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NetRodent 06-22-2005 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
OK Fris...
So Ya speak to Greg a very decent guy and decide to expose a cheap server side security flaw of a web application?

Ya knew about the security issue before hand and the professional thing to do is post the info on a public board?

Your definatly a guy that can not be trusted.
No questions asked.

Actually that's the estabished and accepted method of bug reporting. Notify the company privately and if they don't fix it in a reasonable amount of time make the bug public so they have to fix it. Its far better to embarrass the company into fixing the bug than to have someone less reputable discover the bug and be free exploit it indefinitely.

mrkris 06-22-2005 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetRodent
Actually that's the estabished and accepted method of bug reporting. Notify the company privately and if they don't fix it in a reasonable amount of time make the bug public so they have to fix it. Its far better to embarrass the company into fixing the bug than to have someone less reputable discover the bug and be free exploit it indefinitely.

I agree, this goes for all exploits found. They were given a decent amount of time to fix the bug, but they chose not to. This time, they have to or all hell will fall onto their laps. Personally, if Fris got into my server, I would be like, "Dude wtf ... sweet, how did you get in?"

Machete_ 06-22-2005 05:55 PM

Fris - you are one of the few guys I would trust on this board. If anything goes wrong, and you need something to do somewhere else - hit me up:
[email protected]

Machete_ 06-22-2005 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
He was on our server without our permission, we never hired him.

may I please visit your website?


idiot...

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2005 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetRodent
Actually that's the estabished and accepted method of bug reporting. Notify the company privately and if they don't fix it in a reasonable amount of time make the bug public so they have to fix it. Its far better to embarrass the company into fixing the bug than to have someone less reputable discover the bug and be free exploit it indefinitely.

Really?

Let me know when it becomes LAW so I can open a business cracking and freaking doing Elite Hacks for profit.

I would call it H/3x Inc.

Shok 06-22-2005 06:03 PM

Hey Fris where was this "publicly available" place you found the urls at?

NetRodent 06-22-2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Really?

Let me know when it becomes LAW so I can open a business cracking and freaking doing Elite Hacks for profit.

I would call it H/3x Inc.

Anything that's not explicitly illegal is legal. Otherwise we'd better all start holding our breath until breathing becomes law.

It would make far more sense for you tell me when it becomes ILLEGAL.

TDF 06-22-2005 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebus_dk
may I please visit your website?


idiot...



:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Alex 06-23-2005 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Accusing you of "hacking him" on a public board is slandering you. Unless he can prove you did it, which even if you did I doubt he could do it. Sounds like you have a better case against him then he does you. I think accusing someone of hacking your system is damaging to their reputation and you could be compensaited for those damages.

What slander.

I think even more higly of fris now. Nothing changed. In fact bradshaw is owning himself even more.

Alex 06-23-2005 12:11 PM

Oh and 50 _____

Alex 06-23-2005 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shok
Hey Fris where was this "publicly available" place you found the urls at?

It was something as easy as

www.siccash.com/wminfo or www.siccash.com/private or www.siccash.com/emails

all with no pass protection.


EDIT: 50 I rules.

beemk 06-23-2005 12:16 PM

sue brad shaw for defamation of character fris

Brujah 06-23-2005 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shok
Hey Fris where was this "publicly available" place you found the urls at?

It was siccash.com/admin if I'm not mistaken. The passwords were also very insecure if I remember one was just " sicadmin ", you see how bad this is ? Would it be the same admin doing the installations ? Is AlienQ doing installs of this too ?

Alex 06-23-2005 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah
It was siccash.com/admin if I'm not mistaken. The passwords were also very insecure if I remember one was just " sicadmin ", you see how bad this is ? Would it be the same admin doing the installations ? Is AlienQ doing installs of this too ?

Dont worry, if alienq is doing installs, the passwords would be Names ofvarious designer techniques which he invented.

Meaning

User: NONE
Pass: NONE

Holly 06-23-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
Dont worry, if alienq is doing installs, the passwords would be Names ofvarious designer techniques which he invented.

Meaning

User: NONE
Pass: NONE

:1orglaugh

pradaboy 06-23-2005 12:44 PM

we need fresh drama

xxxice 06-23-2005 12:59 PM

Fris is a great guy and this shiz pisses me off :mad:

tranza 06-23-2005 01:01 PM

fris is a fucking idiot.

QuaWee 06-23-2005 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza
fris is a fucking idiot.

how? 678

Varius 06-23-2005 01:13 PM

The funniest part of that article is how Brad Shaw reportedly 'went to the Secret Service' on this :1orglaugh

Fris did him a FAVOR here, by exposing serious security holes that needed to be fixed immediately. Most companies pay for that kind of service and information :2 cents:

Whether or not Fris asked Shaw for cash to not expose them is irrelevant. That's a "He said She said" situation anyways. However, Shaw SHOULD have paid him, or atleast thanked him, for showing him the vulnerabilities.

Also, what Fris did doesn't qualify as hacking or illegal system entry and he could never be prosecuted for those actions.

That's just my 2 cents here :)

Shok 06-23-2005 01:15 PM

I didn't realize so many GFY'rs were lawyers.

what are the odds?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2005 01:21 PM

Executive Stats is installed by the ES Team.

They are rather fast and efficient at it, and communications with them is always perfect to work any technical issues and even modifications.

will76 06-23-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
What slander.

I think even more higly of fris now. Nothing changed. In fact bradshaw is owning himself even more.


Well judging from the quote under your name " i am a l337 haX0r 1111 " some people might take being called a " hacker" and being accused of doing something illegal as being a good thing. To the rest of the normal world, we see those accusations as damaging = slander (unless it can be proved).

