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Satisfaction · 07-12-2005, 10:53 PM

i remember reading something about someone being scammed through Western Union somehow.. are there any pitfalls to it...

basically wanting to buy a phone off a guy that will only accept west union as a payment? (US selller and im based in AUS)

does anyone know anything?

WarChild · 07-12-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Satisfaction

does anyone know anything?

The length squared of the longest side of a right angle triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the lengths of the remaining two sides.

woj · 07-12-2005, 10:56 PM

I would be careful with WU, if something goes wrong there is pretty much no way you will get your money back... and it's prefered payment option for scammers... if possible try to pay with credit card or paypal, or get a friend from the US to send the guy a check...

Chris · 07-12-2005, 10:58 PM

dont do it
if he fucks you
nothing you can do

BlackCrayon · 07-12-2005, 11:06 PM

WU is the scammers choice method of payment.

nofx · 07-12-2005, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

The length squared of the longest side of a right angle triangle is equal to the sum of the squares of the lengths of the remaining two sides.

haha that was unexpected

made me laugh

nofx · 07-12-2005, 11:11 PM

ive never had any problems with WU

but then again the people I have dealt with were respectable people

TheSenator · 07-12-2005, 11:14 PM

Give me a thousand to tell you ...account #184962165

chodadog · 07-13-2005, 12:17 AM

Just take advantage of the secret question option. I've always wanted to send a WU to someone just so i could use the secret question option. Let the person know that the answer is Teabagging. So when they go to pick up their WU...

"Now for the secret question. What is your favourite sport?"

Teabagging =\

Classic.

363R · 07-13-2005, 07:35 AM

Unless you trust the other party 100%, as in he is a friend or someone you've done biz with in the past; do not send money western union. It's a haven for scammers and money laundering, and illegal transactions. All the other person has to do is a give a fake name or fake biz and he takes off with your money, you will never see it again.

Pete-KT · 07-13-2005, 07:38 AM

Its a SCAM once you send the money there is no way to stop the payment

Muff · 07-13-2005, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chodadog

Just take advantage of the secret question option. I've always wanted to send a WU to someone just so i could use the secret question option. Let the person know that the answer is Teabagging. So when they go to pick up their WU...

"Now for the secret question. What is your favourite sport?"

Teabagging =\

Classic.

Brilliant!

pornstar2pac · 07-13-2005, 07:49 AM

WU has been in biz for some time now. they figured it out.

ask a secret question,

like, how many bullets will I need if you fuck me over? answer. 6

johndoebob · 07-13-2005, 08:10 AM

Sending money to an unknown person by WU is like burning it, never do it!

Secret question option doesn't mean shit, scammers always get their money and get away clean. Once sent you can't get the money back.

If somebody only accepts WU he's in 99.9% of all cases a scammer.

loverboy · 07-13-2005, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay_PeteKT

Its a SCAM once you send the money there is no way to stop the payment

i concur, only scammers prefer WU unless you really trust this seller

azguy · 07-13-2005, 09:09 AM

http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

Look for Western Union description

Dalai lama · 07-13-2005, 09:35 AM

Pay him & put a password on it
Let him give the goods
give him the password

Now if he doesnt deliver or give the goods, dont give the password, you get a call after a +- a week that the tranfer hasnt been picked up and you can go pick it up

Dalai lama · 07-13-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by johndoebob

Secret question option doesn't mean shit, scammers always get their money and get away clean. Once sent you can't get the money back.

You are wrong, you can get your money back.

Dalai lama · 07-13-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 363R

Unless you trust the other party 100%, as in he is a friend or someone you've done biz with in the past; do not send money western union. It's a haven for scammers and money laundering, and illegal transactions. All the other person has to do is a give a fake name or fake biz and he takes off with your money, you will never see it again.

In my country they request a ID when picking up money, I'm pretty sure that it's the same in every country.

nojob · 07-13-2005, 09:42 AM

Do not trust someone that wants to be paid by WU only.

363R · 07-13-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dalai lama

In my country they request a ID when picking up money, I'm pretty sure that it's the same in every country.

Fake Id's are easily obtained and usually Western Union takes none of the liability for a bad transaction like PayPal does.

Dalai lama · 07-13-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 363R

Fake Id's are easily obtained and usually Western Union takes none of the liability for a bad transaction like PayPal does.

You're right. Either way from all tranfers i've send i only been scammed 1 time

Sparks · 07-13-2005, 11:17 AM

It's really easy to get fucked through western union... they couldn't care less if you get fucked over so they won't do anything....

