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taibo · 06-24-2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Meta Ridley

This was from an interview on the Today show with Matt Lauer this morn,

As Lauer put it, things ?got a little tense? when Tom was asked about his anti-psychiatric views:

Tom: [with patented ferocity] Do you know what Adderall is? Do you know Ritalin? Do you know now that Ritalin is a street drug? [Ed: Oh, har har. We?re on Ritalin right now.]
Matt: I understand the abuse of all these things ?
T: [interrupting] Yeah but you don?t understand the history of these drugs. And if you do, you know that it masks the problem. There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance!
M: But ?
T: No, Matt, I know these things ?
M: No ?
T: Listen ?
[This continues for a few moments and we stop listening.]
M: So, depression ? is it all gobbledy gook?
T: No, Matt, I?m not saying that. That?s an alteration of what I?m saying. These drugs are dangerous, mind-altering chemicals. There are ways of handling these problems so that we don?t end up in a Brave New World.
M: You want [other people] to do well, but you want them to do well on a road that you approve of.
T: No ?
M: [interrupting] But if anti-depressants worked for Brooke Shields, isn?t that okay?
T: I disagree with it.
M: But aren?t there examples where it works?
T: You don?t even know what Ritalin is! If you read the papers on how they came up with the drug, the dosage? You should be more responsible in knowing what it is. I am responsible. I know these things.
M: You?re saying that you know how it affected people you don?t know, but I do? You?re now telling me that what has and hasn?t worked for people I know, and I?m telling you I lived with these people and I saw an improvement.
T: So you?re advocating?
M: No, I?m not. I?m just saying that in their individual cases, it helped them? We could go in circles on this matter. But do you want more people to understand Scientology? Is that a goal of yours?
T: Of course. And I don?t talk about things I don?t understand.

Taken Here

old news.

jimmyf · 06-24-2005, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Meta Ridley

This is onle one story of many of how that fucking lame cult ruins lives.

Not sure but I don't think he said he belongs to it, He said he's read some books on it and believes some or a lot of it.

I could be wrong

ColBigBalls · 06-24-2005, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintElGrouch

So illnesses given to children at birth are the fault of the parent's mind or the child's mind?

Obviously not all illnesses are in the mind... but i agree to an extent some are. Take job stress for instance. In part a mental condition, some people break out in hives from stress. A physical reaction to a mental condition, a great argument for the mind can control the body.

Meta Ridley · 06-24-2005, 08:30 AM

BTW , here is the video of Cruise:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8343367

Dollarmansteve · 06-24-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Meta Ridley

I claimed Scientology was a stupid cult and backed it up what do you want.

Careful, dont piss off Xenu!!

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ColBigBalls

Obviously not all illnesses are in the mind... but i agree to an extent some are. Take job stress for instance. In part a mental condition, some people break out in hives from stress. A physical reaction to a mental condition, a great argument for the mind can control the body.

Exactly. I knew people would sit there and think of every little illness they can think of to retort. I said common colds and other ills, now its moved on to birth defects and alcohol fetal syndrome.

Those of course are not psychosomatic, we are not talking birth defects here.

But scientific studies back up every claim Ive made.

KMR Stitch · 06-24-2005, 08:31 AM

Idiots on GFY. I just love all the Lawyers and Doctors here

Meta Ridley · 06-24-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by taibo

old news.

From today you stupid fucking post whore

detoxed · 06-24-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Actually, that makes perfect sense. You believed in your mind before the drug that you couldn't function in public. When given a crutch (the drug) your mind now believes you can function in public and you remain calm. Your mind is much more powerful than you think.

So why arent all pills just a blank then? Why do they spend millions developing them.... if a sugar pill can do the same thing?

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

yep sure is.

so is my high blood pressure.

But if I don't take those pills, guess what I'll stroke out

yep.

How can the mind affect physical diseases?

