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Old 06-09-2005, 02:56 PM   #1
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2257 Exempt Image???

Based on the letter of the law this image is compliant, or did I miss something?

AaronM you seem to know this shit pretty well what do you think... Besides that I am a Jackass.

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that is not compliant if that is actual semen coming from a actual cock
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:58 PM   #3
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that is not compliant is that is actual semen coming from a actual cock
how do you know that? Do you see the cock?
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Based on the letter of the law this image is compliant, or did I miss something?

AaronM you seem to know this shit pretty well what do you think... Besides that I am a Jackass.

it could be sperm, yogurt, cream, sun lotion, tooth paste, so yeah, I would say it is legal.
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could be bird shit... lol
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it looks like something i have seen earlier today in reality - and it missed my camera by just a few inch...
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That huge load and the "www.peter" gives it away...
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could be bird shit... lol
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peter north is getting old. it doesn't even look like the initial burst gives them welts anymore.
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That huge load and the "www.peter" gives it away...
That is not fact... And giving it away has nothing to do with it. Based on the letter of the LAW how would you see this as coming out... Compliant and usable without record keeping, or not compliant and must have records as a secondary producer.
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lol i'm thinking it's legal
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Is it cropped from a sexually explicit image?
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Is it cropped from a sexually explicit image?

Ding, Ding!! we have a winner.

Eric that image may or may not be compliant. If it was cropped from a sexually explicit image your answer is NO. it would require doc's.


I know some may say " how would they ever know, they are not going to look at every thumb?" thats a great point, but something tells me the large load of what appears to be something resembling sperm would make it a canidate to be reviewed.

In short can't tell without the original photo to compare it to.
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:52 PM   #14
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but i thought it was tooth paste!!!!!
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it could be sperm, yogurt, cream, sun lotion, tooth paste, so yeah, I would say it is legal.
(this is nothing against you personally)

i would say these are very shortsighted and immature arguments and i keep seeing them again and again.

the real question to you would then be; "would you bet 250,000.00 on defense lawyers, 100,000 in fines and 5 years in prison that the federal prosecutors will agree with you"

"legal" is a question of interpretation. the laws are new and ultimately, "legal" will be determined in a court of law. and furthermore, "legal" will probably be defined at the expense of someone making such arguments.
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AaronM you seem to know this shit pretty well what do you think... Besides that I am a Jackass.

Well...Since you brought it up....

I also think that your are a back stabbing cry baby who has a seriously over inflated ego which bruises easily...Even though you pretend to not be bothered by it.

I think you should have learned how to be a team player before you became a team leader.

I think that I've been seeing more and more Adult.com program "announcements" on GFY lately and I can't help but wonder why several of the employees of adult.com have decided to start pushing RealityCash so heavily in the past week or so. Perhaps the "Marketing Mastermind" finally got off his ass and did something of value for his employer?


Let me see...What else do I think......????

Hmmmm......I think it's shitty that you stand up and take credit for the "time and finances" that "YOU" have put into the Webmaster Access events when in all reality, You are paid for your time and the expenses have fuck all to do with you....Yet, you stand there with a shit eating grin on your face every time and accept the acknowledgement instead of redirecting the credit where the credit is due....To Lensman AND the TEAM of employees who TRY to work with you.

I also think it's very nice of Lensman to take note of how threatened you were by him hiring RRRed and then allowing you to hire your personal lap dog, Ramos to re-inflate your head a bit.

I have other thoughts as well but we can't discuss them all in one thread on the same day.

Thank you for asking my opinion though....Mighty white of you
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Even if it might be legal to show that without docs, I still wouldn't want to touch it. The DOJ has considerable leeway when it comes to enforcement, and trying to get aound regulations with clever loopholes will cause more problems than good. Unless that image is at suntanlotionfetish.com, it'd be safe to assume some porn investigator will assume it to be semen.
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Based on the letter of the law this image is compliant, or did I miss something?


Oh shit...I guess I overlooked that part.

Is that image compliant? That depends on whether or not you have the 2257 docs for it all filed properly. The image itself was part of an explicit hardcore shoot and as such, cropping the image as you have done does not make it immune to any 2257 requirement of the past, present, or future.

I suggest you stick to what it is that you know best......Er...Shit...Maybe that's not such a good idea either.

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(this is nothing against you personally)

i would say these are very shortsighted and immature arguments and i keep seeing them again and again.

the real question to you would then be; "would you bet 250,000.00 on defense lawyers, 100,000 in fines and 5 years in prison that the federal prosecutors will agree with you"

"legal" is a question of interpretation. the laws are new and ultimately, "legal" will be determined in a court of law. and furthermore, "legal" will probably be defined at the expense of someone making such arguments.
i was joking

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I guess if that pic is linked to a page or a larger pic that shows a penis, than you're fucked...
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Most of you laugh, but this is really important to TGP, and MGP owners... In the future we will could use that as a workaround on the 2257 issue relatest to my TGP's
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how do you know that? Do you see the cock?
he doesnt thats why he said if :P
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Well...Since you brought it up....

