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Old 06-23-2005, 07:31 PM   #1
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STOP Your FUCKING crying about 2257

Ok I have had enough of all the negative threads about 2257. Something makes me think that without exception all you babies crying about only FSC members being covered are probably......

A. Surfers who wanna be webmasters
B. Surfers who had a long day at McDonalds

Pick one.

Jeesh instead of crying why don't you GET TO WORK RIGHT NOW...make the $100 and just join? Why spend hours and hours fighting and bitching about something that you are POWERLESS to change? If you do not have the means to make $100 by saturday then round up some shit and go to the pawn shop. you would do that if you had no money for beer. this is more important.

This shit is BRINGING the industry together like nothing ever has before, yet you surfers continue to cry like little babies. Hell I have even put my battle with Gary K on hold because of this, the guy even gave out Kudos to me today and we despise each other. But this is important enough for us to drop the hate and work together to insure our future SURVIVAL.

Take a look at this page http://chokertraffic.com/public/fsc.php
THESE are the guys that are putting the money up for this battle. If you gave to FSC take 5 minutes and put yourself on that page. Show others that you are not a cry baby surfer.

And for you surfers saying this list of sites FSC has will be released to the DOJ then you are nothing more than idiots. That's not the way it works. Your being in traffic court a few times gives you no idea how the civil court system works.

My rant is done. a BIG Fuck off and die to all you crybabies. People show their true colors during a crisis. Some cry, some take action. What are you doing??????????????????
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:33 PM   #2
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Hitting you up on ICQ about an issue.
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:34 PM   #3
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is it really just $100 to join? i thought it was $300.
btw Ive been away and didnt read any of these threads, so im not complaining about fsc. thank God for them.
But I thought the fee was $300
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:36 PM   #4
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choker, while i agree with your sentiment, the fact that they seem to be operating on some paper-pushing level down there in socal leaves too much margin of error. it just seems theres a huge chance that people who apply today forward are not going to get on the 'magic list' due to the FSC not having the manpower to process the apps.
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:39 PM   #5
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I'm sick of it too. Going to get off of here for a while. :/
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:40 PM   #6
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Good post Choker, we are doing something in Tampa in mid July, I will hit you up on ICQ about it in a few days.
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:42 PM   #7
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I don't have a problem making a donation to help fund the cause, but I do not want to be on "the list" that everyone seems so frantic to get on.

I'm compliant and if I have issues that is what my attorney is for. I don't need to be on a list to protect myself.
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:43 PM   #8
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choker can you hit me on icq when you have a sec
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:44 PM   #9
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And for you surfers saying this list of sites FSC has will be released to the DOJ then you are nothing more than idiots. That's not the way it works. Your being in traffic court a few times gives you no idea how the civil court system works.
Truth is it will be a hit list for DOJ. Say what you will, some of us can afford the fight and some can't. I am not sure that FSC has what it takes to make the fight??? Not a popular statement. I love the efforts of FSC and those involved, make no mistake about it. I admire your efforts stepping up to the plate with serious dollars.

Times are changing in the country on more than this issue and it looks like we're fucked. This isn't the sky is falling post. I understand they have free dental in jail.
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:47 PM   #10
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Truth is it will be a hit list for DOJ. Say what you will, some of us can afford the fight and some can't. I am not sure that FSC has what it takes to make the fight??? Not a popular statement. I love the efforts of FSC and those involved, make no mistake about it. I admire your efforts stepping up to the plate with serious dollars.

Times are changing in the country on more than this issue and it looks like we're fucked. This isn't the sky is falling post. I understand they have free dental in jail.
the dentist part is so so true. It is so so much more than porn. All liberties are being assulted by both sides. Nuts.
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:48 PM   #11
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choker, while i agree with your sentiment, the fact that they seem to be operating on some paper-pushing level down there in socal leaves too much margin of error. it just seems theres a huge chance that people who apply today forward are not going to get on the 'magic list' due to the FSC not having the manpower to process the apps.
I just got off the phone with Tom Hymes who is FSC's Communications Director.