It is well known that the mind can cause physical symptoms. For example, when we are afraid or anxious we may develop: a fast heart rate, palpitations, feeling sick, shaking (tremor), sweating, dry mouth, chest pain, headaches, a 'knot in the stomach', fast breathing. These physical symptoms are due to an 'overdrive' of nervous impulses sent from the brain to various parts of the body, and to the release of adrenaline into the bloodstream when we are anxious.

However, the exact way the mind can cause certain other symptoms is not clear. Also, how the mind can affect actual physical diseases (rashes, blood pressure, the extent of heart disease, etc) is not clear. It may have something to do with nervous impulses going to the body which we do not fully understand. There is also some evidence that the brain may be able to affect certain cells of the immune system, which is involved in various physical diseases.

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/27000225/

jwerd · 06-24-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

The chapter in Dianetics on Beocoming "Clear" explains it all.

Most in this thread seem to not understand Scientology as a whole, if they did, they would understand Tom Cruise point.

Scientology uses alternate methods, as opposed to pills and drugs.

I invite anyone to read the books, I have been reading scientology for years, lots of good info at least.

Fletch, do the alternatives have anything to do with like a diet change? More or less a lifestyle change, for that matter? Just curious, as I study and live a Macrobioitc lifestyle, and I've learned that a lot of it has to do with what we surround ourselves with, what we put into our body, etc. Would love to talk more about it

If you'd like to hit me up on email, you may do so at jacob (at) sadsoft (dot) com

Thanks!

jimmyf · 06-24-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

Idiots on GFY. I just love all the Lawyers and Doctors here

I know it's funny.

I'll stick with my Doctor thank you.

haven't had a need for a lawyers in a few years

sherie · 06-24-2005, 08:35 AM

I want to start my own Cult!

On topic, just because one (or many) peice(s) of information state something does not necessarily make it true. Arguements for both sides can be made and nobody comes out winning. All you can hope for is to be informed and make a decision based on what's right for you. Tom Cruise is losing his fucking mind and that's pretty apparent!

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lamerhooD

Fletch, do the alternatives have anything to do with like a diet change? More or less a lifestyle change, for that matter? Just curious, as I study and live a Macrobioitc lifestyle, and I've learned that a lot of it has to do with what we surround ourselves with, what we put into our body, etc. Would love to talk more about it

If you'd like to hit me up on email, you may do so at jacob (at) sadsoft (dot) com

Thanks!

To become "Clear" you have to undergoe Dianetic treatment under the hands of Scientology doctor or whatever they call themselves.

I would never get that far involved with Scientology. Becoming "clea" simply means you have gotten rid of all your engrams.

for those that do not know.

engram: A physical alteration thought to occur in living neural tissue in response to stimuli, posited as an explanation for memory.

the engram and getting rid of them is the bssis of scientology.

jimmyf · 06-24-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

yep.

How can the mind affect physical diseases?

It is well known that the mind can cause physical symptoms. For example, when we are afraid or anxious we may develop: a fast heart rate, palpitations, feeling sick, shaking (tremor), sweating, dry mouth, chest pain, headaches, a 'knot in the stomach', fast breathing. These physical symptoms are due to an 'overdrive' of nervous impulses sent from the brain to various parts of the body, and to the release of adrenaline into the bloodstream when we are anxious.

However, the exact way the mind can cause certain other symptoms is not clear. Also, how the mind can affect actual physical diseases (rashes, blood pressure, the extent of heart disease, etc) is not clear. It may have something to do with nervous impulses going to the body which we do not fully understand. There is also some evidence that the brain may be able to affect certain cells of the immune system, which is involved in various physical diseases.

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/27000225/

Thanks but I will be sticking with my 60mg Adalat's.

EroticySteve · 06-24-2005, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

You forgot "gay" right before "fucking lunatic" in the title.

He's sued people for saying that. I think he even won. Crazy.

ColBigBalls · 06-24-2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

So why arent all pills just a blank then? Why do they spend millions developing them.... if a sugar pill can do the same thing?

