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you can't make me think the way you want to by repeating your bullshit you dumbass... |
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Your previous posts in other threads illustrate full well your hatred for ALL muslims (obviously biast from your experience in Israel). What the fuck are you taking in that University anyways? You seem real dumb. |
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I agree that Criminals(terrorists) should be punished/killed. But killing innocent families in retaliation only breeds more hate(criminals). |
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The difference is that Canada (and apparently the Brits) don't live in abject terror from future attacks, nor gladly hand over our various freedoms in exchange for bragging rights over brown people body counts and an imaginary sense of protection or safety. We appear to lack the reprehensible administration which has tried to wring every last bit of political gain out of the situation as possible, or the increasingly substandard 'journalism' being churned out by the Newsertainment networks that would keep us properly fearful and easy to control. |
The real villain behind the bombing
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Some data people might find interesting, courtesy BTC news: the number of terrorist attacks yearly for the last 10 years.
http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/image...nalattacks.png Yeah, the numbers are small, but legible if you squint. :winkwink: An ironic sidenote: This graph does NOT include terrorist attacks within Iraq, although Bush claims iraq is the 'front line in the war on terror'. If those numbers were factored in, the average of roughly 4 car bombs a day would put those attack numbers up by around 2000 additional attacks, or about 7 times higher than the current high water mark on that graph. To my knowledge, it doesn't include Afghanistan either, so crank it up some more. |
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When this man speaks, shut up and listen. |
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Maybe thru time reality will hit! Meanwhile the billions spent on "protecting the homeland" (bin Laden would smile!) and "taking the front to the enemy" (nice to fight on familiar ground - saves travelling!) in Iraq is a nice diversion from real issues where there is nada aptitude.... anyone remember the economy, healthcare or much else? |
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"With the possible exception of the United States, there are more international terrorist organizations active in Canada than anywhere in the world. This situation can be attributed to Canada?s proximity to the United States which currently is the principal target of terrorist groups operating internationally; and to the fact that Canada, a country built upon immigration, represents a microcosm of the world. It is therefore not surprising that the world?s extremist elements are represented here, along with peace-loving citizens. Terrorist groups are present here whose origins lie in regional, ethnic and nationalist conflicts, including the Israeli-Palestinian one, as well as those in Egypt, Algeria, Sudan, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Northern Ireland, the Punjab, Sri Lanka, Turkey and the former Yugoslavia. By way of example, the following terrorist or front groups acting on their behalf have or had supporters in Canada: Hizballah and other Shiite Islamic terrorist organizations; Hamas; the Egyptian Al Jihad and various other Sunni Islamic extremist groups from across the Middle East and Maghreb; the Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA), the Tamil Tigers (LTTE), the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), and all the world?s major Sikh terrorist groups. Some supporters of the international Islamic Jihad cause are also present in Canada, with a few of them possibly linked to Al Qaida." "Terrorism in Canada can be divided into roughly four categories: religious extremism, with various Sunni Islamic groups being the most serious threat at present; state-sponsored terrorism; secessionist violence, which encompasses Sikh extremism, and separatist movements in Sri Lanka, Turkey, Ireland and the Middle East; and domestic extremism, including some anti-abortion, animal rights, anti-globalization and environmental groups, a small but receptive audience for militia messages emanating from the United States, and white supremacists. The bombings, kidnappings and subsequent murder of Quebec Cabinet Minister Pierre Laporte by the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) in the late 1960s and early 1970s represent the most violent period of domestic terrorism in Canada. However, during the 1980s, Canada was subject to a spillover of violence from conflicts abroad when Armenian and Sikh extremist groups carried out several terrorist operations on Canadian territory. A domestic left-wing extremist group (Direct Action) was implicated in a number of bombings in the early 1980s, but the perpetrators were arrested and sentenced to lengthy jail sentences, effectively ending the group?s existence. As well, the bombing of an Air India flight from Toronto in 1985, an act blamed on Sikh terrorists fighting for an independent homeland in India, resulted in 329 deaths. Most victims were Canadian." Here is a link to their site so you can educate yourself. People that think their country is immune to terrorism are really annoying. The ignorance associated with thinking terrorism only exists now, or because of the United States, really need to educate themselves. Every country on this planet has has terrorist acts commited on their soil. EVERY ONE. I don't agree with the way our current administration is handling things. I don't support their actions. I'm also not ignorant to the truth that terrorism has always existed, and will continue to exist, becuase there are people full of hate that want to be noticed for the evil things they do in the name of their cause. It's always been like that, it will always be like this. |
