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traffic addict · 06-24-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

YOUR PAYING $80- $100 PER A PAID signup, ClickCash offers a FREE signup. I am sure you understand the difference. How much do you have to collect for it to be a paid signup? What $20 so your getting money right off. What upsells do you guys offer *fan clubs* now thats orginal, lol. borrow that idea from any sites we know

Im not going to tear yoursite down people can log in to ifriends and into imlive and while the sites may look a lot a like, ifriends has a ton of more upsells and girls online.

ClickCash pays me on a FREE signup. the person spends ZERO money I get paid $65 a signup (with my volume). From my traffic and experience over the years I can convert 4x more often with a FREE signup opposed to a PAID signup. So with the same traffic I can make 4 ($65) sales to 1 ($80) sale.

So for the record you have Individual WEBMASTER(S) who make more then 40K a week?

More money then i can "dream of" that's a little obsurd you think. So you most pay millions a week to affiliates because that is where my dreams are, and my goals.

If you call giving your credit card info a "free signup", then OK you get paid for a free signup

If you will check the number of hosts on ImLive and the number of Host on Ifriends you will see that ImLive has more (Keep in Mind that our numbers are unique, and Ifriends hosts can have tens of accounts open at the same time)

If you have checked ImLive you would see that we are not about up-sale, we are all about amazing technology, great service and the best looking girls! also ImLive has plenty of things that Ifriends can't offer such as the Sinulate, the parties, the free credit, the happy hour and plenty more

If I were you, I would have checked their alexa renking, and ours, you could see that they are on their way down for the last 2 years, and we are always on the way up, checkout the page views and you could see that our members are much more active and happy. I think this is the time to move to the winning site

I have to work now, so that our webmasters could make more money. Keep in mind that I'll be happy to have you on board when you are ready to make more money. Till then try to keep out of the ImLive threads unless you want me in the fraud related ClickCash threads

chadglni · 06-24-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by traffic addict

If you call giving your credit card info a "free signup", then OK you get paid for a free signup

If you will check the number of hosts on ImLive and the number of Host on Ifriends you will see that ImLive has more (Keep in Mind that our numbers are unique, and Ifriends hosts can have tens of accounts open at the same time)

If you have checked ImLive you would see that we are not about up-sale, we are all about amazing technology, great service and the best looking girls! also ImLive has plenty of things that Ifriends can't offer such as the Sinulate, the parties, the free credit, the happy hour and plenty more

If I were you, I would have checked their alexa renking, and ours, you could see that they are on their way down for the last 2 years, and we are always on the way up, checkout the page views and you could see that our members are much more active and happy. I think this is the time to move to the winning site

I have to work now, so that our webmasters could make more money. Keep in mind that I'll be happy to have you on board when you are ready to make more money. Till then try to keep out of the ImLive threads unless you want me in the fraud related ClickCash threads

Do you ever plan on paying per free credit card signup?

will76 · 06-24-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by traffic addict

You are full of BS, ImLive and I have never posted anything in a ClickCash fraud related thread, till now! show me otherwise or STFU

hey pal can you say OWNED?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...#pos t7431317

ClickCash thread. Not only your #2 posting spot but you proceed to try to recruit a ClickCash webmaster from the thread. Everyone can read for themselves. he tells you several times "no" and you keep at it in a ClickCash thread trying to recruit a Clickcash webmaster... I just spent 5 mins looking for the hell of it, If you want I can look for more. So who is full of BS ?

will76 · 06-24-2005, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by traffic addict

If you call giving your credit card info a "free signup", then OK you get paid for a free signup

If you will check the number of hosts on ImLive and the number of Host on Ifriends you will see that ImLive has more (Keep in Mind that our numbers are unique, and Ifriends hosts can have tens of accounts open at the same time)

If you have checked ImLive you would see that we are not about up-sale, we are all about amazing technology, great service and the best looking girls! also ImLive has plenty of things that Ifriends can't offer such as the Sinulate, the parties, the free credit, the happy hour and plenty more

If I were you, I would have checked their alexa renking, and ours, you could see that they are on their way down for the last 2 years, and we are always on the way up, checkout the page views and you could see that our members are much more active and happy. I think this is the time to move to the winning site

I have to work now, so that our webmasters could make more money. Keep in mind that I'll be happy to have you on board when you are ready to make more money. Till then try to keep out of the ImLive threads unless you want me in the fraud related ClickCash threads

Look i have tried to be nice to you. You are talking total bullshit.