Hypochondriac: A person who has hypochondriasis, a disorder characterized by a preoccupation with body functions and the interpretation of normal body sensations (such as sweating) or minor abnormalities (such as minor aches and pains) as portending problems of major medical moment. Reassurance by physicians and others only serves to increase the hypochondriac's persistent

Meta Ridley · 06-24-2005, 08:41 AM

Whatch the video. Tom Cruise is DUMB, you will see by his LACK OF UNDERSTANDING MATT.

sickkittens · 06-24-2005, 08:43 AM

This is all a dream. Nothing is real.

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyf

Thanks but I will be sticking with my 60mg Adalat's.

I dont even know what those are.

I was put under psychiatry after a violent death of a cousin in front of me at 11. Have suffered palpitations, anxiety, stress, depression, and panic attacks since then. Nigtmares more often than not.

I take no pills.

I know there are sick people in the world, but not everyone is as sick as they make out to be, and not all of us Americans are running around doped on pills to keep us in line.

I am medication free, and have been my entire life.
And believe me, I could get on pills a phone call away. I chose not to.

Doctors wanted to put me on medication when i was 12. I am 29 and have never had a pill prescription written for me.

jimmyf · 06-24-2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I dont even know what those are.

I was put under psychiatry after a violent death of a cousin in front of me at 11. Have suffered palpitations, anxiety, stress, depression, and panic attacks since then. Nigtmares more often than not.

I take no pills.

I know there are sick people in the world, but not everyone is as sick as they make out to be, and not all of us Americans are running around doped on pills to keep us in line.

I am medication free, and have been my entire life.
And believe me, I could get on pills a phone call away. I chose not to.

Doctors wanted to put me on medication when i was 12. I am 29 and have never had a pill prescription written for me.

Adalat is for high blood pressure. If I don't take'm, in about 2 days mine will go 2 like 225/150 or higher

Evil Doer · 06-24-2005, 08:54 AM

wjxxx · 06-24-2005, 08:54 AM

My POV : antidepressants could help you when you have serious mental problems but psychiatrist prescribing them too easy. Sometimes therapy or changing some things in you life would work better. In the other hand people like fucktard Cruise who believe in scientology cult and give them milions of dollars every year are totally stupid

jimmyf · 06-24-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wjxxx

My POV : antidepressants could help you when you have serious mental problems but psychiatrist prescribing them too easy. Sometimes therapy or changing some things in you life would work better. In the other hand people like fucktard Cruise who believe in scientology cult and give them milions of dollars every year are totally stupid

you can add my

Evil Doer · 06-24-2005, 08:57 AM

Peaches · 06-24-2005, 08:58 AM

Many people self medicate with illegal drugs and alcohol. It doesn't mean their illness isn't real, it just means they self medicate the illness.

slapass · 06-24-2005, 08:59 AM

If you believe some illness like cancer is not in the head then it is not logical to assume lesser illnesses are all in the head.

aimeesweet · 06-24-2005, 09:00 AM

Tom Cruise is obnoxious...and an idiot to boot!

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

If you believe some illness like cancer is not in the head then it is not logical to assume lesser illnesses are all in the head.

the difference is i have attended funerals for dead family members from cancer.

i have never attended a funeral for common cold.

thts just my opinion.

jimmyf · 06-24-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

If you believe some illness like cancer is not in the head then it is not logical to assume lesser illnesses are all in the head.

hush it

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Many people self medicate with illegal drugs and alcohol. It doesn't mean their illness isn't real, it just means they self medicate the illness.

this is very true.

i admittedly self medicated myself for years.

as someone who did this, i can attes to this being absolutely true. My experience is also what gives me strength, as I am the one who lives with the anxiety and panic of past trauma.

self medicating is worst than the actual illness in most cases.

Im glad i cut all that out, and have been doing a lot better. Its been months.