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Britain has dealt with terrorism for over 30 years now. ? March 8, 1973: Two IRA car bombs explode outside London's Old Bailey courthouse and government's agriculture department headquarters, killing one and wounding more than 150. ? Oct. 5, 1974: Two IRA bombs explode in pubs in London suburb of Guildford; five dead, more than 50 injured. ? Nov. 21, 1974: Two IRA bombs in Birmingham kill 19 and wound more than 180. ? July 20, 1982: Two IRA bombs in Hyde Park and Regent's Park in London kill 11 British soldiers and wound more than 40, mostly civilians. ? Dec. 17, 1983: IRA car bomb explodes outside Harrod's department store, killing six and wounding about 100. ? Oct. 12, 1984: IRA targets conference of ruling Conservative Party, killing five and wounding 24, but narrowly missing Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. ? Sept. 22, 1989: The IRA bombs the Royal Marines School of Music in Deal, killing 10 soldiers and wounding more than 30. ? Feb. 7, 1991: IRA fires three homemade mortar shells at No. 10 Downing Street, British prime minister's official residence in London. No injuries. ? April 10, 1992: Massive IRA truck bomb in London's financial district kills three and causes hundreds of millions of dollars of damage. ? March, 20, 1993: IRA bomb hidden in garbage can in shopping district of Warrington, northwest England, kills two boys aged 3 and 12. ? Feb. 9, 1996: IRA ends a 17-month cease-fire with a massive truck bomb in London's financial district, killing two. ? Feb. 18, 1996: An IRA bomber accidentally kills himself aboard a London double-decker bus, five injured. ? June 15, 1996: For first time, IRA targets a different English city ? Manchester in the northwest ? with a massive truck bomb, wrecking the central shopping area and wounding about 200. ? Sept. 20, 2000: IRA dissidents fire rocket-propelled grenaded at headquarters of MI5 security agency. No injuries. ? July 7, 2005: Four blasts rock the London subway system and a bus during the morning rush hour, killing at least 40 people, U.S. officials say. More than 360 people are wounded. |
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in addition to terrorist attacks in french subways... wasn't there also many casese in the last year or so of explosives being planted on railroads??
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Good facts :thumbsup |
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I'm sure any president will take the same action for the best interest of his country which is security. Terrorists will always be there as long as there's a nation harboring them.
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1995 Islamist terror bombings in France
In 1995, the GIA Islamic militant group staged a series of attacks against the French public, targeting public transportation. These attacks killed 8 and injured more than 100. On July 25, 1995, a gas bottle exploded in station Saint Michel of line B of the RER (Paris regional train network). 8 were killed and 80 wounded. On August 17, a bomb at the Arc de Triomphe wounded 17 people. On August 26, a huge bomb was found on the railroad tracks of a high-speed rail line near Lyons. On September 3, a bomb malfunctioned in a square in Paris, wounding 4. On September 7, a car bomb at a Jewish school in Lyons wounded 14. A leader of the group, Khaled Kelkal, was identified through fingerprints left on unexploded bombs. He was killed on September 29 by members of the French EPIGN gendarmerie unit when allegedly resisting arrest in Paris. Yet the attacks continued. On October 6, a gas bottle exploded in station Maison Blanche of the Paris Métro, wounding 13. On October 17, a gas bottle exploded in the Orsay station of RER Line B, wounding 29. Members of the groups have since been prosecuted for various charges. Apparently, the attacks were designed to be a broadening of the war in Algeria, a former French colony. |
Bomb discovery revives French fear of terror attacks on railways
Jon Henley in Paris Thursday March 25, 2004 The Guardian Fear that the French rail network has become a target for terrorists was raised again last night after a track worker found an explosive device half-buried on the main line from Paris to Basle in Switzerland. The interior ministry said the suspected bomb, contained in a transparent plastic box measuring 20cm by 20cm (8in by 8in), did not appear to resemble those described in threats by a group called AZF, which has said it will blow up railway tracks unless it is paid a multimillion-pound ransom. |
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I never said I supported bombing innocent people. I supported the war in Iraq generally not because it is a good response for 9/11 but mainly because a subhuman dictator has been removed and most of the Iraqi people are thankful for that. also because there is now one less enemy for my country. Unfortunately innocent Iraqis and american soldiers have died, but it cannot be otherwise in war. Eventually when all of this is over the majority of Iraqis will benefit from this. I'm taking physics and electrical engineering and it's going hard for me, so yeah, I must be dumb. |
Three pages and I counted only one straight answer to alexg's question.
