MPAA wins. You will soon no longer be able to record TV. - GoFuckYourself.com

mardigras · 06-20-2005, 08:41 PM

The Broadcast Flag bill that was defeated in court is about to be slipped back in piggybacking on an appropriation bill & rammed through anyway.

Quote:

"The Broadcast Flag cripples any device capable of receiving over-the-air digital broadcasts."

"It give Hollywood movie studios a permanent veto over how members of the American public use our televisions."

"It forces American innovators to beg the FCC for permission before adding new features to TV."

"It will prevent fair use of copyrighted works: critical review, and use of material in distance learning"

"This is an important issue which will affect all Americans, and should not be inserted in a large bill, at the last moment, with no debate."

http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=247935
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/06/20..._your_sen.html

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The Broadcast Flag, which places copy controls on DTV signals, is aimed at stopping people from making digitally perfect copies of television shows and redistributing them. Yet it also stops people from making perfectly legitimate personal copies of broadcasts. More disturbing, the Broadcast Flag will outlaw the manufacture and import of a whole host of TiVo-like devices that send DTV signals into a computer for backup, editing, and playback. After the Broadcast Flag regulations go into effect, all personal video recorder (PVR) technologies must be Broadcast Flag-compliant and "robust" against user modification -- and that means, once again, that the entertainment industry is trying to tell you what you can do with your own machines.

http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2005_02.php
Check out eff.org's main page on the Broadcast Flag:
http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/HDTV/

The Truth Hurts · 06-20-2005, 08:45 PM

blame bush!

mardigras · 06-20-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

blame bush!

I will. He did appoint the leadership of the FCC. The FCC was the one pushing for this bill (as well as they are pushing to eliminate analog programming) and it was decided in court that they had no authority to dictate that all consumer video gear must contain DRM. So the MPAA lobbied to get it slipped in quietly into another bill.

directfiesta · 06-20-2005, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts

blame bush!

Should we blame Clinton then ?

Etik Media · 06-20-2005, 09:07 PM

only in america

wallst · 06-20-2005, 09:09 PM

thank god i allready own an ATI AIW card.

tony286 · 06-20-2005, 09:11 PM

its getting so fucking crazy

mardigras · 06-20-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wallst

thank god i allready own an ATI AIW card.

You might want to pick up a spare one while you still can

High Plains Drifter · 06-20-2005, 09:14 PM

You'll still be able to record TV. It just can't be output to any other device at more than 720x480.

That doesn't make it suck any less, however.

mardigras · 06-20-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnywussy

You'll still be able to record TV. It just can't be output to any other device at more than 720x480.

That doesn't make it suck any less, however.

Actually if full Digital Rights Management is implemented the content producer will be able to set the terms. They could allow you to record, set it so you had to watch the program within a certain amount of time or block recording all together. If the producer of a show decided that instead of your timeshifting (and skipping the commercials) on a program that comes on while you are at work he'd rather you have to wait until the end of the year and buy the season discs all he'd have to do is set the DRM to block recording.

Of course there will be gadgets to get around this BS, even if it involves converting digital to analog (and that's another whole ballgame of sucks

)

Paraskass · 06-20-2005, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras

I will. He did appoint the leadership of the FCC. The FCC was the one pushing for this bill (as well as they are pushing to eliminate analog programming) and it was decided in court that they had no authority to dictate that all consumer video gear must contain DRM. So the MPAA lobbied to get it slipped in quietly into another bill.

LOL

the leader of the FCC is Colin Powell's son.

jollyperv · 06-20-2005, 09:30 PM

Some 16 year old kid somewhere will figure out a mod, then it's back to square one.

Probono · 06-20-2005, 09:32 PM

Adam Smith would roll over in his grave. Capitalism thwarted by government trying to protect capitalists. LOL

mardigras · 06-20-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyperv

Some 16 year old kid somewhere will figure out a mod, then it's back to square one.

Actually, you could get around it with existing equipment such as a cheap RF modulator. If you were saving to disc you would be going digital to analog and back to digital. Best case scenario would be VHS quality.

mardigras · 06-20-2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Probono

Adam Smith would roll over in his grave. Capitalism thwarted by government trying to protect capitalists. LOL

It could be a revenue stream for a network... sell consumers an monthly/quarterly/annual key to watch programs recorded from your network.

High Plains Drifter · 06-20-2005, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mardigras

Actually if full Digital Rights Management is implemented the content producer will be able to set the terms. They could allow you to record, set it so you had to watch the program within a certain amount of time or block recording all together. If the producer of a show decided that instead of your timeshifting (and skipping the commercials) on a program that comes on while you are at work he'd rather you have to wait until the end of the year and buy the season discs all he'd have to do is set the DRM to block recording.

Of course there will be gadgets to get around this BS, even if it involves converting digital to analog (and that's another whole ballgame of sucks

)

We're talking about the broadcast flag, not full DRM, right?

The essence of the FCC's rule was in 47 CFR 73.9002(b) and the following sections:

"No party shall sell or distribute in interstate commerce a Covered Demodulator Product that does not comply with the Demodulator Compliance Requirements and Demodulator Robustness Requirements."

The Demodulator Compliance Requirements insisted that all HDTV demodulators must listen for the flag (or assume it to be present in all signals). Flagged content must be output only to "protected outputs" or in degraded form: through analog outputs or digital outputs with visual resolution of 720x480 pixels or less--less than 1/4 of HDTV's capability. Flagged content may be recorded only by "Authorized" methods, which may include tethering of recordings to a single device.

Shoehorn! · 06-20-2005, 09:42 PM

pornguy · 06-20-2005, 09:49 PM

3 more years. How far down a balck hole can this administration push us?

AdultMovies.bz · 06-20-2005, 10:03 PM

Thank god I don't live in America.
I think this is going to become a very common phrase...

The Truth Hurts · 06-20-2005, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Should we blame Clinton then ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Glickman

Vitasoy · 06-20-2005, 11:12 PM

Sigh... more restrictions. Land of the free?

Brujah · 06-21-2005, 12:48 AM

I give up. I've decided to become a politician instead.

Red Ezra · 06-21-2005, 01:23 AM

wtf? assholes!

jigg · 06-21-2005, 01:33 AM

it will be challeneged. They already lost once. NOthing's to say they won't lose again

Trax · 06-21-2005, 03:47 AM

TheDoc · 06-21-2005, 05:02 AM

Bah, someone will make something to beat it..

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