I can think of a few threads I could bump right now, but I won't

Doc911 · 07-13-2005, 11:29 AM

I've actually only accepted WU twice for work. I've never used it to pay for anything. Probably not a good idea imho

bdld · 07-13-2005, 11:59 AM

western union would bring up a red flag with me, i tend to stay away from anything other than credit card / paypal

sandman! · 07-13-2005, 12:14 PM

alot of ebay sellers wont take paypal from people outside of the usa too great of a risk to be scammed since you can just dispute the paypal transaction once you get your item and there is nothing the seller can do you will get a refund from paypal.

that said its your choice if you trust the seller to send you the item once he gets the $$$.

Sarah - GTS · 07-13-2005, 12:15 PM

We've never had any good experiences with Western Union. The people they have working at our branch are morons and never get anything right. We accepted payments for a while using WU, but no more because of the pain in the ass factor and numerous problems.

johnuglo · 07-13-2005, 12:56 PM

if you are buying a high risk item from someone only taking wu, then yeah you are going to get scammed. use your head and wu will be fine

Satisfaction · 07-15-2005, 02:47 AM

thanks for all the feedback guys

i might pass on the phone. lol

Satisfaction · 07-15-2005, 10:56 AM

heh, the phone has been taken off by ebay as well now

EroticySteve · 07-15-2005, 11:06 AM

The scam that I hear about a lot is where the offer to send more than the asking price, you send the goods pay for shipping out of the extra money and the check comes back NSF.

Do people really fall for this?

363R · 07-15-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EroticySteve

The scam that I hear about a lot is where the offer to send more than the asking price, you send the goods pay for shipping out of the extra money and the check comes back NSF.

Do people really fall for this?

A similar scam is sending a fake money order for more than the asking price to the seller. Since money orders are pretty much cash the seller will send the goods out right away and the difference left over. 5 days later when the bank finds out it's a fake money order the original seller is out the difference and the goods sold. It usually happens with high priced items such as automobiles and whatnot. Since most of the scams are based out of a country thats not governed by Us laws, it's very hard to get the person arrested or even find that person.

~Ray · 07-15-2005, 03:03 PM

I have used it to pay for content... that's about it.

~Ray

pornguy · 07-15-2005, 03:20 PM

The scam was that western union was making the sender pay, as well as the person recieving pay.

eamedia · 07-15-2005, 05:29 PM

my friend got owned for 5 grand for a street bike with western union. Fucking owned!

Satisfaction · 07-15-2005, 07:37 PM

yeh doesnt sound great.. i have had 31 negative replies lol

E Guru · 07-15-2005, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satisfaction

i remember reading something about someone being scammed through Western Union somehow.. are there any pitfalls to it...

basically wanting to buy a phone off a guy that will only accept west union as a payment? (US selller and im based in AUS)

does anyone know anything?

Western union is for 2 things - Ripping people off
Or sending your family $20.
Anything else and there is prly some shadey shit going on

Screaming · 07-15-2005, 07:45 PM

yeah i wouldnt do it but thats just me

Spunky · 07-15-2005, 08:02 PM

Yes I have..lost about 1 k ..due to my stupidity..never again!

Dravyk · 07-15-2005, 09:51 PM

Western Union sucks. If you can use anything else, do so.

While I've never been ripped off by them, they make every transaction (few as I have done) a total bitch to do. The website doesn't always work, the people on the phone are morons, and they act like they are doing you a favor and should be kissing their ass for the honor of using their shitty service.

mrthumbs · 07-15-2005, 10:03 PM

ive done a few WU's lately.. only with trusted people tho.. like many said in this thread.. no refund or chargebacks on WU's ;)

mrthumbs · 07-15-2005, 10:04 PM

Wu is the more efficient alternative for sending cash in an envelope.. thats how you should see the service.

webcrawler · 07-15-2005, 10:07 PM

you can't do anything about it if he scams you.

Satisfaction · 07-16-2005, 07:04 AM

damn i cant see anything good about this company :/

why do people use it then?

JimmyStephans · 07-16-2005, 07:16 AM

A few years ago the hot digital camera for pros was the Canon EOS 1Ds. Retail at the time about $8000

For a while several started showing on eBay with "Buy it Now" prices about half of retail.

In each case the seller would only take WU. In each case the seller had a decent rating at eBay (40+ or above). In each case the way the WU was to be sent was strange -- such as sending with a password because the seller didn't have ID, or sending in the name of a girlfriend, when the seller was clearly male, etc.

Everybody that jumped on those deals got burned.

They all lost money, and none got any sort of camera.

