I do not do the initial installations.

Those are often carried out by the application maker.

Read the thread bro...
Are you still mad he had his dog piss on your C&D?

Fris, you may want to talk to your lawyer. He would tell you to shut up. Your brother as well. He spent all morning trying to cover your tracks, call me, etc. It is out of my hands.

what was the goal of posting it on a public board instead of telling them privately?

seriously- what did you possibly gain from that?

i was never mad.

and since you choose to go this route:

Where is the fucking full-page ad I orderred from you months ago and spent 45 minutes on the phone discussing with you?

Where is the fucking money?
Ya never got an invoice did you?
I laid out Nicole for ya some (ABSOLUTLY FREE) and never heard from your ass...

Now ya wonder why I side stepped doing biz with ya after to much flaking.

:1orglaugh

you are certifiable. i told you flat out the ad was a test and it was for d$'s dad's type-in's and i asked for the invoice 10 times only to watch you warring on the board for days while my ad was not completed.

nicole has its point people and they rock fortunately.

you suck at business. every little test is a stepping stone and i would not have tried your promo page special unless i had bigger plans and you failed me.

i win in the end though because now my stuff is pro.

Thats cool.
I am certifiable.

Ya throw an insult then throw shit and I am certifiable?

Have a nice day bro!
Light one up for me.

here is some free advice: before hard selling and upselling a client alien, knock-out the measely $250 order.

you sucking b.s.'s dick and critiquing fris is not at all cool.

I even covered side tracked Kourush for fun...
Covered for you on several occasions on this very board.


Your pretty stupid...
I can see ya got a dagger, just go away dude you got no leg here.

need some legal advice?

Damn Evan...

Unreal.

Ya got a problem recognising loyalty.

i loved the minister photoshop- the rest of your posts were factually incorrect and i just let you be only to revisit and see that you meant well then and i appreciate it.

on this rant you are flat-out wrong though.

fris has to think like a filthy hacker to detect issues. that is fundamental. this is a calling card for him and an early warning that es's software and architecture must have some much bigger problems. you are stearing people towards catastrophe and base things on your experience rather than the current reality.

Ya got Fris on Pay Roll?

You are here because why Evan?

Is it because Brad and you used to fight over Celeb crap day and night just like you target Kourush now?

AHha, now I see the mistake I made in showing you an ounce of respect publicly...

It wasn't an illegal activity, but imho neither professional thing to do. If the owner was your friend you wouldn't have acted like that. Most people's decisions in this business are taken primarily on personal level. I find what you did was weak because it got affected from the opinion I think you have for Brad and not on what really will mean what you did as action.

Now Evan...

Stick that dagger in someone elses back...

Foolio.

Fris is not on our payroll and has done no work for us but based on my instinct - I would recommend him over 20 smokey's anyday. He is real.

I have no targets and Brad is the biggest hypocrit on the face of the earth. He has beat XPays valid legal proceedings like a dead horse for 5 years and is now a huge retard who thinks his idle threats here are worth anything?

Do you see the irony?

you lost my faith when moe$ had to hear from me his pages were coming for too long. that was a let-down :(

Well if ya pulled out a check book and asked for an invoice like a professional...

Stay in contact when a project is ordered...

Poor Moe$ would have a very nice site.
Maybe he should contact me to do it himself.

Maybe he can make for better professionalism than attempting to bad mouth me on a board when there is no baring for it.

fris ............ you are ok in my little black booklet, now all you haters, GFY and ...... BS as in Bull Shit is an ass, end of story !

HAHAHAHA WOJOCITY.org

let me clarify one thing: alien's designs are not what i am complaining about the "pro"ness of.

101... :error

The truth is that you post too much and it prevented you from completing even the invoice. Nice spin though.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You are so fucking clueless...

Let me explain it to you the way a gov't employee should be so you can see the extent of what he did.

You get a letter in the mail from the IRS saying you owe money pay up. You remove the bottom portion (payment voucher) and throw away the top portion (the letter detailing your tax woes). Fris comes along and digs through your trash after you left it by the street (world readable files in world readable directories). He offers you a credit counseling service and a home equity loan and other financial offers. Says he can fix you up real nice if you pay him to.

You decide not to and apply for credit somewhere and they check your report and say your credit stinks. You cannot blame Fris and call him an extortionist because he won't help you with your debt unless you pay him to do so.

He also didn't trespass (hack you) because he access information that in its current form was publically available.

He never hacked you and you obviously don't know what hacking is.

You wish.
EVAN: "Make a Nicole Lens site really fast she is HUGE!"

ALIENQ: "Umm sure I will see what I can do."
Sure man I will get on that, handed a free one concept over to ya totally free.

EVAN: "Dude we need you to get Red Ezra like Tomarrow!"

I contact Red Ezra for ya get em on the plate and I do not hear a fuck all from you. You flaked. You fucked up.

EVAN: "Dude! I need a small 250.00 FPA!"

Click.

Second time i have seen something like this in last 24 hours very strange :arcadefre

NO- it was-

i see you have a $250 fpa special in your sig and it says 1 day turnaround. make me a filter page like this please and invoice kendra.

then you upselling me.

still no filter page.

POT fucks with your perception of time.

I got it all recorded in audio and text, if ya wanna follow the dates.
Ya wana go there?

Why do you think I have never been called out?
Cuz I cover my shit.

Drop it.

Ya have no legs here.

Alien,

Thumbs up for standing up :)

While Brad is considered an asshole by many - he has flamed alot of ppl and been flamed alot also - I have never known him to send C&D's too people for personal flames. (please correct me if I am wrong)

My Beef with Evan was pretty much the C&D's and coming off in the old days like a total ass, better then us all, etc...

if i said to todd- make me a filter page like this i think it would have landed quickly. i would not use todd though.

OK -

SO, is Brad out of his mind like usual with his legal threats here?

i wish you would just invoice kendra @ xpays and do the fucking page already bro. forget nicole - not relevant but thanks for the feedback.

Correction Evan.

You asked about a FPA on 3-26.
You wanted Nicole on 3-28.

So technically ya asked about an FPA First then wanted Nicole 2 days later.
Ya never recieved an invoice becuase you were not schedualed for an FPA as work flow was still pending.

However I took extra time to do a Nicole concept for ya free of charge.
And I get this shit from you?

Not to mention the leg work I did to pull on Red Ezra's arm begging em to shoot.

FREE.

And you flaked entirelly.

and fris did something wrong too according to you.

brad is right according to you.

es doesn't suck according to you.

we went with other options, sorry.

Yup I got a problem with Fris.

The dumb ass attacked me.
On several occasions prior to this, and the dumb ass attacked people I do business with.
I will give you two fucking guesses why I am here.

Evan,

I wouldn't take on any work from your company - thanks but no thanks :)

you are so cool todd!