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Old 06-20-2005, 06:32 AM   #1
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SubmitPasses adds TimsMovies.com. #1 on Google...

We are proud to announce the addition TimsMovies.com to SubmitPasses

This site is a perfect example where quality means MORE the quantity. TimsMovies is number 1 on Google for the search term "porn movies".

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Old 06-20-2005, 07:17 AM   #2
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yeah, noticed that my free pass didn't work this morning when I tried using. He must have dumped all his old partners
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Old 06-20-2005, 07:31 AM   #3
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We are proud to announce the addition TimsMovies.com to SubmitPasses

This site is a perfect example where quality means MORE the quantity. TimsMovies is number 1 on Google for the search term "porn movies".

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I have already purchased my pass on Sunday
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yeah, noticed that my free pass didn't work this morning when I tried using. He must have dumped all his old partners
How was the quality on the free passes?
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I have already purchased my pass on Sunday
Were you set up ok?
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ok, but nothing special. I might give a paid one a try for a month just to test it.
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I've tried to use your service at least 5 times now and have no luck with MVC and I'm not willing to put out for three months worth without testing for 1 month to start.

Do you guys have any other payment solutions?
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They force you to pay for three months up front if you use Epassporte (which I try not to use anyhow).

I'm not going to pay for three months without testing for a month first. I don't see the need to force the three month minimum on people.
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They force you to pay for three months up front if you use Epassporte (which I try not to use anyhow).

I'm not going to pay for three months without testing for a month first. I don't see the need to force the three month minimum on people.
Same reason I haven't got any accounts there.
Paying for 3 months the first time is not something I want to do with out knowing how it will do.
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Same reason I haven't got any accounts there.
Paying for 3 months the first time is not something I want to do with out knowing how it will do.
They do offer the MyVirtualCard setup which will let you do 1 month and rebill.

BUT...I've tried 2 CCs and 3 debit cards and not a single one will work with MVC. I've called my banks and CC companies to see what's up and they tell me that they don't even see an attempt to process from MVC and MVC says there's nothing they can do about it.

I've already wasted enough time trying to buy from GTS, don't understand why it's such a hassle.

I'm sure they're losing business they don't even know about.
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How many galleries can I submit a day with that pass?
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How many galleries can I submit a day with that pass?
It doesn't say on the SubmitPass site or in his rules.

Unlimited perhaps?

Now if I could only pay for one without any hassles.
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They do offer the MyVirtualCard setup which will let you do 1 month and rebill.

BUT...I've tried 2 CCs and 3 debit cards and not a single one will work with MVC. I've called my banks and CC companies to see what's up and they tell me that they don't even see an attempt to process from MVC and MVC says there's nothing they can do about it.

I've already wasted enough time trying to buy from GTS, don't understand why it's such a hassle.

I'm sure they're losing business they don't even know about.
I tried last week 3 times and the same thing happened. They need another billing option
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I tried last week 3 times and the same thing happened. They need another billing option
We're not the only ones, I've talked to a few other people as well.

Epassporte and their merchant account would be fine by me.

They just need to offer the one month option there as well.
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Hi guys, Ray stept out for a few hours to go take care of some stuff for the new office. He will ba back later to answer your questions.

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Hi guys, Ray stept out for a few hours to go take care of some stuff for the new office. He will ba back later to answer your questions.
Thx Raimo

Sorry guys, the 3 month option is not going away any time soon. To charge 1 month at a time with Epass or wire would be to hard to track with rebills and cancelations. Dont forget, we are not talking about a few joins here, we are talking well over 1000 since Submitpasses went live.

Its not like that is you only choice anyway, We do have monthly options using MVC. If your having trouble with it, please use our contact form..I WILL help you out..as I ALWAYS do.

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4 galls daily.

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TGP that accept money should remove all free partners to even things out....
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How many galleries can I submit a day with that pass?
The question really is.. "how many will be listed?". With my last trial.. less than 50%. Site's own sponsor hosted galleries take precident over paying customers. That's why I'm not using them again.
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To be honest, I was submitting there for free for awhile and maybe got one sale/month IF THAT. It's not worth the money in my opinion.
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The question really is.. "how many will be listed?". With my last trial.. less than 50%. Site's own sponsor hosted galleries take precident over paying customers. That's why I'm not using them again.
So what your saying is that if you submit 30 galls a month, you will get about 15 listed...and that for you is not enough? Concidering that most our sites are under $60/month. So 15 listings for under $60 is not good?

