ASACP Claims 2257 Won?t Stop Child Porn - GoFuckYourself.com

DavieVegas · 06-24-2005, 03:06 PM

http://www.xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9271

interesting read............

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 03:07 PM

2257 will do nothing to prevent or stop CP.

The Truth Hurts · 06-24-2005, 03:08 PM

basic logic states 2257 won't stop child porn..

Shoehorn! · 06-24-2005, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

2257 will do nothing to prevent or stop CP.

They just associated this thing with the prevention of CP so they could market it to those who don't know any better.

Eric · 06-24-2005, 03:13 PM

We need more data to be formulated and shown to the DOJ that proves these stances. I think if that type of stuff can be put together it will help the cause.

pstation · 06-24-2005, 03:15 PM

we all know that the intent of this bill wasn't to stop cp

leia · 06-24-2005, 03:15 PM

Yep and Yep. Great read. It's more about attacking "obscenity" through logistics (technical legalities/paperwork) rather than judgement calls (free speech/supreme court).

marketsmart · 06-24-2005, 03:18 PM

It's too bad that joe public isn't informed that porn guys are more anti cp than they are. Typical Govt move to use kids to push another agenda.

RogerV · 06-24-2005, 03:19 PM

god bless you Joan great article

opflix · 06-24-2005, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn

They just associated this thing with the prevention of CP so they could market it to those who don't know any better.

do u have any idea how profound this statement is?

..

smack · 06-24-2005, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

basic logic states 2257 won't stop child porn..

basic logic usually doesn't figure in to most legislation.

Dirty Dane · 06-24-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

basic logic states 2257 won't stop child porn..

Yes, and its not exactly news.
Why should CP producers even care about 2257, when they already break 2251, which gives more years in prison?

Too bad politics is not about justice, but propaganda, votes and money.

warlock5 · 06-24-2005, 03:28 PM

Think that the DOJ was concerned that some models at MILF Hunter weren't 18 ?

OY · 06-24-2005, 03:28 PM

I could not agree more! Good to stand up like this by ASACP!

polish_aristocrat · 06-24-2005, 03:29 PM

neither will .xxx

Major (Tom) · 06-24-2005, 03:47 PM

but .xxx will! helmy is a genius!

Duke

FightThisPatent · 06-24-2005, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes

We need more data to be formulated and shown to the DOJ that proves these stances. I think if that type of stuff can be put together it will help the cause.

my quote from the article:

""We have empirical evidence to prove that the websites child porn occurs on are not adult entertainment domains," Shalton said."

Fight the CP!

baddog · 06-24-2005, 03:54 PM

Neither 2257 or .xxx will do anything to combat CP

mahoney · 06-24-2005, 03:54 PM

It won't help stop it at all. Most CP is offshore not in the USA

ImaHogg · 06-24-2005, 03:55 PM

So why wasn't this brought up during the 2257 reg discussions?

nofx · 06-24-2005, 03:58 PM

www.fuck2257.com is reg'd

lol

and its a forum , weird

Matt 26z · 06-24-2005, 03:59 PM

Was hard data such as this included in the FSC lawsuit?

baddog · 06-24-2005, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImaHogg

So why wasn't this brought up during the 2257 reg discussions?

Maybe because they didn't care?

MrChips · 06-24-2005, 04:09 PM

2257 has nothing to do with CP.

2257 is YOUR AMERICAN GOVERNMENT DOING A FACESITTING TRICK.

And you are the subjects of a FACESITTER WITH SHIT IN ****HIS**** ARSE SITTING ON YOUR FACE.

Faces up in the air you american webmasters - come on get them up in the air now so that you can be sat on and farted on by your PRESIDENT!!!

He has had a curry and needs your faces.

LOL - under the thumb you guys.

Im ashamed of you.

I thought AMERICA WAS BIGGER THAN THAT.

I dead honestly sympathise for you.

BUSHY HERE - IS YOUR FUCKING FACE READY FOR MY CURRY?

EAT IT - YOU FUCKING VOTED HIM IN.

taibo · 06-24-2005, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pstation

we all know that the intent of this bill wasn't to stop cp

what he said.

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChips

2257 has nothing to do with CP.

2257 is YOUR AMERICAN GOVERNMENT DOING A FACESITTING TRICK.

And you are the subjects of a FACESITTER WITH SHIT IN ****HIS**** ARSE SITTING ON YOUR FACE.

Faces up in the air you american webmasters - come on get them up in the air now so that you can be sat on and farted on by your PRESIDENT!!!

He has had a curry and needs your faces.

LOL - under the thumb you guys.

Im ashamed of you.

I thought AMERICA WAS BIGGER THAN THAT.

I dead honestly sympathise for you.

BUSHY HERE - IS YOUR FUCKING FACE READY FOR MY CURRY?

EAT IT - YOU FUCKING VOTED HIM IN.

one of many styles we can do...

http://www.rentatroll.com

mynetporn · 06-24-2005, 04:24 PM

2257 has as much of a chance of stopping CP and the abuse of children as the US has at winning the war on drugs.

These regulations only got passed off as a measure of protecting children. These new regulations are to place more government control on a religiously/governmentally unpopular business.

Criminals and law breakers will always disobey the laws. Putting a new regulation on someone who is currently breaking the law by displaying/producing CP is not going to change that person. They know it is illegal and they do not care about old regulations or new regulations.

The only way government works is by placing controls on things.

The government has passed these new regulation to appease certain groups of people. They are well aware that they will be challenged. They have now made this group of people happy and can move on to appease the next group.

Legitimate businesses/people have always paid the price for the businesses/people who disobey the law. How many US citizens have uninsured motorist insurance? You pay this to protect yourself from someone who chooses to break the law by driving without insurance.