Free signup (w/credit card) is still FREE signup if they don't charge you anything.

Hell a Free email signup I can convert about 100:1 to one of your PAID signups. I personally convert 4:1 with FREE signups (w/credit card if that makes you feel better) compared to a PAID signup. Yes, people are 4x more likely to use the card if they know they will not be charged, then they will if they know they are going to spend $20+.

Ifriends has chathost with ten(s) of models online at one time? Are you sure about that. They might have a few who have 5+ sessions open but i seriously doubt they have Ten(s) like you say.

you want a side by side, its easy to get unique number of chathost on ifriends, it's the "Show unique names mode", when you turn that on, you get unique models not multiple sessions shown. FYI, its about half the number of live sessions.

I just counted (with unique view on) Ifriends: 1097 total chathost.
Imlive: 513 (assuming every single one of your models only has 1 session)

" If I were you, I would have checked their alexa renking, and ours, you could see that they are on their way down for the last 2 years, and we are always on the way up"

ALEXA RANKING !?! all i can say is haha haha haha if that is the way you judge a site.

Sinulate, isn't that another idea that Imlive ripped off from ifriends ? Cyberdildonics ring a bell ?

So your not about upsell. Upsell means additional features. which equals making the customer happy by offering them several ways for them to enjpy the experience even more. it also means additional revenue. You see this as a bad thing ? You say " If you have checked ImLive you would see that we are not about up-sale".

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Till then try to keep out of the ImLive threads unless you want me in the fraud related ClickCash threads

Hey

you are already in the ClickCash threads... http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...#pos t7431317 trying to recruit clickcash webmasters who keep telling you "no thanks".

Hey you said:

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40k is nothing to us, we pay webmasters more then you can dream

I already asked once and you ignored me. GO ON THE RECORD. NO Lies, do you have affiliate(s) who make more then 40K a week?? Answer the question please. Honestly, of course.

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Atticus · 06-24-2005, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

hey pal can you say OWNED?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...#pos t7431317

ClickCash thread. Not only your #2 posting spot but you proceed to try to recruit a ClickCash webmaster from the thread. Everyone can read for themselves. he tells you several times "no" and you keep at it in a ClickCash thread trying to recruit a Clickcash webmaster... I just spent 5 mins looking for the hell of it, If you want I can look for more. So who is full of BS ?

umm. not sure how this is OWNED.

Hi. Been using ClickCash for awhile now, doing allright.
For no given reason (they wont respond to my emails), my account has been disabled. I have not been violating TOS in any way.

Anyway, time to move on. Anyone got any suggestions? Ill probably get flamed for this being too general.
fyi most the stuff pushed is gay.

WatchingYou

He is clearly asking for other cam sponsors. Pussycash posted their site, what the hell is wrong with that. Another member posted that they do well with clickcash but would like to try imlive and asked if they paid on a free join. The rep said they didnt but would guarantee him 20% more. Thats a pretty damn good deal. This isnt Hijacking a thread.

will76 · 06-24-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

umm. not sure how this is OWNED.

Hi. Been using ClickCash for awhile now, doing allright.
For no given reason (they wont respond to my emails), my account has been disabled. I have not been violating TOS in any way.

Anyway, time to move on. Anyone got any suggestions? Ill probably get flamed for this being too general.
fyi most the stuff pushed is gay.

WatchingYou

He is clearly asking for other cam sponsors. Pussycash posted their site, what the hell is wrong with that. Another member posted that they do well with clickcash but would like to try imlive and asked if they paid on a free join. The rep said they didnt but would guarantee him 20% more. Thats a pretty damn good deal. This isnt Hijacking a thread.

the guy was having trouble with clickcash, the guy who started this thread and everyone who posted before me was not happy with their imlive conversions. I asked if they ever tried Clickcash ? period.

And anyone is welcome to read the thread i posted here. Trafic adict claimed he don't post in ClickCash threads, thats what i found after looking for 5 mins.

