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woj · 07-03-2005, 02:55 PM

50......,.

Temp1 · 07-03-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Maybe if you have 100 affiliates, but you can not spend all day trying to track down every site that every affilaite has up, especially when they start "laundering" their traffic (another good use of the T3Report).

Hey baddog, can you explain what you mean by 'laundering traffic'?

Frank The Tank · 07-03-2005, 03:03 PM

well im sure someone working for you could def increase the amount actually working the program .. thats a choice for all program owners to make and no im not putting myself forward its just an opinion

pradaboy · 07-03-2005, 03:09 PM

You're doing an excellent job Andrej

johndoebob · 07-03-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Maybe if you have 100 affiliates, but you can not spend all day trying to track down every site that every affilaite has up, especially when they start "laundering" their traffic (another good use of the T3Report).

Ever used NATS or Executive Stats? If you don't have time checking new affiliates / affiliates with first signups you probably should change the business

An alternative to T3 Report:

http://www.google.com/search?q=link%...en-US:official

http://www.rustybrick.com/link_analysis.php

But all of it isn't very useful if the traffic originates from TGPs or CJs with trading scripts.

baddog · 07-03-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Temp1

Hey baddog, can you explain what you mean by 'laundering traffic'?

Sure. It is a major cause of chargebacks.

Say you own www.sponsorprogram.com that is a teen site.

You have an affiliate that is promoting you via www.hissite.com Everything looks nice on his site, and he makes a lot of signups, but gets an inordinate number of chargebacks, or trials that never convert.

It could be that said affiliate also owns www.launderingsite.com and on that site they are targeting pedos by saying things like, "go to www.hissite.com, and click the link to www.sponsorprogram.com where you will find all the KP content. Once you are a member you will find what you desire on page 10."

That is just one example, I am sure you can build your own scenarios from there.

The point is that www.sponsorprogram.com does not have what is being promised to the surfer, but the owner doesn't have any way of knowing this because www.launderingsite.com is not linked to him, and there is nothing on www.hissite.com to tip them off that there might be a problem.

Another scenario might be that on www.launderingsite.com they are telling the surfer to go to www.hissite.com and sign up to www.sponsorprogram.com but be sure to cancel the trial right away, and they can get access to www.sponsorprogram.com and 10 other sites for free.

$5 submissions · 07-03-2005, 03:24 PM

I would think it totally depends on what % of that number actually send QUALITY converting traffic.

baddog · 07-03-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoebob

Ever used NATS or Executive Stats? If you don't have time checking new affiliates / affiliates with first signups you probably should change the business

An alternative to T3 Report:

http://www.google.com/search?q=link%...en-US:official

http://www.rustybrick.com/link_analysis.php

But all of it isn't very useful if the traffic originates from TGPs or CJs with trading scripts.

Okay, first off, it is apparent that you do not understand, or just have not visited T3Report.

Allow me to explain.

#1 While I like NATS a lot, it is only going to tell you where your sales are coming from. I think all program owners already know this. T3Report. will give you all of your linking relationships, not just the ones sending you traffic and/or sales.

#2. You have suggested using Google. There are a couple problems with this. The first being that Google will only give you the first 1,000 results, and they do not verify their links. T3Report. gives you all the links, and verifies then before sending you your monthly report.

Let's use Google to see how many links they show for sleazydream.com - Results 1 - 10 of about 59 linking to www.sleazydream.com - I think we both know that isn't right.

Let's see what T3Report finds: 602 unique domains, 23,566 backlinks, and 1,117 external links, and that was just what was found as of three months ago.

Now, besides showing all the backlinks, T3Report will show you all of the sites linked to them (thus the 3 - Starting URL, those linking to that URL, and those linking to them) as well as the linking relationship (if any) between level 1 and 3.

Now, take into consideration that you get an updated report every month for a year, all for just $349. Does your time have any value at all? Would you rather spend your time trying to track down all these affiliates, or would you rather use the time helping them promote your program?

Temp1 · 07-03-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sure. It is a major cause of chargebacks.

Say you own www.sponsorprogram.com that is a teen site.

You have an affiliate that is promoting you via www.hissite.com Everything looks nice on his site, and he makes a lot of signups, but gets an inordinate number of chargebacks, or trials that never convert.

It could be that said affiliate also owns www.launderingsite.com and on that site they are targeting pedos by saying things like, "go to www.hissite.com, and click the link to www.sponsorprogram.com where you will find all the KP content. Once you are a member you will find what you desire on page 10."

That is just one example, I am sure you can build your own scenarios from there.

The point is that www.sponsorprogram.com does not have what is being promised to the surfer, but the owner doesn't have any way of knowing this because www.launderingsite.com is not linked to him, and there is nothing on www.hissite.com to tip them off that there might be a problem.

Another scenario might be that on www.launderingsite.com they are telling the surfer to go to www.hissite.com and sign up to www.sponsorprogram.com but be sure to cancel the trial right away, and they can get access to www.sponsorprogram.com and 10 other sites for free.

