design alongside Lee's comments then people will see how it evolved, and the fact that we did everything Lee specified.

Which is why I'm a bit confused about his quality concerns, it's taken two years for him to mention them, it sounds to me like he's trying anything to get out of paying

I'm a bit concerned as to how this situation qualifies me as a 'cocksucker(s)':

- You ordered a design two years ago, and have never paid for it

- Now you want to use a GFY audience to determine if you should or should not pay. (are you going to be asking GFY next if you should pay your hosting / internet / electricity bills?)

I don't see what you have against me? Seems you've scammed me and have lost nothing, I am the one who still has not seen a penny for the design work.

It should be quite clear from the responses here how GFY feels about this

he said it was pure shit. ive seen alot of your work, so i dont think that can be true.

ofcourse everyone would like to see to see if his story can even hold a drop of water.

so, is it possible to see the examples?

Why isn't your alternate tour on Fletch Bucks?

Some real drama, This isn't going to end good, it all depends on the work.

Which still, hasnt been posted, anyone want to take a guess why? :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

how about you respond to my posts first, then I'll post everything - all versions of the site & the entire email history of the project - and then you can pay up, how does that sound?

I like that idea. I want to see these designs.

Andrew, i suggest you talk to Wade, we both discussed the 'quality' issue in Vegas this year, not my fault that you havent heard about it from him.

Now post the designs damnit.

Dont forget that you also need to post a statement saying they are of the same quality of the sites in your portfolio, you wouldnt want to mislead anyone now would you :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

Lee - you've never responded to my questions - why do you keep dodging the issues?

I've said I will post everything as soon as you respond to my posts

50 cocksuckers that don't pay their bill.... eat it woj :pimp

well fagboy?

put up or shut the fuck up.

and if u think for 1 moment ggw has more traffic then eather men.com or weed.com you need to lay off the cock you are smoking. its going to your head.

i dont give a fuck what your alexa ranking says. fucking idiot.

You never asked any questions asshole.

You posted 'statements'.

Now post the fucking designs already, its about time you got yours for letting this shitty lame-ass drama drag on for almost 2 years.

Regards,

Lee

Can you respond to this Lee?

Don't you want to defend yourself?

No i dont have to defend myself, your design work will speak for itself once you post it.

Come on, get it posted, we dont want to be giving you time to make a new design up.

Post the work on your next reply please, GFY is waiting.

Regards,

Lee

his question is simple. what is your excuse for not paying him what you owe him scammer.

Sorry Lee, I will put a question mark on them if that helps you realise they were directed at you.

Also, name calling is a little bit immature don't you think?


I'm a bit confused.

When this story broke on GFY almost a year ago - you said you had every intention of paying, you were just too busy to respond to my emails / icq's for the past year.

You then said you weren't going to pay because I ruined the launch of your new website by posting the work on GFY.

You never once mentioned you had any concerns about the design itself or it's quality (we did around 15 versions for you and carried out all the changes you required)

And now, after two years, while I'm still unpaid for the design, you've got a new excuse.

So can you make up your mind and stick to one excuse? It's pretty weak when you keep changing, it really makes any potential case you have look pathetic.

So, what do you say to this? Am I telling the truth or are you lying?

I am waiting as I like looking at Blue Design's as they tend to be very good :)

You are telling truth, so am i.

As per my conversation with Wade during this years Internext show, its not my fault that the communication between you two appears to have broken down on what appears to be, such an important issue for you both.

Now post the design, you dont want to give me the chance to tell GFY that the designs you post arent the same i was shown do you?

Post them on your next reply please, again, GFY is waiting for them.

Dont forget to tell everyone that the quality is also the same as in your portfolio :)

Regards,

Lee

Be prepared to be shocked then :winkwink:

Regards,

Lee

That's total bullshit and you know it

Just post the god damn designs already.

If you dont post them on your next reply, you are out of luck sonny.

Regards,

Lee

last time I posted the design on GFY, you told me that I ruined the launch of your new site.

Correct?

Correct.

Because the work wasnt complete.

Now post them already, all 15(?) did you say there was?

Regards,

Lee

Or if you dont have all 15 to hand with the revisions, feel free to post the initial one you showed me and the final one you say you showed me :)

Either way is good with me.

Regards,

Lee

its not like you are going to see dime one out of this fucking scammer.

you might as well post the designs for 2 reasons

1 to shut the cocksucker up
2 to plug your designs and hopefully score a paying webmaster for upcomming projects.

this thread is a sad state of affairs.Good thing stupid shit like this wouldnt be tolerated in any real workplace

Agreed, they would have just taken me to court if they thought that they had a case.

Ah well, you live and learn [shrug]

Regards,

Lee

if I was him I'd just turn your cocksmoking ass over to a collection agency or an attorney. You're the one with the problem, YOU post them.

You seem to be missing the fact that i CANT post them because they were never sent to me :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

GFY is still waiting Andrew, you going to post them or what?

Regards,

Lee

I know, it's sad that there are scammers out there like Lee

YOU seem to be missing the point that everyone here knows that Blue Design is a reputable company that turns out top-notch work and never gets a complaint, whereas you're a knobgobbler always looking for a new thread to show your ass in. I hope they sue you.

Post them or give this shit up and admit you were at fault, simple choice.

If you want, ill take the fact you dont post them as an admission and you'll hear nothing more of this topic from me, your call sparky :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

Lee, you are lying, let me prove it:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...eadid=347543&s

How could you post here if you hadn't seen the designs?

cocksucking, big mouthed scammers that will run the other direction in fl at mere sight of a few people.

Ok so you are saying if I post the desings, you will pay for them?

But they've already been posted and you never paid for them - why should I believe you now?

Because, as you pointed out in that thread, that was for REVISIONS of the original work.

C'mon man just post the god damn things, im missing out on drinking time at the club.

Regards,

Lee

is that hurricane still stopping you from contacting me?

No i am saying if you post the designs, and GFY agree's that they are up to your usual standard of work, as seen in your current portfolio i will pay for the work, no questions asked.

Of course, if they ARENT the usual standard of work in your portfolio, what do i get out of it?

How about an apology for all this shit you started?

Regards,

Lee