Drake · 06-24-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rinaldo

if it isn't all mental then explain why placebos still work 60% or better on most tests

Next time you hear a radio add for a drug listen closely how it'll say "most patients saw releif from taking this xxxxx medication, similar effects were shown with the use of placebo"

You answered your own question. If placebos only work 60% of the time then what accounts for the other 40% of the time when it doesn't work? It's not all mental.

The common cold is real. AIDS is real. STD's are real.

You can make a case for some mental disorders but not for most conditions and illnesses.

It can have little to do with chemical imbalances and much more to do with viruses ,bacteria, and infection. And those are very real.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 06-24-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by nojob

I compare it to when you are younger and you give someone a drink that is non alcohol based ( but you tell them it is) , they then act drunk.

When I was younger I bought some blow from a guy - he said it was good. After testing it I knew it couldn't get a fly high, so I kicked his ass.

ADG Webmaster

Drake · 06-24-2005, 09:13 AM

The mind is limited against real illnesses. People dying of cancer and other horrible diseases often seek alternative healers to help cure them after usual medical methods have failed. These people believe they will be cured. However, if they have a fatal disease 99.9% of them die anyway because the mind can't change that.

eroswebmaster · 06-24-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I suffer from panic and anxiety and do not beluieve in medication for it. Started a thread on my board yesterday about anxiety actually...

pills are not the answer.

as for your opinion of me, doesnt matter. you think i made up common cold is psychosomatic?

common cold IS psychosomatic

did i say there are no ills that are curable?

no, but it is a FACT that many human illnesses are completely psychosomatic.

you can think of me what you will. my education is worth more than anyones opinion.

I suffer from anxiety as well and do not believe pills should be the end of your treatement...maybe just the beginning.

And by that. I'm referring to a time when I was going through an acute phase and needed help and help quick

However once I was "evened" out I stopped taking the meds, and started looking at what were really causing the problems that led me to anxiety and to this day I have anxiety attacks but no where near the intensity i had before and I have been off the prescribed drugs for years.

However I can't believe it's all psychosomatic. You can see MRI's catscans etc of the brain and there is a noticeable difference of people with and without mental illness.

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

I suffer from anxiety as well and do not believe pills should be the end of your treatement...maybe just the beginning.

And by that. I'm referring to a type when I was going through an acute phase and needed help and help quick

I stopped taking the meds, and started looking at what were really causing thhe problems that led me to anxiety and to this day I have anxiety attacks but no where near the intensity i had before and I have been off the prescribed drugs for years.

However I can't believe it's all psychosomatic. You can see MRI's catscans etc of the brain and there is a noticeable difference of people with and without mental illness.

have you read the Book, "Don't Panic?

it helped me.

GirlV · 06-24-2005, 09:33 AM

I saw a replay of it this morning, cruise came off as a complete know it all prick, which is what you would expect. I felt bad for Lauer getting talked down to the way he did.

RedShoe · 06-24-2005, 09:35 AM

Aren't you a huge pot head Fletch? Wouldn't that help you with the symptoms you've described?

"anxiety, stress, depression, and panic attacks since then (age 11). ...I take no pills.

...not all of us Americans are running around doped on pills to keep us in line.

I am medication free, and have been my entire life."

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Aren't you a huge pot head Fletch? Wouldn't that help you with the symptoms you've described?

"anxiety, stress, depression, and panic attacks since then (age 11). ...I take no pills.

...not all of us Americans are running around doped on pills to keep us in line.

I am medication free, and have been my entire life."

I cleaned up months ago boss.

but i still suffer from people thinking less of me because I did drink alcohol and smoke pot.

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

this is very true.

i admittedly self medicated myself for years.

as someone who did this, i can attes to this being absolutely true. My experience is also what gives me strength, as I am the one who lives with the anxiety and panic of past trauma.

self medicating is worst than the actual illness in most cases.

Im glad i cut all that out, and have been doing a lot better. Its been months.

what part did you miss Redshoe?