He's sitting in the airpor in Denver waiting for his flight back right now and told me that as long as the application has been faxed with membership dues or your call goes into the call center BEFORE Saturday at 2pm and YOU have a RECORD of such communication REGARDLESS you will make it on time.



Good luck!



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Old 06-23-2005, 07:48 PM   #12
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Ok I have had enough of all the negative threads about 2257. Something makes me think that without exception all you babies crying about only FSC members being covered are probably......

A. Surfers who wanna be webmasters
B. Surfers who had a long day at McDonalds

Pick one.

Jeesh instead of crying why don't you GET TO WORK RIGHT NOW...make the $100 and just join? Why spend hours and hours fighting and bitching about something that you are POWERLESS to change? If you do not have the means to make $100 by saturday then round up some shit and go to the pawn shop. you would do that if you had no money for beer. this is more important.

This shit is BRINGING the industry together like nothing ever has before, yet you surfers continue to cry like little babies. Hell I have even put my battle with Gary K on hold because of this, the guy even gave out Kudos to me today and we despise each other. But this is important enough for us to drop the hate and work together to insure our future SURVIVAL.

Take a look at this page http://chokertraffic.com/public/fsc.php
THESE are the guys that are putting the money up for this battle. If you gave to FSC take 5 minutes and put yourself on that page. Show others that you are not a cry baby surfer.

And for you surfers saying this list of sites FSC has will be released to the DOJ then you are nothing more than idiots. That's not the way it works. Your being in traffic court a few times gives you no idea how the civil court system works.

My rant is done. a BIG Fuck off and die to all you crybabies. People show their true colors during a crisis. Some cry, some take action. What are you doing??????????????????

I haven't had much to do with you choker.. but this post makes me want your man-babies.
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:49 PM   #13
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I note that sleazydream.com does NOT have a 2257 staement. I note that sleazydream.com has hardcore links (pics). ahmmmmmm Sleazy isn't worried about it I guess?
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:52 PM   #14
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Do they serve up Burgers in jail. Sleazy travels to Internext, FL! Get's arrested at the airport! Free Burgers!!!!
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Old 06-23-2005, 07:54 PM   #15
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the dentist part is so so true. It is so so much more than porn. All liberties are being assulted by both sides. Nuts.

I think it may be time for the people to speak!!!
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Do they serve up Burgers in jail. Sleazy travels to Internext, FL! Get's arrested at the airport! Free Burgers!!!!
Sleazy would be able to use his metal business cards as ninja stars to fend them off and then live in the airport like Tom Hanks until the canadian government takes him back.
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Truth is it will be a hit list for DOJ. Say what you will, some of us can afford the fight and some can't. I am not sure that FSC has what it takes to make the fight??? Not a popular statement. I love the efforts of FSC and those involved, make no mistake about it. I admire your efforts stepping up to the plate with serious dollars.

Times are changing in the country on more than this issue and it looks like we're fucked. This isn't the sky is falling post. I understand they have free dental in jail.
Dude, the DOJ will not get that list. Why do you think the court is assigning a third party that they agree on? If the DOJ got that list and decided to penalize those people that would be BIG grounds for dismal.
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Thanks for paying for my membership by me buying your traffic. That worked out great
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Old 06-23-2005, 08:06 PM   #19
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I have also decided to continue the sale where epassporte payments get a 20% bonus and I add 5% to a fund for FSC donations http://chokertraffic.com/public/donors.php
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Dude, the DOJ will not get that list. Why do you think the court is assigning a third party that they agree on? If the DOJ got that list and decided to penalize those people that would be BIG grounds for dismal.

You can't be that naive. Of course they will get the list. By hook or by crook. Right to face your accuser and all....

For that matter, they're looking at this board, so we've been ID'd anyway.

You're a player, so you're known as well as many others anyway. This is all fucked up.