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So what your saying is that if you submit 30 galls a month, you will get about 15 listed...and that for you is not enough? Concidering that most our sites are under $60/month. So 15 listings for under $60 is not good?

Ray
I didn't even get 50%. It's probably even less than that. Since you never even know if a gallery's going to be listed - it's a waste of time when I can get free partner submits elsewhere - just the same amount of traffic and know they'll be posted. I just checked one of the sites I used to submit to. There were roughly 108 thumb spots on the site for the week. 26 of those are the site's own and 50% of the galleries I submitted were being rejected in favor of hosted? Forget it...and those aren't guarenteed sales.. you act like they are.

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$35 for a 100K movie site that skims is taking the paid spots trend a little too far.

Overture results:
timsmovies.com 2236
timsmovies 1580

Doesn't even have many bookmarks . . .
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$35 for a 100K movie site that skims is taking the paid spots trend a little too far.

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timsmovies 1580

Doesn't even have many bookmarks . . .
why are you using overture to get a rough estimate of how many bookmarks the site has?
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why are you using overture to get a rough estimate of how many bookmarks the site has?
well
overture gives you an idea of the total amount of bookmarkers for sure
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Ray, in all honesty, I'm all for your service.

BUT...

The 3 months in advance is just crap. We had some trouble with one of your passes and I feel like we lost 300 dollars, simply as that. If you can't get a decent CC processor, which is not the case of MVC, as you can see in this thread, we'll have to avoid Submitpasses even tho we find the service very convenient. Plus, you'll need to find a solution to the submitter rights to be posted VS the TGP owners greed. I'm tired of seeing 90% of the galleries at some of the TGPs you're running are FHG and submitted galleries aren't even checked at all.

So far, we had beef with one of your passes and the TGP owner said we'd try the full 3 months and after that he'd be refunding the money if we're not satisfied. Just because of that, I'll keep my mouth shut untill seeing what happens in this 3 months lapse. But sure as hell I'm more than hesitant to pay you 3 months in advance again. Not because of you, since you're the middleman here and again, you're running a tight service. But you can't be just a middleman, you got to have some control over TGP owners and you must find a reasonable way to charge for your services, which you aren't doing right now

Just my 2 cents
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Ray, in all honesty, I'm all for your service.

BUT...

The 3 months in advance is just crap. We had some trouble with one of your passes and I feel like we lost 300 dollars, simply as that. If you can't get a decent CC processor, which is not the case of MVC, as you can see in this thread, we'll have to avoid Submitpasses even tho we find the service very convenient. Plus, you'll need to find a solution to the submitter rights to be posted VS the TGP owners greed. I'm tired of seeing 90% of the galleries at some of the TGPs you're running are FHG and submitted galleries aren't even checked at all.

So far, we had beef with one of your passes and the TGP owner said we'd try the full 3 months and after that he'd be refunding the money if we're not satisfied. Just because of that, I'll keep my mouth shut untill seeing what happens in this 3 months lapse. But sure as hell I'm more than hesitant to pay you 3 months in advance again. Not because of you, since you're the middleman here and again, you're running a tight service. But you can't be just a middleman, you got to have some control over TGP owners and you must find a reasonable way to charge for your services, which you aren't doing right now

Just my 2 cents
Alan, every time we make a post there is some negativity coming from you. First off, if you have a problem with one of our sites, your not suppose to contact the owner directly, you contact us. Im still waiting for your email from the first time you bitched me out here. Email me and NOT Xnxx and we WILL help you solve your problem.

You keep insulting our operation, saying its crap...I think you even called us thieves once..or something to that affect. You want a refund? Id be more than glad to give one.

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Every time you TGP/MGP owners and aggregators make the newbies pay to submit, you prove your traffic isn't worth shit. I said that at least 5 years ago. I'd go into it further, but I honestly want TGPs and the like to go away. They're bad for business and broght alot of the ire down on us from the bible thumpers. bible thumpers B.T.W.

Traffic is king you say? Maybe so. But I can honestly thank you for driving bandwidth prices down, so thanks muchly for that. You don't need lemmings to get it, you just have to know where to find it. (without the issues at hand to complicate matters).

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"So far, we had beef with one of your passes and the TGP owner said we'd try the full 3 months and after that he'd be refunding the money if we're not satisfied."

Alan, You think your gonna get to submit to XNXX for free for 3 months? Not gonna happen, contact me tomorow and I WILL refund you for what you have not used. Dont wait till the end of the 3 months and try to get it free.

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Thanks Ray...

