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andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:13 PM

Is 1100+ affiliates a good result after 10 months?
 
program owners, do tell me

Dirty F 07-03-2005 12:14 PM

If all send traffic then yes, if none send traffic then no.

Alice22 07-03-2005 12:14 PM

Active affliates or total number of affliates?

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:21 PM

30-40% are active

Dirty F 07-03-2005 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
30-40% are active

How many send more than 10 hits a day?

baddog 07-03-2005 12:22 PM

yes .

wtfent 07-03-2005 12:25 PM

Yes thats good. Im sure you have a few major sites in that 1,100

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
How many send more than 10 hits a day?

60% of all active ones

Dark Knight 07-03-2005 12:27 PM

that looks good to me. if you have that 30-40% sending in alteast 3 signups a day you should be a happy man.

Dirty F 07-03-2005 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
60% of all active ones


Well, thats not bad then :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexmoviepost.us
that looks good to me. if you have that 30-40% sending in alteast 3 signups a day you should be a happy man.

thats not realistic, even though I wish it would be :)

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck
Well, thats not bad then :thumbsup

cool :glugglug

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
yes .

:glugglug

SirTreX 07-03-2005 12:39 PM

Depends on what your goal was when you started it. I assume you had a goal :P

xxxdesign-net 07-03-2005 12:42 PM

cut the shit.. how many signups per day..?

johndoebob 07-03-2005 12:42 PM

If you compare it to other CCBill only sponsors definately. I think only cascade billing and NATS could make you more successful.

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirTreX
Depends on what your goal was when you started it. I assume you had a goal :P

my goal is to make more each month, nothing more :)

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
If you compare it to other CCBill only sponsors definately. I think only cascade billing and NATS could make you more successful.

cascading doesnt always mean more sales, it should be 10% more, but thats only a theory(as I do have 10% declines), I tried different things and more join options doesnt always mean more sales

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
cut the shit.. how many signups per day..?

private info :)

johndoebob 07-03-2005 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
cascading doesnt always mean more sales, it should be 10% more, but thats only a theory(as I do have 10% declines), I tried different things and more join options doesnt always mean more sales

With cascading sponsors where I can see which processor gets the sale, I usually have ~10-20% more sales that'd be otherwise declined depending on the month.

Also targeting russian webmasters can help you to get more sales. FlashCash, Cyberage and a few other US based sponsors already realized that russian webmasters aren't mostly scammers but hard working webmasters.

Drake 07-03-2005 01:01 PM

I don't know but I think it's far from bad :thumbsup

sicone 07-03-2005 01:02 PM

I would judge more by the productivity of the traffic they send, rather then the total numbe of people who may or may not send traffic

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
With cascading sponsors where I can see which processor gets the sale, I usually have ~10-20% more sales that'd be otherwise declined depending on the month.

I cant get more than 10% more sales, as those are the denials. :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
Also targeting russian webmasters can help you to get more sales. FlashCash, Cyberage and a few other US based sponsors already realized that russian webmasters aren't mostly scammers but hard working webmasters.

I have none banned countries, Im open for all honest webmasters.

Dalai lama 07-03-2005 01:05 PM

Andrej that's a good amount for the first 10 months, but it's all about the affiliates who are active. 60-70% dont send anything, focus on them sending traffic :thumbsup

tungsten 07-03-2005 01:06 PM

i say those numbers arent bad

johndoebob 07-03-2005 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
I have none banned countries, Im open for all honest webmasters.

I mean advertising / announcement posting on russian boards.

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalai lama
Andrej that's a good amount for the first 10 months, but it's all about the affiliates who are active. 60-70% dont send anything, focus on them sending traffic :thumbsup

thanks. any tips? :) I heard some programs have even more inactive affiliates, thats probably common, that they sign-up for different programs even if they dont have enough traffic for all of them.

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
I mean advertising / announcement posting on russian boards.

my news are announced on penisbot, those guys are russian(connection with master-x board), if Im not mistaken

slapass 07-03-2005 01:24 PM

My understanding is most programs work the top 10% guys versus try and get the bottom 40% to do anything. Who knows what is best?

johndoebob 07-03-2005 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
my news are announced on penisbot, those guys are russian(connection with master-x board), if Im not mistaken

Can't find anything on master-x beside a pasted 2257 announcement.

http://www.master-x.com/forum/
http://www.crutop.nu/vbulletin/
http://www.luxuru.com/pbb/
http://www.umaxforum.com/

Those are the most popular russian boards these days, maybe that helps you to get more good webmasters. :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
Can't find anything on master-x beside a pasted 2257 announcement.

http://www.master-x.com/forum/
http://www.crutop.nu/vbulletin/
http://www.luxuru.com/pbb/
http://www.umaxforum.com/

Those are the most popular russian boards these days, maybe that helps you to get more good webmasters. :thumbsup

thanks for the help, but those boards are in russian language, I dont speak russian :)

baddog 07-03-2005 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
thanks. any tips? :)


I was hoping you would ask that.

T3Report can help you there.

It gives you the ability to see every link to you. You know who your active affiliates are, use the T3Report to discover how the inactive affiliates are promoting you. Then you can approach them with suggestions on how they can better promote your program.