Fletch XXX · 06-24-2005, 09:40 AM

but i see your point, by "medication", in that post i did in fact mean "doctor prescribed"

PenisFace · 06-24-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

L Ron Hubbard is the man!!

A derranged felon, diagnosed schizophrenic and author of science fiction books wakes up one day and starts a cult on a bet and everything he says becomes gospel in just a few decades.

BOOYEAH.

SmokeyTheBear · 06-24-2005, 09:45 AM

80% of the time people dont need anti-depressants that are taking them. They are way over-prescribed. BUT thats not to say that some people dont get genuine relief from them.. This goes for ALOT of drugs..

But to be perfectly honest, I'm not a doctor and neither is tom cruise. He thinks he knows , but really he is just a brainwashed idiot who thinks he has all the answers ( or scientology does )

As with the bible it has some great life instructions, but it also has alot of useless garbage that can be interpretted very differently by different people.

PenisFace · 06-24-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

80% of the time people dont need anti-depressants that are taking them. They are way over-prescribed. BUT thats not to say that some people dont get genuine relief from them.. This goes for ALOT of drugs..

But to be perfectly honest, I'm not a doctor and neither is tom cruise. He thinks he knows , but really he is just a brainwashed idiot who thinks he has all the answers ( or scientology does )

As with the bible it has some great life instructions, but it also has alot of useless garbage that can be interpretted very differently by different people.

I want to have your babies

wedouglas · 06-24-2005, 09:47 AM

im losing what respect i had for tom cruise...

SmokeyTheBear · 06-24-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

However I can't believe it's all psychosomatic. You can see MRI's catscans etc of the brain and there is a noticeable difference of people with and without mental illness.

I think there is alot broader of a "range" of brain activity than doctors think..

Like i think 2 "normal" people can have markedly different brain activity.

I also think that the "anxiety" influx in society today is a direct result of things we are making/doing not a sudden change in brain patterns or brain chemicals, so to try to chemically balance the effects of things we are creating prob isn't the smartest idea.

I had my own problems quite recently with "anxiety attacks" something i have never had , and found most irritating and sudden. I could not figure or the life o me what these attacks were coming from. Every doctor i spoke to wanted to put me on some sort of brain chemical balancing drugs.. The silly thing was is in the back of my mind i correlated the problems i was having with the carpal tunnel symptoms i was also having, and it turned out IT WAS. The whole problem was working on the computer at a strange angle. New chair new keyboard mouse and every symptom VANISHED like no magic you have ever seen.. I can't tell you how amazed i was that such a simple problem could have turned into such strange symptoms. While i'm sure this isnt everyone's solution , i think most people would be suprised at what's really causing them problems..

eroswebmaster · 06-24-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

have you read the Book, "Don't Panic?

it helped me.

No but I will check it out.

What caused me to seep into this issue with panic was going through a few very traumatic times in my life and allowing that to alter how I accepted challenges...and by that I started to take the road more often travelled.

I started looking for security in love, family, work etc. When in reality there is nothing secure in this world.

I had to break free from that and quit taking the safe way out and face fears.

I still deal with issues that trigger anxiety, I don't go out of my way to confront them because it's just not feasible but I don't go out of myway to avoid them. I remember a time sitting on a hospital gurney after about the umpteenth time in just a few weeks being sedated saying to myself. "I have to stop dying, and start living."

And now that's what I do.

RedShoe · 06-24-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

what part did you miss Redshoe?

Well, like most people on GFY I only read half of what I want, and make judgements on other people. Personally, I don't care if you are a pot head or not. You seemed a tad more cooler when you were though. All this scientology talk is a bit too much for me.

I always considered you one of the elite free thinkers and now it SEEMS like you have been drawn into a way of thinking that follows a very contraversial religion.

I've been to the scientology website. I read through it's various articles. I know only a little bit about it. But I know enough to know that it's conformist thinking.

