What do affiliates thing? would you shy away from a program because it uses paycom??? - GoFuckYourself.com

sonofsam · 07-06-2005, 08:42 PM

Just curious... my paysite is with paycom, due to the fact that i'm in canada and even though i incorporated in the US i wouldn't be able to get ccbill as they require the principle to live in the US etc.... but with paycom you can just use your canadian passport etc...

would most affiliates not promote a program because its on paycom, or does it really not matter?

thanks for the feedback

edit: i meant what do affiliates THINK in the title....

Relish XXX · 07-06-2005, 08:44 PM

I think affiliates like Paycom or CCBill. If you were using Ibill I think their would be a problem!

sonofsam · 07-06-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

I think affiliates like Paycom or CCBill. If you were using Ibill I think their would be a problem!

oh well ibill is primary processor... i'm using paycom as secondary

jk

Doctor Dre · 07-06-2005, 08:48 PM

I'd actually go with a site that use paycome over ccbill ... but that's just my :2cents

(Nothing wrong with ccbill ... I just like paycom a lot)

basschick · 07-06-2005, 08:48 PM

paycom's stats aren't as good as ccbill's, but their checks come every week - no problems with paycom for me.

Matt 26z · 07-06-2005, 08:48 PM

I don't have a problem with them. Why should anyone?

sonofsam · 07-06-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I don't have a problem with them. Why should anyone?

Great to hear

was just curious but i was under the impression most affiliates preferred ccbill programs

RogerV · 07-06-2005, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX

I think affiliates like Paycom or CCBill. If you were using Ibill I think their would be a problem!

I have to agree

BV · 07-06-2005, 08:53 PM

We offer both (CCBill & Paycom)
Both are very good.

We let each affiliate choose inside their admin which biller they want for their primary.

and some prefer one over the other, good too offer both

sonofsam · 07-06-2005, 09:02 PM

yah i wish i could offer both, but i'm in canada.. so i'm lucky enough to have paycom.... i used an incorporation company to form a company for me in delaware.. but ccbill requires the principle owner (me) to live in the states... so its a no go with them

Hornydog4cooter · 07-06-2005, 09:04 PM

paycom has been screwy lately. No sales for 5 days and boom 16 sales today go figure......

NaughtyRob · 07-06-2005, 09:44 PM

It would not bother me.

Forkbeard · 07-06-2005, 10:52 PM

Programs that use Paycom as a processer invisibly to me (maintaining their own stats and sending me their own checks) are fine. But I won't join any affiliate program that expects me to rely on the worthless PayCom affiliate stats. And I'm not happy receiving PayCom checks because they make it very hard to tell what program the checks are in relation to. They also won't correct billing addresses (they keep telling me to have the program owner do that) and I've got a couple programs where the program owner won't answer emails, won't update my billing address, and I'm going to lose the rebills soon when my one-year USPS mail forwarding order runs out.

Let me repeat it: Paycom affiliate stats are worthless and pathetic. For that reason, and that reason alone, I will no longer join a program that provides nothing but Paycom stats.

It's a huge problem. Paycom provides zero referral information and zero click counting. Without ratios and referring URLs, there's no way to guage the effectiveness of a link campaign. Waste of my traffic.

What I don't understand is why a company that can get some things so right can't be bothered to update its worthless stats reporting.

BV · 07-07-2005, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Forkbeard

Programs that use Paycom as a processer invisibly to me (maintaining their own stats and sending me their own checks) are fine. But I won't join any affiliate program that expects me to rely on the worthless PayCom affiliate stats. And I'm not happy receiving PayCom checks because they make it very hard to tell what program the checks are in relation to. They also won't correct billing addresses (they keep telling me to have the program owner do that) and I've got a couple programs where the program owner won't answer emails, won't update my billing address, and I'm going to lose the rebills soon when my one-year USPS mail forwarding order runs out.

Let me repeat it: Paycom affiliate stats are worthless and pathetic. For that reason, and that reason alone, I will no longer join a program that provides nothing but Paycom stats.

It's a huge problem. Paycom provides zero referral information and zero click counting. Without ratios and referring URLs, there's no way to guage the effectiveness of a link campaign. Waste of my traffic.

What I don't understand is why a company that can get some things so right can't be bothered to update its worthless stats reporting.