But I've already been on the phone with MVC and wasted enough time trying to get things in working order. If MVC can't fix their shit, I doubt that you will be able to do it for them.

It seems to me like you're not interested in the business that you are losing and might potentially lose as well.

The solution to your 3 month minimum would be to allow people to purchase a ONE TIME - ONE MONTH pass to test it out. THEN...you can force us to buy in three month blocks.

YOU ARE losing business here, if you care...why not do something about it?
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Thanks Ray...

But I've already been on the phone with MVC and wasted enough time trying to get things in working order. If MVC can't fix their shit, I doubt that you will be able to do it for them.

It seems to me like you're not interested in the business that you are losing and might potentially lose as well.

The solution to your 3 month minimum would be to allow people to purchase a ONE TIME - ONE MONTH pass to test it out. THEN...you can force us to buy in three month blocks.

YOU ARE losing business here, if you care...why not do something about it?
I offer to help you and you say "I doubt that you will be able to do it for them"

"why not do something about it" why not try contacting me?
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To be honest, I was submitting there for free for awhile and maybe got one sale/month IF THAT. It's not worth the money in my opinion.
my galleries got approved automatically when i had a partner way back too. i didnt notice much sales if it all. i must agree with you too.

partners on submit pass i would definately go with are video post, elephant list. are for sure. thats quality traffic
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For those of you who dont know how to conatct me

www.submitpasses.com/contact.htm
Contact form come to my email first.

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I offer to help you and you say "I doubt that you will be able to do it for them"

"why not do something about it" why not try contacting me?
Listen man...I'm not trying to be an asshole, but it seems that you're not listening here. I've exhausted all avenues with MVC and am not willing to pay 3 month in advance to test something out.

If you have another solution, please let us all know. I'll drop you a line tomorrow, and hope we can get this squared away.

YOU ARE LOSING MONEY, even if 1000 people have purchased passes since you guys got up and running.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:45 PM   #46
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Email sent Ray.

Looking forward to seeing what you can do for me tomorrow.

Thanks.
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Old 06-20-2005, 10:28 PM   #47
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Alan, every time we make a post there is some negativity coming from you. First off, if you have a problem with one of our sites, your not suppose to contact the owner directly, you contact us. Im still waiting for your email from the first time you bitched me out here. Email me and NOT Xnxx and we WILL help you solve your problem.

You keep insulting our operation, saying its crap...I think you even called us thieves once..or something to that affect. You want a refund? Id be more than glad to give one.

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Ray, as I've said is nothing against you, is not negativity, but telling what's going on. However, we did contact you, you told us by mail to contact the TGP owner (I didn't mention the TGP btw, it was you) and so we did. And he told that to our guy, which I must say sounded really weird, because what if I use the 3 months, get a lot of hits and then ask for a refund? Of course, just in case you don't remind it we kept all the mails, including those were you told our guy to contact the TGP owner himself.

Anyway, I don't see the negativity here, I'm saying I WOULD buy more passes if you had a one month option to avoid things like those that happened. Nothing else. Since MVC is not an option (it doesn't work 90% of times) I just asked for that. If PURCHASING your services and ASKING FOR MORE is negative for your business, then I don't know what you call positive

Either way, this is not bitching, if you want to refund us to be sure we don't use that submit pass (we even told you to move the funds to any other pass 2 or 3 weeks ago) that's cool. If this bothered you, sorry, but you gotta understand we're not saying this to bash you, just giving you some suggestions to improve your service. Maybe I didn't say enough times (just 3 or 4 in a single post) how much I like your service and how convenient I find it

Anyway, the 3 months question remains, we've been fucked by another company selling passes (not submit passes before you start with the "negativity" thing), we didn't like the output of this 3 months commitment, so it's unlikely we'll buy more passes if they're 3 months ahead. Now, if we can buy 1 month to test... that's a different story, we'd buy a lot. As you can see, this must be the most productive "negative" post you've ever seen

btw, don't get too paranoid, how would I be giving you money if I think you're a thief? You gotta work on that

Now chill out and if you don't want to take my suggestions, that's cool, it was just my 2 cents, not an imposition. And if you want us to contact you once again, no problem

and a "negative" toast
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Old 06-20-2005, 10:30 PM   #48
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and I did use a lot of smilies to graphically reinforce the meaning of my words!
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:01 AM   #49
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Went to see the site, clicked on a hairy movie, and ended up at a Lolita MPEG site.

Not a good thing.
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:03 AM   #50
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