Ah got it, thanks. Scammers...

johndoebob · 07-03-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Let's see what T3Report finds: 602 unique domains, 23,566 backlinks, and 1,117 external links, and that was just what was found as of three months ago.

Let's see what yahoo finds http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lin...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt

baddog · 07-03-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Temp1

Ah got it, thanks. Scammers...

Who else would launder?

baddog · 07-03-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoebob

Let's see what yahoo finds http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lin...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt

okay, so now how do you find where those sites get their traffic? and even if Yahoo has 41,000 results, they are only going to show you the first 1,000. T3Report verifies, and shows them all

Here is the original T3Report that was done on my AVS system when the T3Report first came out.

You never did answer my question as to whether or not your time had any value, so I am going to presume it doesn't if you think you can research 1,000 URL's and not use $349 worth or your time.

baddog · 07-03-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoebob

Let's see what yahoo finds http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=lin...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt

I would be remiss in not pointing out that as I stated, the results I gave you were from 3 months ago. The subscription to T3Report is for a year, with an updated report coming every month. The spiders keep finding new sites, and Yahoo has been around a little longer than T3Report has been spidering SleazyDream.com

johndoebob · 07-03-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

okay, so now how do you find where those sites get their traffic? and even if Yahoo has 41,000 results, they are only going to show you the first 1,000. T3Report verifies, and shows them all.

I just need to know the number of results.

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You never did answer my question as to whether or not your time had any value, so I am going to presume it doesn't if you think you can research 1,000 URL's and not use $349 worth or your time.

For those who need that kind of research it's worth the money, my research needs are a bit different.

Btw.

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Link Analysis Report
Report created on 2005-07-03 19:16:02
Tested: Backlinks, PageRank, Anchor Text, Page Titles, IP Addresses, Link Ratios and relevent pages.

Summary Stats
You have a total of 42 backlinks.
Page Tested: http://www.sexpicturespass.com
IP Address: 67.28.119.66
Your PR: 3
Your Backlinks: 42
# of Links Analyzed: 47
You have apx. 5 image links and 78 text links.
9 of those backlinks are internal.
38 of those backlinks are external.
29 of those backlinks are from your C class - specifically domain(s): (www.whitecheech.com, bbs.sexpicturespass.com, www.sexpicturespass.com)

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PageRank Statistics
The following statistics are based on the pagerank values of all your backlinks.

PR Count Percent %
0 4 8.51%
1 15 31.91%
2 26 55.32%
3 2 4.26%

Your PR MEAN: 1.5532
Your PR MIN: 0
Your PR MAX: 3
Your PR MEDIAN: 1.50
Your PR STDDEV: 0.7089
Your PR MODE: 0

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Domain Summary
Domain # of Links IP PR
www.whitecheech.com 16 67.28.119.113 [3]

www.sexpicturespass.com 9 67.28.119.66 [3]

www.naughtywitch.com 6 207.36.159.217 [3]

www.adultsem.com 5 8.15.0.24 [3]

bbs.sexpicturespass.com 4 67.28.119.66 [2]

kblogger.com 4 38.117.31.105 [3]

www.sexasseenontv.com 2 8.15.0.91 [2]

www.adultnetsurprise.com 1 66.154.9.99 [5]

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Link Anchor Text
Phrase #
IMG none 32
IMG none 15
IMG none 11
IMG none 8
IMG none 5
IMG none 4
IMG none 3
IMG none 3
IMG none 1
IMG none 1

baddog · 07-03-2005, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoebob

I just need to know the number of results.

For those who need that kind of research it's worth the money, my research needs are a bit different.

Btw.

#1. I have no idea why you think the number of results is important, that isn't going to help a program owner much.

As far as your second comment, it only shows you how inadequate the tool you are using is, when you consider that there are about 9,000 individual sites that have links to Sex Pictures Pass via login boxes.

johndoebob · 07-03-2005, 04:45 PM

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okay, so now how do you find where those sites get their traffic?

For TGPs / CJs you check the trades, for linklists and general sites you check number of backlinks, for SEOs you check the number of indexed sites, backlinks, PR related informations and search results.

johndoebob · 07-03-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

#1. I have no idea why you think the number of results is important, that isn't going to help a program owner much.

To see if a site is actually etablished.

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As far as your second comment, it only shows you how inadequate the tool you are using is, when you consider that there are about 9,000 individual sites that have links to Sex Pictures Pass via login boxes.

This is only google pagerank related, I don't care about login boxes.

baddog · 07-03-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by johndoebob

For TGPs / CJs you check the trades, for linklists and general sites you check number of backlinks, for SEOs you check the number of indexed sites, backlinks, PR related informations and search results.

Again, your time has no value. Mine does, so if I don't respond to you for a while, I am sure you will understand.

Paparazzi · 07-03-2005, 04:52 PM

nice numbers andrej

pornguy · 07-03-2005, 04:55 PM

Damn good thing I am wearing boots.

ry0t · 07-03-2005, 04:57 PM

You got something nice going there keep up the good work.

johndoebob · 07-03-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Again, your time has no value. Mine does, so if I don't respond to you for a while, I am sure you will understand.

