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Old 07-01-2005, 12:59 PM   #51
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:00 PM   #52
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Look at the map??? Are you for real? How does flying over Syria or Lebanon get Israel to Iran? You're the one who should be looking at maps. The only way Israel can bomb Iran is by flying over Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

As for why they would need US permission to fly over Saudi Arabia, well I'll let you read between the lines on that one.
Israel has these elite planes that can make 0-360 degreees turns

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if there is a good probability that it has wmd?
Probability ???? You are kidding right ???

The arsenal of an undeclared Nuclear power

This is from US sources !!!!! Not Muslims ... as you would wish ...

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israel having wmd = ok
extrimist muslims having them = bad
Little biased, don't you think ...

I would suppose that the Iranians think the same way, but in reverse ...
BTW, what have the Iranians done ??? Kick out the US puppet ( the Shah) , taken over a spy center ( the US Embassy ) .... Are they also responsible for 9/11 ???
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:11 PM   #54
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haha.. you think Isreal will fucking drop an atomic bomb on Iran
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do you even read?
where did I say that.

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seriously though, i believe that eventually israel will nuke iran

You really are fucking stupid.
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:19 PM   #55
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I assume you have no military background or intelligence on this matter then.

Hell, The US Navy has a bigger air force than The US Airforce.
ok cookie here are some facts:
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/isra..._inventory.htm

The US operates a fleet of more than 15,000 aircraft, including 20 stealth bombers in service (older data).

You might argue that Izrael has more cut cocks per capita compared to the USA but that's entirely different matter.
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Probability ???? You are kidding right ???

The arsenal of an undeclared Nuclear power

This is from US sources !!!!! Not Muslims ... as you would wish ...
Once again, I never denied that Israel has WMD. however, such page as you just showed is clearly inacurate and is made for higher 'news rating'. just as an example, many of the places that are shown on this map have nothing to do with any nuclear plans, for example rafael, which is a conventional weapons development organisation. also, all these numbers about how many kilograms of plutonium is produced in dimona every year and such bullshit, i highly doubt that these are facts.

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what have the Iranians done ??? Kick out the US puppet ( the Shah) , taken over a spy center ( the US Embassy ) .... Are they also responsible for 9/11 ???
repeated parades where their leaders publically and officially call for the eradication of Israel, proven funding and weapon supplying for terrorist organisations...
this will do for now.
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You really are fucking stupid.
you're the stupid one.

those who read the whole thread will understand why.
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ok cookie here are some facts:
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/isra..._inventory.htm

The US operates a fleet of more than 15,000 aircraft, including 20 stealth bombers in service (older data).

You might argue that Izrael has more cut cocks per capita compared to the USA but that's entirely different matter.
are you guys just trying to misspell the name "ISRAEL" as much as possible? because it's a pretty easy word to spell
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you're the stupid one.

those who read the whole thread will understand why.
Because you backtracked and said you didn't know the meaning of the word nuke? What the fuck could you possibly have though nuke meant? Either way, you've proved your stupidity once again.
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Because you backtracked and said you didn't know the meaning of the word nuke? What the fuck could you possibly have though nuke meant? Either way, you've proved your stupidity once again.
i did know the meaning but i didn't put much thought into it when i wrote the sentence. for the last time, i meant to say BOMB.

if you don't have an actual POINT to discuss, please fuck off.
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are you guys just trying to misspell the name "ISRAEL" as much as possible? because it's a pretty easy word to spell
Good one

Let me try:

Hisrael ....
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Good one

Let me try:

Hisrael ....
Israhell also has a hidden meaning, therefore wins the prize
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iZarel, Izrel, Izzzzzzzzzzzzzzrael
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:16 PM   #64
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i hope that Israel and Iran somehow just cancel each other out.
Then it will be like star wars?
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:26 PM   #65
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Read your BIBLES kiddies...

2500 years ago a jewish prophet predicted that in the last days Israel would be attacked by Russia (the peoples of the extreme north) and Iran (persia)

NO - Israel will not attack Iran

YES - Iran and Russian alliance will attack Israel

You can already see the politics working... THere is no need to attack Iran. They are surrounded and slowly being squeezed out of power. It is often said that Iran is the most pro-west country in the middle east. The Persian people hate the Mullahs

This means the mullahs have no choice but a sneak attack. If they do not attack they will lose power peacefully... so they will lash out in a desperate attempt to maintain control of their own country.