I also think that your are a back stabbing cry baby who has a seriously over inflated ego which bruises easily...Even though you pretend to not be bothered by it.

I think you should have learned how to be a team player before you became a team leader.

I think that I've been seeing more and more Adult.com program "announcements" on GFY lately and I can't help but wonder why several of the employees of adult.com have decided to start pushing RealityCash so heavily in the past week or so. Perhaps the "Marketing Mastermind" finally got off his ass and did something of value for his employer?


Let me see...What else do I think......????

Hmmmm......I think it's shitty that you stand up and take credit for the "time and finances" that "YOU" have put into the Webmaster Access events when in all reality, You are paid for your time and the expenses have fuck all to do with you....Yet, you stand there with a shit eating grin on your face every time and accept the acknowledgement instead of redirecting the credit where the credit is due....To Lensman AND the TEAM of employees who TRY to work with you.

I also think it's very nice of Lensman to take note of how threatened you were by him hiring RRRed and then allowing you to hire your personal lap dog, Ramos to re-inflate your head a bit.

I have other thoughts as well but we can't discuss them all in one thread on the same day.

Thank you for asking my opinion though....Mighty white of you
Come on man let it all out... We are here for you. Too bad you are completely incorrect.
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Most of you laugh, but this is really important to TGP, and MGP owners... In the future we will could use that as a workaround on the 2257 issue relatest to my TGP's
You are exactly correct. This is a huge issue for TGP and MGP guys. Shit that should be taken very seriously.
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the ignorance in this thread on the new (and old) 2257 laws is amazing

if you have a womans face cropped out of a picture, and the original picture was deemed sexually explicit, THAN YOU MUST HAVE DOCS FOR THE THUMB....even if it is just a crop out of the face
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Isnt that the fake cock that shoots pina colada?
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Come on man let it all out... We are here for you. Too bad you are completely incorrect.

Is the word "denial" in your vocabulary?
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what about gorilla gras

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the ignorance in this thread on the new (and old) 2257 laws is amazing

if you have a womans face cropped out of a picture, and the original picture was deemed sexually explicit, THAN YOU MUST HAVE DOCS FOR THE THUMB....even if it is just a crop out of the face

THAN?

It's "THEN" you ignorant fuck stick.

Of course....I'm the guy who mistyped "you are" as "your are" in a reply above so.....WTF do I really know about spelling anyway?
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Most of you laugh, but this is really important to TGP, and MGP owners... In the future we will could use that as a workaround on the 2257 issue relatest to my TGP's

I think a whole lot of people need to change the way they are looking at things.

On purpose or by mistake you used the phrase "workaround" most people are stuck in this "workaround" mindset.

IMHO I think we would all be best suited to get in a " Work within" mindset.
We all need to work within the parameters that our lawyers have advised us.

If you are one of what I suspect to be dozens of webmasters. ( tgp, mgp, freesites ect..) that do not have your own legal counsel. I would do my best to error on the side of caution, and stop trying to talk yourself into something that is fringe. And for gods sake be very careful listening to the " GFY crack legal posting team" who themselves have not consulted a lawyer and have done their best to review the new regulations and figure it out. I am very worried for some of you trying to justify things you know will put you at a higher risk. But I guess someone has got to get busted first. Better to get a clarification of the laws on your dime not mine i suppose.
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Nope. Throwing milk on someones face doesn not need 2257
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Jesus Christ am I the only guy that wishes threads had a little drama image on the front page? I just happened into this and can't believe what I'm reading.

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Nope. Throwing milk on someones face doesn not need 2257

And that is the conclusion they will come too after they show up at your home. and have gone though every record for every photo you have filed and cross ref'd by url , producer, model name, stage name. and given them a cup of coffee after your done changing the pants you just shit and explained to the neighbor who the nice men in the black suits are.

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LOL, this could be a girl out for a fun day in the park with her friend who started a food fight. But, if its from an adult site...and if it's questionable to you, it will be to 'them' so have ass covered and have doc handy- just in case.
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LOL, this could be a girl out for a fun day in the park with her friend who started a food fight. But, if its from an adult site...and if it's questionable to you, it will be to 'them' so have ass covered and have doc handy- just in case.
Could a food fight be deemed sexually explicit? Guess it all depends which food products and what she decides to do with it eh?
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THAN?

It's "THEN" you ignorant fuck stick.

Of course....I'm the guy who mistyped "you are" as "your are" in a reply above so.....WTF do I really know about spelling anyway?
hey man, i never claimed i was a grammarologistic genius
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:02 PM   #47
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Just stick to softcore and you won't have any problems.
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:10 PM   #48
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Well...Since you brought it up....
I also think it's very nice of Lensman to take note of how threatened you were by him hiring RRRed and then allowing you to hire your personal lap dog, Ramos to re-inflate your head a bit.

I have other thoughts as well but we can't discuss them all in one thread on the same day.
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:14 PM   #49
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Dude... that's one scary looking dog you got there. Does it bite?
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Old 06-09-2005, 06:16 PM   #50
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man.. you left me out again.. what the fuck
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