Maybe traffic adict will pop back in and answer some of my questions ?

rickdog777 · 06-25-2005, 03:08 AM

When someone promotes a site thats throwing out unbelievable payouts like p cash everyone directs traffic there and nobody converts worth a shit except pussycahs

traffic addict · 06-25-2005, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

the guy was having trouble with clickcash, the guy who started this thread and everyone who posted before me was not happy with their imlive conversions. I asked if they ever tried Clickcash ? period.

And anyone is welcome to read the thread i posted here. Trafic adict claimed he don't post in ClickCash threads, thats what i found after looking for 5 mins.

Maybe traffic adict will pop back in and answer some of my questions ?

As I have said more then once! and this is the last time I'm going to answer your questions in this thread! I have never posted in a ClickCash fraud related thread, and there are more then a few!
In that case read the thread subject "lternative to ClickCash?" the webmaster was asking for it, this is not the case here!

About $40k webmasters, we have more then a few and that is all the info I'm going to give about our numbers. I already offered you to be one of them without taking any chances on your end, as you have said yourself, that I was willing to pre-pay $40k a week for your traffic, no matter what the convert rate will be, so do you think I would do something like that (giving away $40k as you say) if I wasn't already paying these numbers to a few others?

By the way Alxa is a third party tool the same as overture, if you will checkout the overture inventory, you will see that more end users are looking for ImLive then they are looking for Ifriends or any other cam site for that matter, so I guess that Overture is also not the tool to check you popularity.
Maybe you should check if you are not the last affiliate promoting ClickCash

rickdog777 · 06-25-2005, 03:16 AM

pussycash is not paying any damn webmaster 40k for traffic. I hardly beleive that. If you guys offered free trials maybe there might be that kinda money, but NO

sickbeatz · 06-25-2005, 03:18 AM

i forgot my username and password
but ive had a banner for their site on a large traffic site and i can't check stats

so i had to resignup and now we'll see what happens

traffic addict · 06-25-2005, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rickdog777

When someone promotes a site thats throwing out unbelievable payouts like p cash everyone directs traffic there and nobody converts worth a shit except pussycahs

A part of it is true, when we pay $100 per signup (more then anyone else out there) we will get traffic from all over the board, some of it is cam oriented or amateur oriented, and those will convert great as always, with the regular creative tools, but sending your gay traffic to ImLive list of "girls alone" will not make your traffic convert best, that's why we have 20 times more creative tools then you can find in other programs, we do the best to convert your traffic, if you will get in tuch with me or with Adam, we will make sure to find the best creative tool for your traffic.

traffic addict · 06-25-2005, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rickdog777

pussycash is not paying any damn webmaster 40k for traffic. I hardly beleive that. If you guys offered free trials maybe there might be that kinda money, but NO

LOL

Only 34 posts and already talk like a true GFYer, I guess you know my numbers better then I do

traffic addict · 06-25-2005, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sickbeatz

i forgot my username and password
but ive had a banner for their site on a large traffic site and i can't check stats

so i had to resignup and now we'll see what happens

Sickbeatz, this is what we are here for, send me an email to traffic at pussycash.com with your name email address and mail address and I'll lookup your old account for you.

Or you can ICQ me 158 - 789 - 502

will76 · 06-25-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by traffic addict

As I have said more then once! and this is the last time I'm going to answer your questions in this thread! I have never posted in a ClickCash fraud related thread, and there are more then a few!
In that case read the thread subject "lternative to ClickCash?" the webmaster was asking for it, this is not the case here!

About $40k webmasters, we have more then a few and that is all the info I'm going to give about our numbers. I already offered you to be one of them without taking any chances on your end, as you have said yourself, that I was willing to pre-pay $40k a week for your traffic, no matter what the convert rate will be, so do you think I would do something like that (giving away $40k as you say) if I wasn't already paying these numbers to a few others?

By the way Alxa is a third party tool the same as overture, if you will checkout the overture inventory, you will see that more end users are looking for ImLive then they are looking for Ifriends or any other cam site for that matter, so I guess that Overture is also not the tool to check you popularity.
Maybe you should check if you are not the last affiliate promoting ClickCash

ClickCash fraud thread ??? WTF ok you stay out of ClickCash fraud threads and I will stay out of Imlive Fraud threads. So why are you bitching i posted in this one it is not a fraud thread. makes no sense.

