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Old 07-13-2005, 12:43 PM   #51
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:45 PM   #52
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Some of the smartest words I´ve heard in a long time.

Thanks Vanessa.....I could write a book. I am also a "guest writer" on watchersweb and will be sure to write some extra special words about you next time a see one of your sets.

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Old 07-13-2005, 12:48 PM   #53
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I have helped over 20 girls get started and not one has come close to making a living from it.
How could that be possible? WoW!

That is crazy... !
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:49 PM   #54
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In general advice given on GFY is not too valuable. Actually some gems of advice are available, but there is a very bad signal to noise ratio on GFY which makes the good advice usally go un-noticed.

In general it is true that single girl sites done by the model herself, do poorly. A variety of reasons - usually the model has an unrealistic opinion of her marketability, the web site is bad, the shooting is bad, no marketing or technical expertise, etc. I know about a dozen attractive models that bombed out on that route, often pressured by greedy webmasters and photographers who got high fees to make a site that sucked.

The correct answer really is, if you have a good idea, high marketing potential (you are hot) AND you can get shoots done cheap AND you can get them edited nicely AND you can get a good webmaster to design things AND you can get a good techie to hook you up with reliable cheap hosting AND you know how to promote porn - then you have a good shot, otherwise its an uphill battle.
Also very nicely put!!!!

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Old 07-13-2005, 12:52 PM   #55
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I have helped over 20 girls get started and not one has come close to making a living from it.
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Thanks Vanessa.....I could write a book.
hmmm, yeah aspiring solo models from all over who arent interested in making a living from it will be buying your book.
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:56 PM   #56
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A lot of work to get a site up and running to make a profit. My is to hook up with someone worthwhile in the business. Part of the problem as I see it is that you're way out somewhere in TN. So hard for many face to face meetings. You'll need tons of content and money for marketing. Remember the Traffic, Traffic, Traffic post.

Crazy Naked Chick put up a great site. I'd consider a partner arrangement, but there are others around with more $$ and more experience.

Good luck! When that affiliate program comes online, hit me up.
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:56 PM   #57
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How could that be possible? WoW!

That is crazy... !
By not working hard enough and not putting enough quailty hours in. Most of all thought it's the frustration after three months.

It takes six months to a year for a girl on her own to start seeing some decent return unlike when I started in 1997 I was making $6000 per month after 90 days and much more than taht for the next few years. Once internet porn saturation set in though it was twice the amount of work for half the money.

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Old 07-13-2005, 12:59 PM   #58
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By not working hard enough and not putting enough quailty hours in. Most of all thought it's the frustration after three months.

It takes six months to a year for a girl on her own to start seeing some decent return unlike when I started in 1997 I was making $6000 per month after 90 days and much more than taht for the next few years. Once internet porn saturation set in though it was twice the amount of work for half the money.

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camcutie, nice site and great advice.

when you say put in quality hours do you mean on cam or producing photos and videos?

what is a good number of hours er day to be on cam to satisfy members?
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Old 07-13-2005, 01:03 PM   #59
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hmmm, yeah aspiring solo models from all over who arent interested in making a living from it will be buying your book.
Smarty pants!!! When I said I COULD write a book, it is an expression (form of speech). I know a lot about why solo girls websites do not succeed is all I was saying. The book will never be written. Now I could also write a book about how to make living as a solo girl with her own website but then we go back to the fact that hardly any of them would actually make it. Kind of like the "real estate" marketing seminars people pay millions for. I would venture to say that the "no money down" concept sold by those guys has gotten very few people rich.

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Old 07-13-2005, 01:12 PM   #60
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camcutie, nice site and great advice.

when you say put in quality hours do you mean on cam or producing photos and videos?

what is a good number of hours er day to be on cam to satisfy members?
Quality hours in marketing is what I meant. Continuing daily the marketing that works and always searching for new ways to market. It is also very important to track your stats to see what produces and what doesn't. This is probably 85% - 90% of the whole key to being a success and making good money. All the rest is the easy stuff like photo shoots and cam shows.

To answer your actual questions....I do 6 cam shows per week for 1 1/2 hours each. One 15 minute video and one photo shoot per week to add to the members area.

My husband spends countless hours touching up photo's and editing videos even though I am doing some of the photo touch ups myself now.

As for marketing I am not quite the techie girl so I have a list of somewhat robotic marketing things that I do from a list Joe has provided me and he does all the rest.

Good Luck!

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Old 07-13-2005, 03:07 PM   #61
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a solo girl by herself is a very tough sell in this market unless she has a very unique talent, very saavy marketing, and very interesting content production.

hate to say it, but most of these sites are not even worth promoting, and the vast majority do almost nothing money wise.

if you are 28 you need to think about more the just the physical.

to answer the question i will say the median might be between 1500-2500/month in this market based on the typical quality level i see, which is mostly mediocre---because usually the shooters have zero imagination or artistic talent, and 95% of the girls are forgettable.

hardly worth showing your tits for that. you need to be different so the surfers will take notice.

if you are wifey of wifey's world, and you have a creative partner who is a gifted promoter and shooter, and a very specific talent, and are willing to work very hard, you could maybe make 50k/month...but that's after taking many years of cum in the eyes, and building a following.

for every wifey's world there are 10,000 forgettable wannabes. you are about 10 years too late.

ex: janey.com one of the first solo "girl" sites sites that made coin.

in 1995 she used to boast how many lonely panty sniffers would buy her dirty drawers.

check her traffic stats now, and you will get the idea.
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Old 07-13-2005, 03:09 PM   #62
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Depends on how popular the site is.
Depends on how smart the girl is when the contract is signed.
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