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Old 06-27-2005, 01:07 AM   #1
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Thank god China's taking over the world.

I was getting bored of hearing about the MJ case, Iraq, Bush & Blair.

It's about time for a new cold war
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:08 AM   #2
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I like sechuan (szechuan?) hot&spicy food.
I hope they liberate Finland too.
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Over 2billion people & their buying up resources from EVERYWHERE.

Copper & oil in south america.....scrap metal from the u.s., manhole covers are dissapearing because crackheads find it to be the new boom, (it used to be copper plumbing fixtures under your house).

Now trying to take over american oil businesses to push up the oil prices on us

Trust me, the yellow hoard is on its way (for those of you who have read the bible)
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No new Cold Wars, but the US shouldn't be letting China grow like it is. I definitely don't agree with the foreign policy towards China. I mean, why is the US allowing China to buy US companies? It isn't like another company is buying it out, a country is. Isn't this against what the US stands for? This definitely has to be stopped or it can result in trouble down the road.
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that's good news for Yaong Ming. LoL
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what do you mean the US shouldn't allow them to buy companies?
If they want to buy a company, good for them. I am not pro-chinese. Actually I kind of dislike them, but I hope that another country, even if it's China, takes over the world and teaches fucking Bush that he doesn't own the planet.
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what do you mean the US shouldn't allow them to buy companies?
If they want to buy a company, good for them. I am not pro-chinese. Actually I kind of dislike them, but I hope that another country, even if it's China, takes over the world and teaches fucking Bush that he doesn't own the planet.
checks & balances are fine,....i like having 2 superpowers

but china's buying up stuff way faster than hitler pre-ww2

somethings going down
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what do you mean the US shouldn't allow them to buy companies?
If they want to buy a company, good for them. I am not pro-chinese. Actually I kind of dislike them, but I hope that another country, even if it's China, takes over the world and teaches fucking Bush that he doesn't own the planet.
Be careful what you wish for....
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I do not see anytime soon this world being run by a single country. I think that someone will end up capping the head idiot in the US because of the things he is doing.
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Be careful what you wish for....
yup....senators have been saying for years that china will invade the u.s.

who's going to stop them?

they pirate every product we have & flood the streets of NYC with them, chances are you've got a pair of designer jeans, glasses, hats, watch's etc. somewhere in your home made in china illegally, & thats not counting the legal things

90% of our toys are mad in china.....90 fucking percent, remember that when you go xmas shopping this year
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Cold War has never stopped, military spending is at a all time high...........
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yup....senators have been saying for years that china will invade the u.s.

who's going to stop them?

they pirate every product we have & flood the streets of NYC with them, chances are you've got a pair of designer jeans, glasses, hats, watch's etc. somewhere in your home made in china illegally, & thats not counting the legal things

90% of our toys are mad in china.....90 fucking percent, remember that when you go xmas shopping this year

China will not invade USA, there are not many resources left in the USA. They might buy up companies but there's no point invading................
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A group of friends and I very lightly looked into opening a Lamborghini factory dealership in Shanghai, but China's hilarious "regulations" regarding foreign businesses killed it immediately. We thought we were going to reinvent the wheel after doing some demographic research on China's burgeoning wealthy class...as well as their incredible upper-middle class, which by 2020 will exceed the United States in size if you can imagine that.

Come to think of it, China is like a human TGP in action....all volume, but enough raw numbers that it eventually overwhelms every other competitor.

In short, the Chinese Government decides on so many variables when you set up shop over there that you lose taste in the pursuit of it. The biggest hurdle though was the fact that they demanded 51% State ownership in the business, and majority control. This apparantly is the deal even with large corporations doing work over there, Nokia, Nike, etc. You're basically a minority partner. But it's all your money at risk....

That, and stories of former "partners" of the "State" being forced out of their 49% position killed it.
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China third in the world in total mineral reserves.

China is rich in mineral resources, and all the world's known minerals can be found here. To date, geologists have confirmed reserves of 153 different minerals, putting China third in the world in total reserves. Proven reserves of energy sources include coal, petroleum, natural gas, and oil shale; and radioactive minerals include uranium and thorium. China's coal reserves total 1,007.1 billion tons, mainly distributed in north China, with Shanxi and the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region taking the lead. Petroleum reserves are mainly in northwest and also in northeast China, north China and the continental shelves in east China. Proven reserves of ferrous metals include iron, manganese, vanadium and titanium. China's 45.9 billion tons of iron ore are mainly distributed in northeast, north and southwest China. The Anshan-Benxi Area in Liaoning, east Hebei, and Panzhihua in Sichuan are major iron producers. China has the world's largest reserves of tungsten, tin, antimony, zinc, molybdenum, lead, mercury and other nonferrous metals; its reserves of rare earth metals far exceed the total for the rest of the world.

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yup....senators have been saying for years that china will invade the u.s.
They will have to wait in line, I don't think Mexico is finished invading the US yet.
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Looks like they better invade Australia, they have more minerals than USA

There are about 185 nations in the world from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe, but the world's ores and other minerals are not spread evenly among them.