Russia is also in deep shit. THey are slowly losing their eastern territories to Chinese immigration. They're population is declining and they are losing influence over their former satellites. A sneak attack on Israel and a power play for control of middle east oil is the ONLY option to restore Russia to it's former imperial glory of the Soviet Union
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Read your BIBLES kiddies...

2500 years ago a jewish prophet predicted that in the last days Israel would be attacked by Russia (the peoples of the extreme north) and Iran (persia)

NO - Israel will not attack Iran

YES - Iran and Russian alliance will attack Israel

You can already see the politics working... THere is no need to attack Iran. They are surrounded and slowly being squeezed out of power. It is often said that Iran is the most pro-west country in the middle east. The Persian people hate the Mullahs

This means the mullahs have no choice but a sneak attack. If they do not attack they will lose power peacefully... so they will lash out in a desperate attempt to maintain control of their own country.

Russia is also in deep shit. THey are slowly losing their eastern territories to Chinese immigration. They're population is declining and they are losing influence over their former satellites. A sneak attack on Israel and a power play for control of middle east oil is the ONLY option to restore Russia to it's former imperial glory of the Soviet Union


You're even funnier than alexG.
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:34 PM   #68
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THe NeoCons CANT wait to attack Iran... Read PNAC... Also note that top Neocon Henry Kissenger said that going to war with Iran was a "foregone conclusion"... consider it done..
You're correct that war with Iran is inevitable

what you're not thinking is that Kissinger is expecting Iran to attack first
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Jews or no Jews, Iran needs to be neautralized before it's too late.

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Forget the bible

Why wouldn't Iran attack Israel first?

Are you jew-haters capable of forming your own opinion... Or do you just wait for marching orders from the democratic underground?
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Forget the bible Why wouldn't Iran attack Israel first?
They can attack first but then Israel will fight them with all its power and israel has there way more power and forces then the us used against Iraq.
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Here's a mural that was painted at the denver international airport back when I was in college around 1995-96. In the event of an emergency in Washington DC... DIA is capable of transforming into a temporary capital.

IS this artwork a message from the US government about what the future of IRan and Russia will be???



Naah it's all bullshit... just a weird painting
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Forget the bible

Why wouldn't Iran attack Israel first?....
Are you really that dense?

I hope you're just fucking around on these boards 'cause if you really are this stupid, I feel sorry for you.
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Are you really that dense?

I hope you're just fucking around on these boards 'cause if you really are this stupid, I feel sorry for you.
Why wouldn't Iran attack first? NOt necessarily today, or tomorrow... but 2,3, or 4 years from now?

Why - are you too dense to defend your position?
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Why wouldn't Iran attack first? NOt necessarily today, or tomorrow... but 2,3, or 4 years from now?

Why - are you too dense to defend your position?

Common...
No way Iran would attack first ... That would labelled them as an Invader instead of a Victim ....
They know that the world would rally against them ...
Just look at Irak invading Kuwait ( tough sanctionned by the US ...)...

And please, keep your " jew-haters " comment for another occasion... Till you hoped in here, there was no comment that can qualify of " jew-hater " ; just a civilized discussion to know how people felt about the possibility of Israel attacking Iran ( which was done 10 years or so ago ).

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Why wouldn't Iran attack first? NOt necessarily today, or tomorrow... but 2,3, or 4 years from now?

Why - are you too dense to defend your position?
**sigh**

First of all, it is well known that the Israelies have nukes (regardless of AlexG's denials)
Second of all, the Iranians are no match (conventionally) against Israel
Thirdly, Iran knows full well that the US would support Israel(thus, absolutely guaranteeing thier own demise)

FOURTHLY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY:

THE BIBLE IS A BUNCH OF UNSUBSTANTIATED BULLSHIT
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**sigh**
(regardless of AlexG's denials)
show me where I denied it

why make shit up dude?
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Read your BIBLES kiddies...

2500 years ago a jewish prophet predicted that in the last days Israel would be attacked by Russia (the peoples of the extreme north) and Iran (persia)

NO - Israel will not attack Iran

YES - Iran and Russian alliance will attack Israel

You can already see the politics working... THere is no need to attack Iran. They are surrounded and slowly being squeezed out of power. It is often said that Iran is the most pro-west country in the middle east. The Persian people hate the Mullahs

This means the mullahs have no choice but a sneak attack. If they do not attack they will lose power peacefully... so they will lash out in a desperate attempt to maintain control of their own country.