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2005 01:24 PM

All I see is a bunch of Wendy's employee's up in arms here...

Alex 06-23-2005 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Well judging from the quote under your name " i am a l337 haX0r 1111 " some people might take being called a " hacker" and being accused of doing something illegal as being a good thing. To the rest of the normal world, we see those accusations as damaging = slander (unless it can be proved).

I was being sarcasitic :1orglaugh

Yes, it is slander. But i dont think fris would spend his time worrying about it.

RogerV 06-23-2005 01:26 PM

I purchased ES for my new program because my techs and I felt it was the best system.

And I?m glad Fris found some security holes so the system can be beefed up and even stronger.

All and all I see this as good Drama

As far as Brad goes Brad will be Brad and he did get his ass handed to him.

And once I launch I would love for some hackers to try and hack me just to be super secure. Bring it on :winkwink:

Giorgio_Xo 06-23-2005 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Yeah it kinda sucks someone points out holes in your program and you accuse him of being a hacker. Just because he found the hole doesn't mean he put it there. :upsidedow

Microsoft does that on a daily basis.

Giorgio_Xo 06-23-2005 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Bring it on :winkwink:

You are crazy. Most of these script won't hold up to a qualified black hat.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2005 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly
:1orglaugh

Are you Holly Moss?

Basic_man 06-23-2005 01:33 PM

Mouhahahaha, this thread is too funny :D

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2005 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giorgio_Xo
You are crazy. Most of these script won't hold up to a qualified black hat.

Is there a certification course for Black Hat now or somthing?

All systems are Vulnerable. Period.


Luckily the invite is to GFYers.

A crowd that couldnt fuck a whore on a friday night without telling her to see a sig.

fris 06-23-2005 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
Bringer, you make it sound like we were told of specfic problems and did not fix them. That is flat out incorrect. We were told there were "holes" and if we secured his services, he would tell us where and they would be fixed. IMHO this was extortion. He was on our server without our permission, we never hired him.


k mr tech guy, who cant even post an image let alone do html,

being on the server meaning at the console.

which i never even had access to.

i visited a public avail url. no login box came up, i did not brute force my way in. i did not hack my way in.

how is this extortion? i never asked for money or else i am going to expose you. that was never this issue. the issue was here is your faults your permissins are messed up fix them so your clients know about them and you can make your software better. you really need to get that through your thick skull. i dont care if your software is the best or the worst that is not what its about. its about correcting the problem.

i really wish you would understand that.

if i wanted money i would have asked for it. but i would never want to work for you ever. after how cocky you are. i have worked for cocky bosses before. in person i would end up punching you out.

see the problem is you have no tech skills that is a problem when you run a company, you need to know what is going on. you pay little lemmings and assume they know everything while you sit back with your wallet.

that is not good. you need to know some tech skills.

fris 06-23-2005 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Executive Stats is installed by the ES Team.

They are rather fast and efficient at it, and communications with them is always perfect to work any technical issues and even modifications.


oh are you their marketing rep now? major ass kissing now.

ULVideo 06-23-2005 01:46 PM

I think the biggest "question of fact" is to whether fris asked BS for $. If fris did ask him for $, and after not getting it put the info out on GFY, then he's an extortionist. But fris says that this did not happen. Without knowing what the actual truth is, it's very hard to pass judgement on this matter.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2005 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
oh are you their marketing rep now? major ass kissing now.


Anyone interested in learning about the best solututions in Affiliates programs feel free to hit me up.

I know the In's and Outs of most affiliates scripts advantages and disadvantages from Jumbo to RiverStyx to Executive Stats.

Figuring out a working model.
Content acquisition.
2257 Software and record keeping.

Graphic Design.
Content Production. (Exclusive/Semi Exclusive) and where to get the best content from responsible content providers.
From World Wide Content to AmaContent to Liscensed Content so on and so forth.

With nearly 12 years experience in this industry I can attest there are hustlers and conmen out there, but I will always give you the straight dope with professional working ethics.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2005 01:50 PM

Fris you had done what no real professional would do.

Your a dirt bag...

Rui 06-23-2005 02:06 PM

Hackers?...excuse me but since when hacking goes in the line of finding and sharing exploits...

Somebody please teach this sort of thing to Brad Shaw before he keeps making a fool of himself...

they sell a $25k software and don't even know how to secure their own server...scary to say the least...

Rui 06-23-2005 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76
Accusing you of "hacking him" on a public board is slandering you. Unless he can prove you did it, which even if you did I doubt he could do it. Sounds like you have a better case against him then he does you. I think accusing someone of hacking your system is damaging to their reputation and you could be compensaited for those damages.

We have a winner :thumbsup

AlienQ - All the "professionalism" talk when are talking about Brad Shawn here..double standarts don't you think?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-23-2005 02:13 PM

Actually if ya follow the passage of time to where it started...

Ya might see differently.

Even if we traced it back to Danza.

Danza went to Brads board.
Spammed didnt make a big impression I suppose, got banned I recall.
Then Danza came to GFy talkin shit about Brad.

Brad is a reactive person like myself.

Ya fuck with me I fire back.
If I didnt it would be a sign of weakness.

However on the brighter side.
Ya do biz with me, or I work with you or even agree with what ya think the entire level changes.

Business is business.
Shit talkers I can play with, always have!
Its a promo at the end of the day win or loose.

XPays 06-23-2005 02:18 PM

no offense alien. i dig you as a person but i would not advise anybody to employ you for affiliate program installation or maint. after reading your posts the last few days.

now i know how blind loyalty sounds and to brad ?

wake up dude!


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