how did i profit from this?

when did i ask for money? are you fucking stupid?

i never asked for money

It dont matter your going down buddy! :321GFY

No, you didn't miss anything.

i pointed out a flaw so you could fix it, nothing more, because your product was out in the open, only for your team can make it more secure.

i never asked for a penny. please prove that i did.

and yes i did visit a url on mfm server to check if that url was visible so i could tell him to chmod the .pl file so no one could look at his files.

you guys arent that smart.

maybe if you knew anything about anything you would get things done.

dont you have $5 domains to sell?

It's possible that someone might suggest that the same could be said of the other situation....NATS security flaws being touted by the owner of competing software. I'm not suggesting that though.

:winkwink:

maybe I am stupid but sure as hell not as fucking stupid as you apparently.

YOU used this to make business for yourself, even Stevie Wonder can see that.

YOU pointed out how busy you will be now with all the calls and returned phone calls and icq's you need to return.

YOU posted the hole on this board allowing entry to people who had no knowledge of it before.

YOU could have acheived the same effect by posting a screenshot but blanking out peoples personal information.

Ok, you found a hole in the server security, why did you feel the need to post the hole?
You did it for personal gain, clean and simple.

see above when when I mentioned that most of the people on this board are too fucking stupid to see the differences in both incidents.

Mabe if you had $5.00 to pay your hosting bill you might be somewhere.

No need to get testy. There are differences, but there are also similarities. I'm sure you can see that. And everyone here knows that NATS didn't start legal action against anyone over their incident. How do you think this reflects on ES in most people's eyes?

you guys claimed i contacted you i asked you for money or i will expose you. i made the holes clear, so you could fix them, so your product could be fixed. no one likes a product that has bugs or has visible data. i was only trying to help you.

i never contacted anyone asking for money, i didnt expect people to contact me. people have contacted me asking for work yes, but i have turned them down. because i feel that i would rather continue working what i am doing currently, because i would have to stop that. and taking on clients would mean dedicating myself full time and i certainly dont want to do that, that is why i moved into adult, to get away from the 24/7 on call work in the it industry. i enjoy what i was doing before.

if you dont like the fact i was trying to help you or pointing out that you setup your permissions on your server, and brad is upset simply because he pointed out nats, and he doesnt like that his software got pointed out. he is going to have to live with it. thats tough.

i only wish you the best in your software executive stats. i dont use it in any programs. but i am sure its a good product. like i said every software has its flaws. and i will repeat.

ES was not a software issue. i will make that clear. it was a permission issue.

in apache you can make it be able to view .pl files or not.

so i am making that clear. it has nothing to do with the code. so if anyone misunderstood, and is dissing the actual code. thats not true.

I just wanted to make that clear.

hopefully that will clear things up.

stfu...you need to learn when to stop saying bs ffs... :disgust

I love your sig :thumbsup

Oh I bet fris is quaking in his boots :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


pathetic

Shok, are you Brad's server admin ?

See this is the part that people are not getting.
Everyone is running screaming about ES flaws, when infact it was in the server setup.

no thank goodness

brad yeah the site he built for our family dog when it passed is nice.. lets not start throwing stones cause its not going to get anywhere.

i have stayed out of this and plan to stay out of this but it seems now your doing this just more as an attention whore syndrome (starting new threads because threads dont go your way that you have already created)

those are my 2 cents.. meh what do i know

Not getting testy.
I have no say in what Brad decides to do or not to do.

I believe Brad posted a screenshot of some stats after someone else on this board posted a software flaw.

I don't think Brad lead the board into an open hole.

ok pass the popcorn. I got some cold beer and grill going. This is going to be long and boring ride. lol

100 sue someone today

too slow woj and chio

YARGH! 101 EDIT: ARGGGGGGGGGGH!

HAHA ice. My first attempt at next page, first post glory, shot down :(

yes that is why i wanted to explain that. and i am sure you have excellent coders.

so people are aware.

anyways. so i hope that cleared things up.

and to anyone who has contacted me about work, please do not contact me. i will not be taking any requests. as i will be doing what i have been doing in the past with my sites.

as i said i do not want to profit from this.

this is all i have to say on this matter.

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and yes i am shaking in my boots oh so much.

anyways. i am sure you have fixed all the .pl files

good luck with your product.

Thats the way i see it, it was soo funny how he was bashing nats and showing other peoples stats. But when someone points out his program has similar flaws he is screaming lawsuit. Maybe you should have made sure your program was free of bugs instead of bashing other competing programs.

This is funny assed shit

it was a flaw in the server setup, NOT the program :2 cents:

moron, learn to read

Shit, my bad

translated this says:

i woke up and realized i was less happy than i was yesterday.

A couple of things I want to address.

1. I've been threatened with the Vancouver PD by Brad Shaw. He later recanted and said he never did, it was a waste of his time. I see this thread going the same way.

2. It may be that it was Brad Shaw's Server that was vulnerable due to his admin/programmer. However, I would think the average webmaster would not be running to trust any product coming from the Brad Shaw camp that would contain or have access to mission critical information. If they can't keep their own info/source secure, why would would anyone else trust them?

Has it been a long day yet?

actually i havent removed any of my sites. why would i do that? especially for brad shaw.

its convient that my box is down :)

just trying to call united layer now.

but thanks for thinking of my sites, always looking for someone to monitor the uptime.

It's interesting to read the difference in opinion between this board and brad's board. GFY is bashing him hard and his board is of the 'go get 'em brad' mentality.

I am staying out of this, none of my business, really....just an observation.

Brad Shaw's initials are BS. Coincidence? You be the judge.

:thumbsup

at least that's what I would do, and it looks like that's what you would do. :2 cents:

and every other businessman as well ..

but maybe this will end in a self-fulfilling prophecy :Oh crap

The sun'll come out tomorrow
bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow
they'll be sun
just thinking about tomorrow
cleares away the cobwebs and the sorow
'till their none
when i'm stuck with a day that's gray and lonely
i just think of my chin and grin and say oh

CHORUS
the sun'll come out tomorrow
so you gotta hang until tomorrow
come what may
tomorrow tomorrow i love ya tomorrow
your always a day away

when i'm stuck with a day that's gray and lonely
i just think of my chin and grin and say oh

CHORUS
the sun'll come out tomorrow
so you gotta hang until tomorrow
come what may
tomorrow tomorrow i love ya tomorrow
your always a day away
tomorrow tomorrow i love ya tomorrow
your always a day away

:winkwink:

Fris has been robbing many honest folks for years.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archiv.../112522-1.html


Chris is a very dangerous and unstable individual to deal with since he will take your money, work, etc. and may or may not decide to honour his end of the bargain. He refused to host a client's site of mine a few years ago when he was hosted with Neethosting (after the client had paid) because I had told him the site was down and asked him to put it back up. I asked him three times over a 24 hour period (which I don't think is that unreasonable) and he cancelled the account without an explanation or payment. In fact, Neethosting.com also mirrors Keyhosters.com (which is really strange).

dramamamamamaaa

LOL always know how to make me laugh.. (and sing apparently)

Nice work Brad.
Fris you script kiddie :1orglaugh