I would love to meet up with you one day or one of your affiliates who are making more then 40K a week. I'll bring my proof if they bring their's. Would be nice if anyone could back up what your saying, I can back mine up.

traffic addict · 06-25-2005, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

ClickCash fraud thread ??? WTF ok you stay out of ClickCash fraud threads and I will stay out of Imlive Fraud threads. So why are you bitching i posted in this one it is not a fraud thread. makes no sense.

I would love to meet up with you one day or one of your affiliates who are making more then 40K a week. I'll bring my proof if they bring their's. Would be nice if anyone could back up what your saying, I can back mine up.

LOL, why do you need to play stupid? as if you don't know what am I talking about, every second thread about clickCash is talking about them frauding webmasters, and I'm sure you are not going to post in any related ImLive fraud threads, because there are none

Kevsh · 06-25-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

maybe it takes a few days for the free profiles to convert, just like with dating sites?

anyway, i sent only 700 uniques so far, no sales yet

It does. I think a PussyCash rep was quoted as saying the average turnaround from signup to deposit is 2-3 days. But with this heat wave (in North America at least), I honestly think that cam sites suffer as much or more than others. Just a hunch but it makes sense.

Anyhow, I'm off to snooze ... too damn hot to sit in front of a PC...

CDSmith · 06-25-2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

hey pal can you say OWNED?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...#pos t7431317

ClickCash thread. Not only your #2 posting spot but you proceed to try to recruit a ClickCash webmaster from the thread. Everyone can read for themselves. he tells you several times "no" and you keep at it in a ClickCash thread trying to recruit a Clickcash webmaster... I just spent 5 mins looking for the hell of it, If you want I can look for more. So who is full of BS ?

Uhmm, Will... that guy was specifically asking for an alternative to clickcash. That's why a Pussycash post was made in that thread. I'm sure that had the thread simply been about clickcash and not asking for other sponsors there would have been no mention of pussycash at all there.

Let's at least keep the arguement on course. :D

CDSmith · 06-25-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

the guy who started this thread and everyone who posted before me was not happy with their imlive conversions.

Yes, but no mention from him asking for alternative sponsors.

Your post was threadjacking man. No ways around it. No sense belaboring the point, it was what it was.

You can't compare someone specifically asking for alternative sponsors to someone who wasn't.

will76 · 06-25-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by traffic addict

LOL, why do you need to play stupid? as if you don't know what am I talking about, every second thread about clickCash is talking about them frauding webmasters, and I'm sure you are not going to post in any related ImLive fraud threads, because there are none

believe me no one is "playing" stupid here.

your right, every other thread is about clickcash is about fraud. Just like all your other exaggerations you posted here.
- Your webmasters make more money then I can dream of.
- Your chathost are the hottest on the net.

If you think by posting " has any of you every tried ClickCash?" is a thread jack then thats your opinion. No one replied to me and I didn't post any more after that about this topic until traffic adict made a big deal about it. I wasn't advertising, nothing. I asked a simple question, If thats a thread jack then I have seen a lot worse.

The problem I have had is the shit that traffic adict has said since then, and thats the only reason why i have replied. Trying to incinuate that we i was going to work with Imlive and how he'll wont post the ICQ message is bullshit. This guy is full of lies and exaggerations. But what do i know his affiliates make more money then I can dream of.
I guess they are also not the ones posting in this thread.

CDSmith · 06-25-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

If you think by posting " has any of you every tried ClickCash?" is a thread jack then thats your opinion. No one replied to me and I didn't post any more after that about this topic until traffic adict made a big deal about it. I wasn't advertising, nothing. I asked a simple question, If thats a thread jack then I have seen a lot worse.

Well, it's rather more of a fact than an opinion. :D

But you're correct, there are much worse forms of threadjacking that have gone on.

Now lets all step back and take a breath.

Beer and pizza, anyone?

traffic addict · 06-25-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

believe me no one is "playing" stupid here.

your right, every other thread is about clickcash is about fraud. Just like all your other exaggerations you posted here.
- Your webmasters make more money then I can dream of.
- Your chathost are the hottest on the net.

If you think by posting " has any of you every tried ClickCash?" is a thread jack then thats your opinion. No one replied to me and I didn't post any more after that about this topic until traffic adict made a big deal about it. I wasn't advertising, nothing. I asked a simple question, If thats a thread jack then I have seen a lot worse.