I have not investigated or read this site beyond it's first two statements.
http://www.skeptictank.org/cos-rol.htm?FACTNet

Again. I AM JUDGING YOU and really don't know you. I just assumed you were a free thinker. Perhaps you still are. I thought one day we would hang out and have a smoke or a drink.

Atticus · 06-24-2005, 10:03 AM

I think your taking 2 + 2 and ending up with 5.

Yes, depression or anxiety prone people are more prone to getting a cold, but thats because those conditions raise blood pressure, increase your heart rate, and weaken your immune system. Thus making you more at risk of catching the common cold. It doesnt mean that the common cold isnt real. Thats ludicrous.

But thats not what Tom Cruise was saying. He is just advocating the use of positive thinking over prescription drug use. Basically dont rely on the cure, but take preventative measures. If you rely on drugs, you will never get better, you're just masking the problems.

And on that note, im not sure why people give him and Scientologists such a hard time. Thats what they believe, who cares, let them. Scientologists are no more of a cult then any other organized religion. Just because they are a newer crutch, doesnt make them less credible then the older more established crutches.

eroswebmaster · 06-24-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

I think your taking 2 + 2 and ending up with 5.

Yes, depression or anxiety prone people are more prone to getting a cold, but thats because those conditions raise blood pressure, increase your heart rate, and weaken your immune system. Thus making you more at risk of catching the common cold. It doesnt mean that the common cold isnt real. Thats ludicrous.

But thats not what Tom Cruise was saying. He is just advocating the use of positive thinking over prescription drug use. Basically dont rely on the cure, but take preventative measures. If you rely on drugs, you will never get better, you're just masking the problems.

And on that note, im not sure why people give him and Scientologists such a hard time. Thats what they believe, who cares, let them. Scientologists are no more of a cult then any other organized religion. Just because they are a newer crutch, doesnt make them less credible then the older more established crutches.

He also said there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance.

Doctor Tom's Medical degree from the Church of Scientology allows him to know such things.

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	The mind is limited against real illnesses. People dying of cancer and other horrible diseases often seek alternative healers to help cure them after usual medical methods have failed. These people believe they will be cured. However, if they have a fatal disease 99.9% of them die anyway because the mind can't change that.

06-24-2005, 09:35 AM	#88
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	Aren't you a huge pot head Fletch? Wouldn't that help you with the symptoms you've described? "anxiety, stress, depression, and panic attacks since then (age 11). ...I take no pills. ...not all of us Americans are running around doped on pills to keep us in line. I am medication free, and have been my entire life." __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

06-24-2005, 09:40 AM	#91
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	but i see your point, by "medication", in that post i did in fact mean "doctor prescribed" __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

06-24-2005, 09:45 AM	#93
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	80% of the time people dont need anti-depressants that are taking them. They are way over-prescribed. BUT thats not to say that some people dont get genuine relief from them.. This goes for ALOT of drugs.. But to be perfectly honest, I'm not a doctor and neither is tom cruise. He thinks he knows , but really he is just a brainwashed idiot who thinks he has all the answers ( or scientology does ) As with the bible it has some great life instructions, but it also has alot of useless garbage that can be interpretted very differently by different people. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

06-24-2005, 09:47 AM	#95
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	im losing what respect i had for tom cruise...

06-24-2005, 10:03 AM	#99
Atticus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,051	I think your taking 2 + 2 and ending up with 5. Yes, depression or anxiety prone people are more prone to getting a cold, but thats because those conditions raise blood pressure, increase your heart rate, and weaken your immune system. Thus making you more at risk of catching the common cold. It doesnt mean that the common cold isnt real. Thats ludicrous. But thats not what Tom Cruise was saying. He is just advocating the use of positive thinking over prescription drug use. Basically dont rely on the cure, but take preventative measures. If you rely on drugs, you will never get better, you're just masking the problems. And on that note, im not sure why people give him and Scientologists such a hard time. Thats what they believe, who cares, let them. Scientologists are no more of a cult then any other organized religion. Just because they are a newer crutch, doesnt make them less credible then the older more established crutches.