A few years ago a think-tank studied the global distribution of 15 metals with important uses. It found that:

Just 16 nations hold 87 percent of the world's reserves based on value;
Just 5 hold almost 60 percent;
And that the United States was third among the five.
The Soviet Union was first, holding all 15. But that union has been dissolved. The resources were divided among new states of untested stability and uncertain experience with free markets. Second was Australia, a continent, with 13.

The United States has 12 of the 15 metals.

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Looks like they better invade Australia, they have more minerals than USA
In all seriousness I think we might be liberated at some future point. we hold 30% of the world's Uranium reserves... in 50 years it will be like Iraq and oil is now.
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However bad Bush and co are, they're still not as bad as China. If there is a counter balance to US power i'd prefer a militarised EU.
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do you remember the reason for hitlers invasion of europe?

land to feed a growing population
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i'd prefer a militarised EU.
look we tried that already....it doesn't work, 2 world wars in a row
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do you remember the reason for hitlers invasion of europe?

land to feed a growing population
They wouldn't invade the USA, if they were to invade anything they probably start with their oriental neighbours, and then go on to Russia (although that is very unlikely).
Nobody wants a nuclear war...

They are doing pretty well buying everything up, if they need more land they'll probably just buy it from Russia, they have plenty of it for their 180 million citizens
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They wouldn't invade the USA, if they were to invade anything they probably start with their oriental neighbours, and then go on to Russia (although that is very unlikely).
Nobody wants a nuclear war...

They are doing pretty well buying everything up, if they need more land they'll probably just buy it from Russia, they have plenty of it for their 180 million citizens

If they need more land, all they need to do is take Mongolia. It actually once was part of China.
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they probably start with their oriental neighbours
an earthquake hit in the middle of the ocean....a giant tidal wave struck in southeast asia, 3 days later a sub returned to port almost destroyed..& now the U.N. is firmly placed there for "peaceful" purposes

only 70 permanent homes have been built in the area's most destroyed....saying it may take 5-10 years to fully rebuild...in the mean time, the u.n. will be there distributing aid to tent citys

its like the game RISK....you know your "temp" partner is about to take over a territory, so you stick 1 piece on a country in between

he can't take that unit without declaring war everywhere....

now pull out the tinfoil hat pics if you wan't.....but i'll start putting this tag in my posts "pr0 called it first"......& we can all search when shit goes down ; )
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I don't think the United States will let China take over any country in the area. With the United States' crusade against tyranny and opression, why would the US allow China to take a country over? The US wouldn't even have to step in with its military, all it would have to do is stop all trade with the communist nation and it would start sinking from there. I doubt any other countries would keep trading with China after the US says not to, the US is just too powerful economically to lose for countries that would think of trading with China.
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I don't think the United States will let China take over any country in the area. With the United States' crusade against tyranny and opression, why would the US allow China to take a country over? The US wouldn't even have to step in with its military, all it would have to do is stop all trade with the communist nation and it would start sinking from there. I doubt any other countries would keep trading with China after the US says not to, the US is just too powerful economically to lose for countries that would think of trading with China.
China will always be a leech...simply because its population will be 4billion 20 years from now

The same goes for india & pakistan

The simple fact is, their growing too fast for EARTH to keep up with. And modern medicine isn't helping anything.

I think we need a good dose of airborn aids, about 1.5% of the population of the world is immune to aids naturally. We need to start over & keep the history books in stock for the next generation. We're done!
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i don't think this 2 great countries would fight. they would never do things that would create wars.
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I don't think the United States will let China take over any country in the area. With the United States' crusade against tyranny and opression, why would the US allow China to take a country over? The US wouldn't even have to step in with its military, all it would have to do is stop all trade with the communist nation and it would start sinking from there. I doubt any other countries would keep trading with China after the US says not to, the US is just too powerful economically to lose for countries that would think of trading with China.
If China stopped buying US bonds right now, the US economy would be fucked. America NEEDS China, just as much as China needs America.

The US and China have eachother by the balls. They're dependent on eachother. It's not a one way street.
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I don't think the United States will let China take over any country in the area. With the United States' crusade against tyranny and opression, why would the US allow China to take a country over? The US wouldn't even have to step in with its military, all it would have to do is stop all trade with the communist nation and it would start sinking from there. I doubt any other countries would keep trading with China after the US says not to, the US is just too powerful economically to lose for countries that would think of trading with China.

China is the only thing that is keeping down inflation. Stop trading with China and you will see Walmart go out of business. You will also be paying 10X for your socks, underwear and everything else.
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In short, the Chinese Government decides on so many variables when you set up shop over there that you lose taste in the pursuit of it. The biggest hurdle though was the fact that they demanded 51% State ownership in the business, and majority control. This apparantly is the deal even with large corporations doing work over there, Nokia, Nike, etc. You're basically a minority partner. But it's all your money at risk....
Of course, it's what the government does in a "command" economy. I think I learned that in the 4th grade.