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How can you understand and fight an enemy that is born and educated in your country then wants to blow you the fuck up. At least with the IRA the majority where fighting for what they saw as a rightful cause "a united Ireland" most where Irish citizens whose cause had been born and bred into them. Don't get me wrong I'm no IRA sympathiser I served with the British Army in the IRAs most hated regiment. but these people have no cause, no demands they just want to kill and maim as many people as their fucked up religion tells them its ok to do. |
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This is the reason that Bush and all of his religious right still carry on this tradition:
This speech was given in November 1095 by Pope Urban II: The noble race of Franks must come to the aid their fellow Christians in the East. The infidel Turks are advancing into the heart of Eastern Christendom; Christians are being oppressed and attacked; churches and holy places are being defiled. Jerusalem is groaning under the Saracen yoke. The Holy Sepulchre is in Moslem hands and has been turned into a mosque. Pilgrims are harassed and even prevented from access to the Holy Land. The West must march to the defense of the East. All should go, rich and poor alike. The Franks must stop their internal wars and squabbles. Let them go instead against the infidel and fight a righteous war. God himself would lead them, for they would be doing His work. There will be absolution and remission of sins for all who die in the service of Christ. Here they are poor and miserable sinners; there they will be rich and happy. Let none hesitate; they must march next summer. God wills it! Deus lo volt! (God wills it) became the battle cry of the Crusaders This is the basis for everything that has gone on since - and will until the Church figures out that they are no longer doing what they see as their higher power - or until all of them just blow each other up and we get over this stupid religious supremecy shit thats been going on for 1000 years |
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exactly, and I'm glad you brought that up. It's ok for the US to dictate how other countries should live and act? If you want to look more intelligent, and gain respect for your enemies, don't act in the same way they do... The more we act like rednecks, the more we play into their hands. They want a war. It's judgement day, my friend. Life is strange, and a kneejerk reaction to an attack is natural; it's just not rational. And by the way, learn to spell terrorism if you want to debate it. |
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most won't admit they were wrong and probably make up new excuses, such as the "head scarf" issue, or that canada sent 2 soldiers and 4 guns to afghanistan... |
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do you really see no difference? :helpme as for the spelling mistake: :321GFY |
Actually it is ok for him to do that during the civil "war" that he had within Iraq - just as it was ok for Lincoln to kill all the southeners during the US's civil war - and just as Truman decided it was ok to kill 340000 Japanese with two bombs - and so on - war is hell and since Bush thought he needed a war to make sure the repeat of the 1916 Sykes-Picot agreement between the empires of Britain and France which carved up this whole Arab region from the Ottoman empire - not only does he want the end of the Iraq regime, but the splitting up of the OPEC along with new compliant governments in Iran and Syria to shore up our supplies due to our dependence on oil - and if you do a little research you will also find that plans are underway (either peacefully or by force) for those last two countries to become compliant to our wishes.
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bush is not responsible...american foreign policy since 1950 is...any country could be attacked, but the targets will always be westerners until we make peace and leanr to all coexist on this earth regrdless of religious and ideological differences.
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The Bush and Bliar failure in the absolute scam what they call War On Terror is that with their incompetence policies in Iraq and Afghanistan they are turning even the more moderate muslims into extremists.
Consequence: Moslim extremism is growing rapidly, even US sources (CIA) are confirming this. The idiot in the white house and his corporate scamming friends are achieving the complete opposite of what they tell us they want to achieve. And don't even intend to review their ineffective strategies. Meanwhile his old friend Osama remains free and gets rewarded a new training ground for his terrorists and a nice chance to blow up about 2 US soldiers a day. Time to bring all these fuckers down. |
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do you put your own tgp link on your galleries?
to get some heavy traffic? :thumbsup
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