Satisfaction · 07-17-2005, 01:41 AM

yeh sounds about right... this mobile phone was more then half its RRP

sandman! · 07-17-2005, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyStephans

A few years ago the hot digital camera for pros was the Canon EOS 1Ds. Retail at the time about $8000

For a while several started showing on eBay with "Buy it Now" prices about half of retail.

In each case the seller would only take WU. In each case the seller had a decent rating at eBay (40+ or above). In each case the way the WU was to be sent was strange -- such as sending with a password because the seller didn't have ID, or sending in the name of a girlfriend, when the seller was clearly male, etc.

Everybody that jumped on those deals got burned.

They all lost money, and none got any sort of camera.

40+ feedback is not decent i can buy 40 feedbacks in 1 nite on a new account.

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Satisfaction WootWootCash.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 10,900	Scammed through Western Union? i remember reading something about someone being scammed through Western Union somehow.. are there any pitfalls to it... basically wanting to buy a phone off a guy that will only accept west union as a payment? (US selller and im based in AUS) does anyone know anything?

07-13-2005, 12:17 AM	#9
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Just take advantage of the secret question option. I've always wanted to send a WU to someone just so i could use the secret question option. Let the person know that the answer is Teabagging. So when they go to pick up their WU... "Now for the secret question. What is your favourite sport?" Teabagging =\ Classic. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

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363R Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: far far away, in a land unknown. Full of mutants and illegal immigrant webmasters. Posts: 217	Unless you trust the other party 100%, as in he is a friend or someone you've done biz with in the past; do not send money western union. It's a haven for scammers and money laundering, and illegal transactions. All the other person has to do is a give a fake name or fake biz and he takes off with your money, you will never see it again.

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Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Its a SCAM once you send the money there is no way to stop the payment

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johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Sending money to an unknown person by WU is like burning it, never do it! Secret question option doesn't mean shit, scammers always get their money and get away clean. Once sent you can't get the money back. If somebody only accepts WU he's in 99.9% of all cases a scammer. __________________

07-13-2005, 09:09 AM	#16
azguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,167	http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html Look for Western Union description

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bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	western union would bring up a red flag with me, i tend to stay away from anything other than credit card / paypal

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sandman! Icq: 14420613 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: chicago Posts: 15,432	alot of ebay sellers wont take paypal from people outside of the usa too great of a risk to be scammed since you can just dispute the paypal transaction once you get your item and there is nothing the seller can do you will get a refund from paypal. that said its your choice if you trust the seller to send you the item once he gets the $$$.

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Satisfaction WootWootCash.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 10,900	thanks for all the feedback guys i might pass on the phone. lol

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Satisfaction WootWootCash.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 10,900	heh, the phone has been taken off by ebay as well now

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eamedia Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: norcal Posts: 1,456	my friend got owned for 5 grand for a street bike with western union. Fucking owned! __________________

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Satisfaction WootWootCash.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 10,900	yeh doesnt sound great.. i have had 31 negative replies lol

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Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	yeah i wouldnt do it but thats just me __________________

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07-15-2005, 09:51 PM	#40
Dravyk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Yo, Philly! Posts: 1,202	Western Union sucks. If you can use anything else, do so. While I've never been ripped off by them, they make every transaction (few as I have done) a total bitch to do. The website doesn't always work, the people on the phone are morons, and they act like they are doing you a favor and should be kissing their ass for the honor of using their shitty service. __________________ All Of 'Em

07-15-2005, 10:03 PM	#41
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	ive done a few WU's lately.. only with trusted people tho.. like many said in this thread.. no refund or chargebacks on WU's ;)

07-15-2005, 10:04 PM	#42
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	Wu is the more efficient alternative for sending cash in an envelope.. thats how you should see the service.

07-15-2005, 10:07 PM	#43
webcrawler Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ICQ .:. 286608143 Posts: 2,692	you can't do anything about it if he scams you.

07-16-2005, 07:04 AM	#44
Satisfaction WootWootCash.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 10,900	damn i cant see anything good about this company :/ why do people use it then?

07-16-2005, 07:16 AM	#45
JimmyStephans Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton, Colorado. USA Posts: 558	A few years ago the hot digital camera for pros was the Canon EOS 1Ds. Retail at the time about $8000 For a while several started showing on eBay with "Buy it Now" prices about half of retail. In each case the seller would only take WU. In each case the seller had a decent rating at eBay (40+ or above). In each case the way the WU was to be sent was strange -- such as sending with a password because the seller didn't have ID, or sending in the name of a girlfriend, when the seller was clearly male, etc. Everybody that jumped on those deals got burned. They all lost money, and none got any sort of camera. __________________ http://TrueBabes.com/