Plain and simple: No Matter How Many Laws and Regulations the Government Passes the Criminals Will Continue to Break the Law.

Take what I write as you will and agree or flame as this is my opinion and at least I know I am entitled to that.

Dameian · 06-24-2005, 04:46 PM

Hahahaha not to change the subject, but that Rent A Troll idea is fucking AWESOME.

Barefootsies · 06-24-2005, 04:46 PM

2257 has about as much a chance of stopping CP, as gun laws stop gun crimes.

As for the rest of the talk, the fears of DOJ having lists of confidental members, and all that other jazz in about 100 misc threads...

the DOJ has a list gents. I have a friend (old college roomate) IN the DOJ. 2257 is just about putting some teeth into it. No more. No less. That is how they (gov't, bureaus, etc) work.

When they go after people, such as CP, illegals, and so forth.. they need a law on the books that gives them the rights, clearly defined, so they can take whatever actions, and have the right to raid, ask for, or do what they want in the cases.

jimmyf · 06-24-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes

We need more data to be formulated and shown to the DOJ that proves these stances. I think if that type of stuff can be put together it will help the cause.

really don't think it would do any good.. but it might

They are a bunch of ass clown's..

leia · 06-24-2005, 04:49 PM

Yep Barefootsies, just ask Mike Jones

Barefootsies · 06-24-2005, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leia

Yep Barefootsies, just ask Mike Jones

Who's Mike Jones?

MrChips · 06-24-2005, 04:52 PM

You guys only own half the traffic on the fucking planet.

Doesnt that ring any bells in your heads?

Fack this is frustrating.

06-24-2005, 03:06 PM	#1
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leia Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Alderaan Posts: 51	Yep and Yep. Great read. It's more about attacking "obscenity" through logistics (technical legalities/paperwork) rather than judgement calls (free speech/supreme court). __________________ I feel like I should be posting something important here.

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OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	I could not agree more! Good to stand up like this by ASACP! __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,521	basic logic states 2257 won't stop child porn..

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pstation Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 1,135	we all know that the intent of this bill wasn't to stop cp

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marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	It's too bad that joe public isn't informed that porn guys are more anti cp than they are. Typical Govt move to use kids to push another agenda.

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RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	god bless you Joan great article

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warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	Think that the DOJ was concerned that some models at MILF Hunter weren't 18 ?

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Neither 2257 or .xxx will do anything to combat CP

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mahoney Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Nv Posts: 5,318	It won't help stop it at all. Most CP is offshore not in the USA __________________ Vegassexparty.com

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ImaHogg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Born in the Land of the GODDESSES Posts: 47	So why wasn't this brought up during the 2257 reg discussions?

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Was hard data such as this included in the FSC lawsuit?

06-24-2005, 04:09 PM	#24
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	2257 has nothing to do with CP. 2257 is YOUR AMERICAN GOVERNMENT DOING A FACESITTING TRICK. And you are the subjects of a FACESITTER WITH SHIT IN **HIS** ARSE SITTING ON YOUR FACE. Faces up in the air you american webmasters - come on get them up in the air now so that you can be sat on and farted on by your PRESIDENT!!! He has had a curry and needs your faces. LOL - under the thumb you guys. Im ashamed of you. I thought AMERICA WAS BIGGER THAN THAT. I dead honestly sympathise for you. BUSHY HERE - IS YOUR FUCKING FACE READY FOR MY CURRY? EAT IT - YOU FUCKING VOTED HIM IN.

06-24-2005, 04:24 PM	#27
mynetporn Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: FL Posts: 1,154	2257 has as much of a chance of stopping CP and the abuse of children as the US has at winning the war on drugs. These regulations only got passed off as a measure of protecting children. These new regulations are to place more government control on a religiously/governmentally unpopular business. Criminals and law breakers will always disobey the laws. Putting a new regulation on someone who is currently breaking the law by displaying/producing CP is not going to change that person. They know it is illegal and they do not care about old regulations or new regulations. The only way government works is by placing controls on things. The government has passed these new regulation to appease certain groups of people. They are well aware that they will be challenged. They have now made this group of people happy and can move on to appease the next group. Legitimate businesses/people have always paid the price for the businesses/people who disobey the law. How many US citizens have uninsured motorist insurance? You pay this to protect yourself from someone who chooses to break the law by driving without insurance. Plain and simple: No Matter How Many Laws and Regulations the Government Passes the Criminals Will Continue to Break the Law. Take what I write as you will and agree or flame as this is my opinion and at least I know I am entitled to that.

06-24-2005, 04:46 PM	#28
Dameian Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Relative Obscurity Posts: 122	Hahahaha not to change the subject, but that Rent A Troll idea is fucking AWESOME.

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Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	2257 has about as much a chance of stopping CP, as gun laws stop gun crimes. As for the rest of the talk, the fears of DOJ having lists of confidental members, and all that other jazz in about 100 misc threads... the DOJ has a list gents. I have a friend (old college roomate) IN the DOJ. 2257 is just about putting some teeth into it. No more. No less. That is how they (gov't, bureaus, etc) work. When they go after people, such as CP, illegals, and so forth.. they need a law on the books that gives them the rights, clearly defined, so they can take whatever actions, and have the right to raid, ask for, or do what they want in the cases. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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leia Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Alderaan Posts: 51	Yep Barefootsies, just ask Mike Jones __________________ I feel like I should be posting something important here.

06-24-2005, 04:52 PM	#33
MrChips Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,504	You guys only own half the traffic on the fucking planet. Doesnt that ring any bells in your heads? Fack this is frustrating.