Russia is also in deep shit. THey are slowly losing their eastern territories to Chinese immigration. They're population is declining and they are losing influence over their former satellites. A sneak attack on Israel and a power play for control of middle east oil is the ONLY option to restore Russia to it's former imperial glory of the Soviet Union

Bible prophecies aside, I do think there is a real possibility of Russia attacking Israel in the next decade. They're already arming the Palestinians. America wouldn't be able to stop them, they realize they're no match for the alliance of Russia/China/India/Brazil/Iran.
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show me where I denied it

why make shit up dude?
Sorry my mistake. I just assumed you would deny it.

"....I meant bomb not nuke......"
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Bible prophecies aside, I do think there is a real possibility of Russia attacking Israel in the next decade. They're already arming the Palestinians. America wouldn't be able to stop them, they realize they're no match for the alliance of Russia/China/India/Brazil/Iran.
I'm shocked!!!!

How could someone of your intellect say such a thing.

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the Russians/Indians/Israelies friends?
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I do think there is a real possibility of Russia attacking Israel in the next decade.
damn, i guess that means i'm gonna die in my 30's

i better start doing drugs and running a hippy lifestyle
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Bible prophecies aside, I do think there is a real possibility of Russia attacking Israel in the next decade. They're already arming the Palestinians. America wouldn't be able to stop them, they realize they're no match for the alliance of Russia/China/India/Brazil/Iran.
You just are not very bright...are you...Richy boy?
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I'm shocked!!!!

How could someone of your intellect say such a thing.

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't the Russians/Indians/Israelies friends?
You're wrong. Russians are not friends of Israel. Putin was the first Russian PM to visit Israel, and he spent ten times more time and the grave of Yasser Arafat than he did at the Western Wall.


"They can't fight terrorism with stones"
-Vladimir Putin, after giving the Palestinians weapons and armed helicopters.

Who are the terrorists the Palestinians fought with stones, anyway?
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ok cookie here are some facts:
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/isra..._inventory.htm

The US operates a fleet of more than 15,000 aircraft, including 20 stealth bombers in service (older data).

You might argue that Izrael has more cut cocks per capita compared to the USA but that's entirely different matter.
I'm impressed with the fact that you were able to locate some data about a country that you are not even able to spell correctly.

I never said Israeal's military had more aircraft than The US'. Any idiot would know that isn't true. I was speaking PURELY about The Air Force, and had I known people were going to go on a non-related tangent and expect forensic-science accurate data I would have done some research first and avoided the use of "probably".

But since you feel this need to be right about something, and though following your train of thought, you are - just let me clarify some things.

1) Though it wasn't stated, I was purely speaking of fighter craft. The US Air Force, though it has fighters, and bombers, is now MAINLY a support structure. Again, The US Navy has more fighters than The US Air Force. (Better fighter pilots too).
2) I've seen and have taken part in US / Israeli war exercises. Their pilots are far superior - and since most Israeli pilots are Jewish and they have this 2000+ year religious "thing" going on with Muslims, full of conviction.

The main point of my initial reply was this: Israel, militarily, would be able to wipe the people hiding in the mountains and the mountains themselves off the face of the earth with relative ease.

And since it seems to matter, my name isn't cookie, I am neither Israeli nor Jewish, but I am circumsized.
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You're wrong. Russians are not friends of Israel. Putin was the first Russian PM to visit Israel, and he spent ten times more time and the grave of Yasser Arafat than he did at the Western Wall.


"They can't fight terrorism with stones"
-Vladimir Putin, after giving the Palestinians weapons and armed helicopters.

Who are the terrorists the Palestinians fought with stones, anyway?

I thought the Russians were just trying to make $$$ by selling weapons to the Palastinians.

As with India and Israel:link
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I thought the Russians were just trying to make $$$ by selling weapons to the Palastinians.