The problem I have had is the shit that traffic adict has said since then, and thats the only reason why i have replied. Trying to incinuate that we i was going to work with Imlive and how he'll wont post the ICQ message is bullshit. This guy is full of lies and exaggerations. But what do i know his affiliates make more money then I can dream of.
I guess they are also not the ones posting in this thread.

I'm not going to replay to your posts any more, I have work to do, so that our affiliates will make more money, and yes affiliates that are doing a million a year are not wasting their time posting on boards just to get some webmasters to click on their sig. Our top affiliates are working hard and doing lots of money, they don't need to go on boards saying how great they are, they already knows it!

Atticus · 06-25-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

not to hijack a thread but have any of you tried ClickCash ?

Not to beat a dead horse but how can you say you didnt hijack a thread when you referred to hijacking it in the original post.

What it comes down to is PussyCash converts great for me and others on this board. ClickCash obviously converts great for you and others. Win Win.

SeniorX · 06-25-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

What was said in our ICQ convo? You contacted me and tried to switch me to imlive. You wanted to prepay me for sales. I told you i don't opperate that way. I would never accept prepayment for anything. For one you would have to pay me a lot more then 40K+ a week to even get my attention. Secondly, i SERIOUSLY doubt your site converts customers into cash like clickcash does. not to knock your site but you don't have half the upsells nor the live models that ifriends has. SO my customers generate more on ifriends that's why clickcash can pay me more. you would likely lose money with my traffic so ofcourse you would be upset you prepaid me 40K+ and My traffic didn't generate more then that back for you. Then i would have to deal with the shit storm i sure i am would hear since you would feel ripped off. Also there is the fact I don't like to owe anyone anything so the whole prepayment thing doesn't sit well with me, not that it really matters because I wouldn't leave ClickCash. Why would I switch from a sponsor who is paying me 35K+ a week just to "TAKE a SHOT" with you. If it doesn't work out with you, I go crawl back to a company that has been loyal to me for 4 years?????? that doesn't make great business sense to me. I know i told you all of this in ICQ so don't make it sound like anything else was said. I may have put it a little nicer in ICQ out of respect and appreciation for your offer but my message was the same as what I posted here.

Your story doesn't make sense - with the amount of sales you claim to be doing you could have tested out how well they convert within a hour and if it wasn't better then switched back. Why would you send traffic to someone for a week if you see it's not making as much money?

And why would you not try out other sponsors if there's a chance they'd make you more money? Deja Moo - the same old GFY bullshit again.

will76 · 06-25-2005, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SeniorX

Your story doesn't make sense - with the amount of sales you claim to be doing you could have tested out how well they convert within a hour and if it wasn't better then switched back. Why would you send traffic to someone for a week if you see it's not making as much money?

And why would you not try out other sponsors if there's a chance they'd make you more money? Deja Moo - the same old GFY bullshit again.

im sorry you don't understand it. He made an offer for paying me more a week. He wasn't looking for a test he wanted all my traffic. I declined. Reason stated above. If you think i am full of shit, your entitled to your opinion.

will76 · 06-25-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Atticus

Not to beat a dead horse but how can you say you didnt hijack a thread when you referred to hijacking it in the original post.

What it comes down to is PussyCash converts great for me and others on this board. ClickCash obviously converts great for you and others. Win Win.

Well i guess it was the way i worded it. To be more clear, I should have said I "hope this doesn't come across as hijacking" as I was just trying to simply ask a question. Didn't tell anyone to come join clickcash or i would make them a deal, i didnt say " Come try us out and convert better then imlive, etc.. " whatever. Would have never imaged a simple question like that on GFY would have cause imlive to go so upset. Funny though a few people posted after me how well they were doing with other programs, didnt name them, but had them in their sig.... anyway this is so pointless. im an idiot for even replying back to this thread anymore, however i think some good information was brought up from my post with traffic adict.

This will be my last post in this thread so not to "hijack" this thread any further, lets put it right back where it was before my post, so you guys can pick up where you left off about how bad your conversion were with imlive. Sorry i diverted the conversation away from that.

poisson · 06-30-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumbler

100 bucks a sign up? 200??:

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Originally Posted by traffic addict

I think that it will be even bigger then that

WTF

50$ a sign up is better then 100$ now?

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