For as many posts as I've made, I'm ID'd too. So it makes sense to jump on FSC anyway. Do NOT mistake this for slam on FSC, it isn't. Some in our industry I think are aginst them.
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Hey Choker, I have a question for you. Seems others are asking the same question also. I have a S-corp for my business. I was wondering if I donate how much do they expect me to pay? I mean is it $100, $300? $300 per site/domain or what? If I go buy that income chart, that is alot less then paying $300 per site/domain. If you could help me out with which way to go I would really appreciate it.
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I have also decided to continue the sale where epassporte payments get a 20% bonus and I add 5% to a fund for FSC donations http://chokertraffic.com/public/donors.php
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I note that sleazydream.com does NOT have a 2257 staement. I note that sleazydream.com has hardcore links (pics). ahmmmmmm Sleazy isn't worried about it I guess?
Sleazy is in Canada.
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Choker please add my new program to your list

PornoPushers.com I havn't launched it yet, not till next week when all the 2257 shit calms down a tad. I donated

thanks

everyone should help out..
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Hey Choker, I have a question for you. Seems others are asking the same question also. I have a S-corp for my business. I was wondering if I donate how much do they expect me to pay? I mean is it $100, $300? $300 per site/domain or what? If I go buy that income chart, that is alot less then paying $300 per site/domain. If you could help me out with which way to go I would really appreciate it.
Thanks
the $300 per site thing is old. They have to go thru their board to get things changed so sometimes it is slow. Michelle said you can use either the $300 per website or use the table here http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/c...es=Corpora te

You can do either one. Send as much as you can. After this rush is over she said they will sit down and figure out a more accurate way to determine memberships for webmasters
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PornoPushers.com I havn't launched it yet, not till next week when all the 2257 shit calms down a tad. I donated

thanks

everyone should help out..
you already have a ctts account? If so just click on the 2257 defense fund link, then fill out your profile, this info is what will apear on that page, thanks
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You can't be that naive. Of course they will get the list. By hook or by crook. Right to face your accuser and all....

For that matter, they're looking at this board, so we've been ID'd anyway.

You're a player, so you're known as well as many others anyway. This is all fucked up.

For as many posts as I've made, I'm ID'd too. So it makes sense to jump on FSC anyway. Do NOT mistake this for slam on FSC, it isn't. Some in our industry I think are aginst them.
Dude, something sealed by the court can only be unsealed by the court. Imagine the DOJ asking for this list to be unsealed after the judge ordered it sealed. The reason for all this is so the DOJ cannot do what you are saying they will. I doubt this judge would unseal this list so the DOJ can take revenge on the sites that supported this injunction. That would be a legal minefield. If this still does not make sense to you then I give up on you. LOL
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Does anybody else think there needs to be one thread with all the salient points that everyone can link to for the next 3 days as people ask the same stupid questions over and over?
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Dude, something sealed by the court can only be unsealed by the court. Imagine the DOJ asking for this list to be unsealed after the judge ordered it sealed. The reason for all this is so the DOJ cannot do what you are saying they will. I doubt this judge would unseal this list so the DOJ can take revenge on the sites that supported this injunction. That would be a legal minefield. If this still does not make sense to you then I give up on you. LOL
if you dont think that list can be accessed then your the type to think Kennedy was killed by one bullet.
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Like it matters if they even got the list

I have no issues letting them know
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Sleazy is in Canada.
US laws apply in Canada, don't they??? Sad, but....
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Dude, something sealed by the court can only be unsealed by the court. Imagine the DOJ asking for this list to be unsealed after the judge ordered it sealed. The reason for all this is so the DOJ cannot do what you are saying they will. I doubt this judge would unseal this list so the DOJ can take revenge on the sites that supported this injunction. That would be a legal minefield. If this still does not make sense to you then I give up on you. LOL

You've stated in a public forum your postion. So if you make the the black list, that's not fair game???? The DOJ is out of control. Hard to find anyone that would not agree. When you get your visit from the Sheriff, you can say you gave up on me.

I'm not an attorney, so all this is a lay opinon. I think there is a very good chance that the court could unseal the records. An injucntions begs a hearing. Someone will have to testify. Guess, they'll all be John Doe's. I find nothing funny about it.
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