As with India and Israel:link

You should pay closer attention then. I never said India didn't have ties to Israel, and I didn't say they would be a part of a Russian attack, but they're not as close allies with Israel as they are with Russia. When the lines get drawn, Russia, China, India, Brazil and Iran will be on the same side, and that's why the US won't be able to stop an attack against Israel by Russia, which is what I said when I mentioned India. That coalition is what, 80% of the world's population and a great majority of the military power. Even if the EU doesn't side with them, which they almost certainly would.
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You should pay closer attention then. I never said India didn't have ties to Israel, and I didn't say they would be a part of a Russian attack, but they're not as close allies with Israel as they are with Russia. When the lines get drawn, Russia, China, India, Brazil and Iran will be on the same side, and that's why the US won't be able to stop an attack against Israel by Russia, which is what I said when I mentioned India. That coalition is what, 80% of the world's population and a great majority of the military power. Even if the EU doesn't side with them, which they almost certainly would.

So why do you think Russia will attack Israel then?
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So why do you think Russia will attack Israel then?
They won't and it would not even be a consideration...but Richy boy isn't very bright.
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So why do you think Russia will attack Israel then?
I don't think they will, I said it's a possibility, I don't know what they're going to do. Russia doesn't like Israel fucking around with their middle east allies like Iran, and they don't like Israel's illegal hidden nuclear weapons program. They also don't want to see America take complete control of the region.
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:30 PM   #90
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I don't think they will, I said it's a possibility, I don't know what they're going to do. Russia doesn't like Israel fucking around with their middle east allies like Iran, and they don't like Israel's illegal hidden nuclear weapons program. They also don't want to see America take complete control of the region.
Ah I see your point.
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:52 PM   #91
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You should pay closer attention then. I never said India didn't have ties to Israel, and I didn't say they would be a part of a Russian attack, but they're not as close allies with Israel as they are with Russia. When the lines get drawn, Russia, China, India, Brazil and Iran will be on the same side, and that's why the US won't be able to stop an attack against Israel by Russia, which is what I said when I mentioned India. That coalition is what, 80% of the world's population and a great majority of the military power. Even if the EU doesn't side with them, which they almost certainly would.
I'd be surprised if these countries could all agree on how to work together, never mind actually planning a joint invasion of a country. That said, I do see Russia and China working together to offset American advances in Central Asia. Of course, Iran would love to join such a partnership, as would India and possibly Pakistan, but I just don't see how these countries could all work together. The most you'll see in the years to come is some kind of joint Russian-Chinese rapid reaction force in Central Asia. There will definitely not be any invasion of Israel. The Russians and Chinese will be happy enough to just keep the Americans out of their back yard.
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Old 07-01-2005, 04:58 PM   #92
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Iran is a mountainous country with 70,000,000 muslims.


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They would just do it themselfs like they took care of Iraq Nuclear reactor a few years back.
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I'd be surprised if these countries could all agree on how to work together, never mind actually planning a joint invasion of a country. That said, I do see Russia and China working together to offset American advances in Central Asia. Of course, Iran would love to join such a partnership, as would India and possibly Pakistan, but I just don't see how these countries could all work together. The most you'll see in the years to come is some kind of joint Russian-Chinese rapid reaction force in Central Asia. There will definitely not be any invasion of Israel. The Russians and Chinese will be happy enough to just keep the Americans out of their back yard.
I don't think they'll plan any joint invasions, I think if Iran gets attacked it will be by Russian alone or Russia and China, who have been doing a lot of join military exercises.
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I don't think they'll plan any joint invasions, I think if Iran gets attacked it will be by Russian alone or Russia and China, who have been doing a lot of join military exercises.
I meant Israel, not Iran.
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Could you look at map and tell me how the fuck Russia could invade Israel ?
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I fucking hope so. Kill some dirty rag heads
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Could you look at map and tell me how the fuck Russia could invade Israel ?
Yeah, you see all the blue beside Israel? It's water, from which they could launch troops. You see all those countries surrounding Israel? Well let's just say they are not allies of Israel, and they'd be lining up to host Russian planes and troops.
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Re: Read below and shut the fuck up.

To the above stupid mother fuckers who should worry about things related to their meaningless lives.

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Let it be known that Israel has 300+ nuclear warhead and will not hesitate a second to turn this planet into a permanent wasteland if mofos like you try another hitler on us.
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Let it be known that Israel has the biggest arsenal of WMD in the Middle East, only 3rd to the United States and Russia in the world, and let it be known that if you don't like it, then you can go fuck yourselves.
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Let it be known that you can masturbate, dream, or fantasize all you want, but Israel ain't going nowhere. So get used to it and please shut the fuck up and partake in more constructive activities.

Now you can go fuck yourselves, why don't you have all an orgy?
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