It could be as simple as moving a banner, changing a banner, or using a better text link.

You can easily make your money back with a minimal investment and a little time. Besides, I am sure any affiliate would be happy to get some tips on how to best promote your program and make more money.

Platinumpimp 07-03-2005 01:37 PM

Nextdoorcash rocks. Keep up the good work guys! :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
I was hoping you would ask that.

T3Report can help you there.

It gives you the ability to see every link to you. You know who your active affiliates are, use the T3Report to discover how the inactive affiliates are promoting you. Then you can approach them with suggestions on how they can better promote your program.

It could be as simple as moving a banner, changing a banner, or using a better text link.

You can easily make your money back with a minimal investment and a little time. Besides, I am sure any affiliate would be happy to get some tips on how to best promote your program and make more money.

checking the site as we speak(write)...:)

baddog 07-03-2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
I mean advertising / announcement posting on russian boards.


I would say you are just inviting trouble then. While not all Russians are scammers is not to say that a high percentage of them don't come from there.

There is a reason why certain countries get banned.

Rui 07-03-2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net
cut the shit.. how many signups per day..?

This is no Danza or MetaformX crap we are talking about so try to avoid beeing an ass :winkwink:

Corleone 07-03-2005 01:43 PM

you've some great sites andrej :) and yes 1100 is great

congrats

johndoebob 07-03-2005 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
thanks for the help, but those boards are in russian language, I dont speak russian :)

http://www.online-translator.com/default.asp?lang=en
http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr

johndoebob 07-03-2005 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
I would say you are just inviting trouble then. While not all Russians are scammers is not to say that a high percentage of them don't come from there.

There is a reason why certain countries get banned.

Have you ever worked with russian webmasters? I don't think so...

Temp1 07-03-2005 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
cascading doesnt always mean more sales, it should be 10% more, but thats only a theory(as I do have 10% declines), I tried different things and more join options doesnt always mean more sales

You have 10% declines on new sales with ccbill? From my experience, it's closer to 30% with ccbill (no cascading).

baddog 07-03-2005 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
Have you ever worked with russian webmasters? I don't think so...


Don't ask questions you do not know the answer to. Yes, I have several Russian affiliates, and one of my Sys Admins is Russian. What is your point?

I have also had many Russian affiliates that did nothing but try to scam the system. My program does not ban countries, but I do ban webmasters, and sorry to say, a majority of them have been from the former Soviet bloc.

They say one bad apple spoils the barrel, and unfortunately for the honest Russian webmasters, there have been many barrels spoiled.

Why do you think so many programs will not deal with Russia except on an individual basis? You think Reagan brainwashed all of them to not like Russians or something?

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp1
You have 10% declines on new sales with ccbill? From my experience, it's closer to 30% with ccbill (no cascading).

ccbill US or ccbill EU? and you have to look closer at those denials, many of those who got declined come through few seconds after with a different card, etc

Juicy D. Links 07-03-2005 02:19 PM

I can send you 100's more aff.

I am JUicy. PR Extradoodinaire.

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
I can send you 100's more aff.

I am JUicy. PR Extradoodinaire.

I know you can. :winkwink:

johndoebob 07-03-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Don't ask questions you do not know the answer to. Yes, I have several Russian affiliates, and one of my Sys Admins is Russian. What is your point?

That you're saying "you're asking for trouble". Russian boards just allow legit business talk and some of the best business partners I have are russians.

Quote:

I have also had many Russian affiliates that did nothing but try to scam the system. My program does not ban countries, but I do ban webmasters, and sorry to say, a majority of them have been from the former Soviet bloc.
If you check each new affiliate and those who generate signups it's not that hard to weed out those who try to fuck you over.

Quote:

They say one bad apple spoils the barrel, and unfortunately for the honest Russian webmasters, there have been many barrels spoiled.

Why do you think so many programs will not deal with Russia except on an individual basis? You think Reagan brainwashed all of them to not like Russians or something?
General prejudice build up by bigger companies who couldn't screen affiliates in the earlier days of affiliate programs or didn't think it's worthwhile.

baddog 07-03-2005 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johndoebob
If you check each new affiliate and those who generate signups it's not that hard to weed out those who try to fuck you over.


Maybe if you have 100 affiliates, but you can not spend all day trying to track down every site that every affilaite has up, especially when they start "laundering" their traffic (another good use of the T3Report).

Frank The Tank 07-03-2005 02:41 PM

Looks like u need an affiliate manager to go and work the other 50-60% into an excitable fever to promote your sites

iv@n 07-03-2005 02:48 PM

Keep up the good work man! :thumbsup
:1orglaugh

andrej_NDC 07-03-2005 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basadmin
Looks like u need an affiliate manager to go and work the other 50-60% into an excitable fever to promote your sites

I dont think there is a program out there with 100% active affiliates, thats most probably impossible. :)

Temp1 07-03-2005 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
ccbill US or ccbill EU? and you have to look closer at those denials, many of those who got declined come through few seconds after with a different card, etc

CCbill US. And let me analyze those decline stats, see what percentage to get through with a different card. I can't imagine 2/3rds but interesting to see.


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