Probably not enough demand for it.
My guess is that programs that recieve most of the hard earned traffic and generate the most sales offer cascade billing and other bells and whistles which wouldn't be possible using 3rd party affliliate software.

CybermedAndy · 07-07-2005, 12:03 AM

We'll be pushing your sites regardless of what you're using as a processor.

Although in our experience ccbill tends to scrub a little harder than Paycom.

Machete_ · 07-07-2005, 12:21 AM

we use paycom as the processor, but NATS as the frontend, and our affiliates love it.
No cheating - never down.. an unlike CCbill, there isent any cracy sales fluctuations

Mako · 07-07-2005, 12:28 AM

Good post sos.

Several people have told me over ICQ in identical discussions lately that they're following ebus dk's route: NATS up front, Paycom behind the scenes. Best of both worlds.

Machete_ · 07-07-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mako

Good post sos.

Several people have told me over ICQ in identical discussions lately that they're following ebus dk's route: NATS up front, Paycom behind the scenes. Best of both worlds.

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Mako · 07-07-2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk

Thanks - now sign up for my program - se sig. hahahahah

LOL, done! It was just that easy people, all you had to do was say "see sig" and you would have landed me.

Forkbeard · 07-07-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk

we use paycom as the processor, but NATS as the frontend, and our affiliates love it.

Absolutely. NATS isn't my favorite affiliate interface, but it's serviceable.

The raw PayCom stats (and there are still many programs that offer nothing else) are crap.

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07-06-2005, 08:42 PM	#1
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	What do affiliates thing? would you shy away from a program because it uses paycom??? Just curious... my paysite is with paycom, due to the fact that i'm in canada and even though i incorporated in the US i wouldn't be able to get ccbill as they require the principle to live in the US etc.... but with paycom you can just use your canadian passport etc... would most affiliates not promote a program because its on paycom, or does it really not matter? thanks for the feedback edit: i meant what do affiliates THINK in the title.... __________________ I like turtles.

07-06-2005, 08:44 PM	#2
Relish XXX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: www.adultlabel.com Posts: 4,904	I think affiliates like Paycom or CCBill. If you were using Ibill I think their would be a problem! __________________

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sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	yah i wish i could offer both, but i'm in canada.. so i'm lucky enough to have paycom.... i used an incorporation company to form a company for me in delaware.. but ccbill requires the principle owner (me) to live in the states... so its a no go with them __________________ I like turtles.

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	We offer both (CCBill & Paycom) Both are very good. We let each affiliate choose inside their admin which biller they want for their primary. and some prefer one over the other, good too offer both

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Hornydog4cooter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,859	paycom has been screwy lately. No sales for 5 days and boom 16 sales today go figure......

07-06-2005, 10:52 PM	#13
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Programs that use Paycom as a processer invisibly to me (maintaining their own stats and sending me their own checks) are fine. But I won't join any affiliate program that expects me to rely on the worthless PayCom affiliate stats. And I'm not happy receiving PayCom checks because they make it very hard to tell what program the checks are in relation to. They also won't correct billing addresses (they keep telling me to have the program owner do that) and I've got a couple programs where the program owner won't answer emails, won't update my billing address, and I'm going to lose the rebills soon when my one-year USPS mail forwarding order runs out. Let me repeat it: Paycom affiliate stats are worthless and pathetic. For that reason, and that reason alone, I will no longer join a program that provides nothing but Paycom stats. It's a huge problem. Paycom provides zero referral information and zero click counting. Without ratios and referring URLs, there's no way to guage the effectiveness of a link campaign. Waste of my traffic. What I don't understand is why a company that can get some things so right can't be bothered to update its worthless stats reporting. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

07-07-2005, 12:03 AM	#15
CybermedAndy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,170	We'll be pushing your sites regardless of what you're using as a processor. Although in our experience ccbill tends to scrub a little harder than Paycom. __________________ Add some upsell items to your pages here!

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Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	we use paycom as the processor, but NATS as the frontend, and our affiliates love it. No cheating - never down.. an unlike CCbill, there isent any cracy sales fluctuations

07-07-2005, 12:28 AM	#17
Mako Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The OC baby! Posts: 1,986	Good post sos. Several people have told me over ICQ in identical discussions lately that they're following ebus dk's route: NATS up front, Paycom behind the scenes. Best of both worlds. __________________

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