Although, China is still in the midst of initiating a decentralization policy (if that hadn't already) and to transition to a stronger market economy.
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If all Chinese piss simultaneously at the same time, there will be a great flood..lol
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China will always be a leech...simply because its population will be 4billion 20 years from now

The same goes for india & pakistan

The simple fact is, their growing too fast for EARTH to keep up with. And modern medicine isn't helping anything.

I think we need a good dose of airborn aids, about 1.5% of the population of the world is immune to aids naturally. We need to start over & keep the history books in stock for the next generation. We're done!
China is a leech? Why do you deserve to live better than the people in China? You rather have them all die then compete with them? They also bring allot of business to America.

Boeing Projects $197 Billion Market for New Airplanes in China

The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] detailed its 2003 Current Market Outlook (CMO) for the People's Republic of China today, forecasting a requirement in China for nearly 2,400 new jet airplanes worth $197 billion over the next 20 years.

China's airlines will add 1,960 new airplanes to serve domestic markets including Hong Kong and Macau. Nearly 440 new airplanes will be added by China's airlines to provide international service.

Regional jets and single-aisle airplanes will account for 87 percent of the airplanes delivered to serve the domestic market. More than 560 intermediate-size, twin-aisle airplanes will be delivered to serve both domestic and international markets.

By 2022, Chinese carriers will be flying more than 2,850 passenger and cargo airplanes, making China's fleet the largest outside of the United States. In fact, China's commercial jet fleet will quadruple in size over the next twenty years.

In 2022, single-aisle airplanes will remain the core of China's fleet, representing nearly two-thirds of the total. Ten percent of the units in the 2022 fleet will be small and intermediate-size regional jets. Another 22 percent will be intermediate-size, twin-aisle airplanes, and just four percent will be 747-size and larger.

The need for new airplanes is required to support a 7.1 percent annual increase in air travel in China from 2003 to 2022, compared to the world average of 5.1 percent. Travel growth for key traffic flows involving China include:

China to: Growth
China (domestic) 8.4%
North America 5.0%
Asia-Pacific 4.9%
Europe 5.4%

"China is one of the fastest growing markets in the world for commercial aviation," said Randy Baseler, vice president of Marketing, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "China's 20-year Gross Domestic Product (GDP) forecast is 6.2 percent -- the highest in the world, and Boeing projects that domestic air travel growth will outpace the GDP growth over the next two decades."

The Boeing forecast estimates the world fleet will more than double by 2022 to a total fleet size of 34,000 airplanes. In the same forecast period, 5,890 airplanes will be retired from active commercial service and replaced. During the next 20 years, airlines will take delivery of more than 24,000 airplanes worth $1.9 trillion in 2002 US dollars. The full forecast is available at www.boeing.com/commercial/cmo.
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Over 2billion people & their buying up resources from EVERYWHERE.

Copper & oil in south america.....scrap metal from the u.s., manhole covers are dissapearing because crackheads find it to be the new boom, (it used to be copper plumbing fixtures under your house).

Now trying to take over american oil businesses to push up the oil prices on us

Trust me, the yellow hoard is on its way (for those of you who have read the bible)
yep, and Japan was doing it a few years ago 2.
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One thing China lacks severly is precision machinery and technology, so they have to buy it from everyone else. They have tried constantly to get into industries that require tight tolerance machinery and fail miserably.

At one point they had a big plan of building jet engines and taking over the market. For a moment it looked scary because they were actually producing jet engines that looked exactly like American and European built engines at a fraction of the cost.

The problem is that they explode after a few runs into a million pieces.

Haliburton decided to outsource part of their machining work to China a few years ago.
That lasted about 2 months before they realized that the Chinese just cannot build quality parts.
Slowly China has scrapped all precision machining plans and now they are back to buying.
This alone has China at a huge disadvantage.
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World War Three will be the US vs China. While we might have the cool gagets, China will bury us in numbers. When China invades the US mainland, well, it will all be over then.
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World War Three will be the US vs China. While we might have the cool gagets, China will bury us in numbers. When China invades the US mainland, well, it will all be over then.
China does not now...and will never have...just as no other country will ever have the ability to invade the mainland. No Navy can assemble enough ships to invade when the country being invaded possesses nukes in the numbers that the US has. If any major all out war was to be fought between China and the US it will not be a land war.
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I think the idea of government owning business is a damn good one. Think about it, if a government owns a business, or even part of it, they get some of the profits. As a result, taxes stay lower, and the country doesnt have a deficit the size of fat alberts ass. Except of course in instances like the Bush family where they just up the taxes for more money on top of the amount they're already making...any assassins out there looking for work?
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World War Three will be the US vs China. While we might have the cool gagets, China will bury us in numbers. When China invades the US mainland, well, it will all be over then.
Before China will ever get into position to fight with US or at least consider it, it will require to take over most of east-asian countries, once it will put its focus on Jap, India or Russia you will know there might be a treat. w/o rulling asia it won't do much.
a fact that US doing world policing is also considered a possible treat to some other countries so they must take measures for a defence.
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