My research actually helps me more than looking at quite abstract linking informations and doesn't really take much longer.

Yes my time has no value but your time has enough value to make 27,746 posts

tranza · 07-03-2005, 05:32 PM

Man, this turned out to be a GREAT thread!

spooky181 · 07-03-2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

60% of all active ones

Wow you have 400 active affiliates of which 60% send more than 10 sales each per day thats over 2400 joins a day assuming you get around $10 per sale thats $24,000 per day $720,000 per month.

You are the biggest sponsor there is....

Alice22 · 07-03-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

Wow you have 400 active affiliates of which 60% send more than 10 sales each per day thats over 2400 joins a day assuming you get around $10 per sale thats $24,000 per day $720,000 per month.

You are the biggest sponsor there is....

He didn't say 10 sales...

10 clicks...

spooky181 · 07-03-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alice22

He didn't say 10 sales...

10 clicks...

So hes the smallest sponsor there is...

marec · 07-03-2005, 11:52 PM

thumbs up andrej !
keep good work !

we all know you can do that !

andrej_NDC · 07-04-2005, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

So hes the smallest sponsor there is...

you would be surprised

andrej_NDC · 07-04-2005, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by marec

thumbs up andrej !
keep good work !

we all know you can do that !

thanks

andrej_NDC · 07-04-2005, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

Wow you have 400 active affiliates of which 60% send more than 10 sales each per day thats over 2400 joins a day assuming you get around $10 per sale thats $24,000 per day $720,000 per month.

You are the biggest sponsor there is....

..and a sponsor with 2400 daily sales is far from beeing the number 1

Rui · 07-04-2005, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

Wow you have 400 active affiliates of which 60% send more than 10 sales each per day thats over 2400 joins a day assuming you get around $10 per sale thats $24,000 per day $720,000 per month.

You are the biggest sponsor there is....

Stop assuming things please.

Thank you

Nydahl · 07-04-2005, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

thanks for the help, but those boards are in russian language, I dont speak russian

I know the owners of this board I used to advertised there - anyway russian guys are good working people for me - never had any single problem with russians and I am pretty far from telling the same about US - Lot of scam webmasters from US and none from Russian.

SinisterStudios · 07-04-2005, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

So hes the smallest sponsor there is...

Im sure there is smaller

pornstar2pac · 07-04-2005, 06:12 AM

great program and great sites you guys have

pornpf69 · 07-04-2005, 06:34 AM

looks liek we have some drama here...

RogerV · 07-04-2005, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

If all send traffic then yes, if none send traffic then no.

I have to agree

CumSensei · 07-04-2005, 07:00 AM

I know how much he make monthly..paypal me $1000 and I tell you ;)

Rui · 07-04-2005, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pornpf69

looks liek we have some drama here...

lol...looks like you posted in the wrong thread...

groark · 07-04-2005, 07:25 AM

Sounds quite nice

Roald · 07-04-2005, 07:42 AM

according to me 30-40% isn't a bad number, make a program announcment on GFY and see the webmasters signing up, lots will only signup to take a look or to start sending you traffic later. Few will push you hard and start making you money and few will send a few hits making the occasional signup.

You are doing pretty good I think, but it also despends on what your topaffiliates are doing ofcourse, 30-40% all sending only a few hits daily won't take you anywhere but you know that allready ;)))

bigdog · 07-04-2005, 07:53 AM

even with your 1k affilates you proably do most joins inhouse?

tranza · 07-04-2005, 08:36 AM

I'd like to ask a different question: How many BW do you burn? How many hits do you get daily to your paysite?

andrej_NDC · 07-04-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

even with your 1k affilates you proably do most joins inhouse?

not really, most of my sales are from affiliates, my gallery or other spots and some SE placements are only a nice bonus

andrej_NDC · 07-04-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CumSensei

I know how much he make monthly..paypal me $1000 and I tell you ;)

do not send money to this guy

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andrej_NDC · 07-04-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

I'd like to ask a different question: How many BW do you burn? How many hits do you get daily to your paysite?

paysites, not paysite

but Im not going to tell, sorry

andrej_NDC · 07-04-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Hook me up with a pass yo.

I just want to masturbate tbh.

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andrej_NDC · 07-04-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

according to me 30-40% isn't a bad number, make a program announcment on GFY and see the webmasters signing up, lots will only signup to take a look or to start sending you traffic later. Few will push you hard and start making you money and few will send a few hits making the occasional signup.

You are doing pretty good I think, but it also despends on what your topaffiliates are doing ofcourse, 30-40% all sending only a few hits daily won't take you anywhere but you know that allready ;)))

Well, until I can afford such a great designer, Im doing good, yeah.

Rojo-DieselAction · 07-04-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

my news are announced on penisbot, those guys are russian(connection with master-x board), if Im not mistaken

You're not mistaken... The same owners.

bigdog · 07-04-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

not really, most of my sales are from affiliates, my gallery or other spots and some SE placements are only a nice bonus

nice i guess you are doing more joins then i thought

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