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Old 06-17-2005, 03:47 PM   #101
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People will always believe in conspiracies. That will never change.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:55 PM   #104
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People will always believe in conspiracies. That will never change.

Didn't your mother ever tell you not to believe everything they tell you on TV?
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:55 PM   #105
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interesting stuff

so they would have had to blow up the plane and kill a plane with 64 people on it..and use a rocket to blow up the pentagon..that creates more questions....so it is surely a plane.

however...why it wasnt shot down miles and miles away from the place...who knows
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:55 PM   #106
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Nice to see that there's informed people with higher than average intellect on GFY..

Thanks, right back at you. There's hope for us yet.
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:58 PM   #107
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People will always believe in conspiracies. That will never change.

are you implying that conspiracies CANT exist? Look at the fucking evidences before making any type of judgement.. Unbelievable..

Here's a start: (tip of the iceberg)
http://70.84.33.210/%7Einfomedi/vide...law_911_hi.wmv

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Old 06-17-2005, 04:01 PM   #108
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are you implying that conspiracies CANT exist? Look at the fucking evidences before making any type of judgement.. Unbelievable..
Of course they don't! No group of people has ever been dishonest! It's impossible! Where's your tinfoil hat? The world is exactly as it seems on CNN!
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:03 PM   #109
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"Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead"


Bob Dylan is smarter than all of us combined.
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:05 PM   #110
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damn, I forgot how you good you are at sucking the logic out of a conversation.
It's not fictional, but its not like a Hells Angels either. Al Qaeda, The Base, is more a loose network of independant cells, splinter groups, and other organizations all with a similar goal.
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If the government wanted us all to believe that a big ass jetliner crashed into the Pentagon, which is in the MIDDLE OF A FUCKING HUGELY POPULATED AREA, then they would have just flown a fucking big ass jetliner into it themselves. To make a fucking airliner dissappear and have some sort of rocket or drone crash into it, with the possibility of witnesses seeing this rocket thing, then to go to the trouble of scattering debris around the Pentagon, is fucking stupid as shit.

Occam's Razor, motherfuckers.
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read david icke about 911..Book is called Alice in Wonderland or what really hapened
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People will always believe in conspiracies. That will never change.
Absolutely.
Some people even beleived that a foreign president of an unfriendly country was developping nuclear weapons, could deliver them with 15 minutes and that he possed stockpiles of biologecical weapons ... They also beleived that we was behind 9/11 .
They even beleived that God ask them to go and free them ...

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It's not fictional, but its not like a Hells Angels either. Al Qaeda, The Base, is more a loose network of independant cells, splinter groups, and other organizations all with a similar goal.

...and the name "Al Qaeda" (sp) was made up by CNN and other western elites trying to scare us into submission. There's never been any evidence found anywhere than any group uses that name. Just another lie to keep the herd in line while their retirement money is being handed over to Lockheed Martin.

"Sorry, we can't afford to give the people the money we promised them the last time they were close to revolution, but look at these new jets we have to free the world from terrorism".

...and we're the idiots.
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Old 06-17-2005, 04:20 PM   #116
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Thank God, this thread died quick. Now instead of arguing I'll crack a cold one and sit on the deck watching the tide roll in. ahhhhhhhhhhh, I love summer.
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Old 06-17-2005, 07:47 PM   #118
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...and the name "Al Qaeda" (sp) was made up by CNN and other western elites trying to scare us into submission. There's never been any evidence found anywhere than any group uses that name. Just another lie to keep the herd in line while their retirement money is being handed over to Lockheed Martin.

"Sorry, we can't afford to give the people the money we promised them the last time they were close to revolution, but look at these new jets we have to free the world from terrorism".

...and we're the idiots.


Anyone else enjoy the irony of a canadian making fun of someone else because the government takes their money?


I"m sorry, I wanted the thread to die, but I really had to laugh.


Ok, tell us more about super secret organization of rich people that takes our money. Also, thank them for letting you be the lone canadian citizen that they confided all their plans in.
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I'm pretty sure we are being lied to about 9/11.

The suspicious collapse of the twin towers and WTC 7, the elimination of the evidence and refusal to conduct a serious investigation.

The "plane crash" into the Pentagon where no plane was to be found.

Shorting of airline stock days before 9/11, linked to former CIA top dogs, investigation pulled.

Head of Pakistani secret service wires money to Muhamad atta, has meeting with top US officials before and after 9/11.

All Arab delegates and members of the Royal Arab families were rounded up and flown back to Saudi Arabia. The plane was in the air so fast there's no way in hell they waited until the actual attacks to start, meaning they were clued in ahead of time. The US military that is, since they coordinated the exodus.

Very few Arab-owned AND Jewish-owned stores opened on sept. 11 in NYC and NJ. They knew something was up.
You sir, are a complete fucking moron.







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US government blew up the WTC (and the pentagon).

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...btw i saw a video releashed from a local gas station and it sure as hell didnt look like no 747
Wow -- You mean the 757-200 that hit the pentagon didn't look like a 747?

There is about an 80" difference in length, an a 90" difference in wingspan, a 25" difference in tail height, 4000 feet^3 difference in cargo space, etc.

Amazing you didn't see anything that looked like a 747 on the local gas station video...
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I know it did because I saw the film before it was confiscated. The Jet was low and level, not any higher than a semi truck. It was really weird to see how the plane just disappeared, almost like it had flown through the walls like a ghost. You could see the nose hit, then everything followed untill the last thing you see is the tail simply vanishing into the building. Its happened so quickly that the plane was completly gone before the explosion was seen.
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There have been so many omissions and we have been told so many lies about 911, Afghanistan and Iraq, it is hardly suprising that the "conspiracy theorists" are having a field day. They don't bother me, but what does is that so few people have insisted on an explanation for why it was apparently deemed necessary to cover up so much about what was such a very public tragedy.

Then there is the timeline of events. In April 2001 talks broke down with the Taliban about an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. In July and August 2001, US troop buildups take place within striking distance of Afghanistan. Then we get the events of September 11th which are immediately blamed on a terrorist group based in - spot the coincidence - Afghanistan.

Heaven knows that different US governments have sanctioned some extreme things over the years and I wouldn't trust the average politician to tell me the time of day. Still I can't believe that anyone in our government was directly involved in 911. But I do think the White House took advantage of the situation to pursue existing goals.

I don't believe that Osama Bin Laden was behind 911. Instead of being the head of a global terrorist organisation, Bin Laden will eventually turn out to be no more than someone who ran a terrorist training camp just like others which have previously existed in countries like Libya and Lebanon. At most, perhaps some of his "clients" were involved in 911. He was just in the wrong place when the US wanted an excuse to get into Afghanistan.

That said, I have no idea who was behind 911. No-one has proposed any very credible alternatives to arab terrorists of some stamp or other, although it is difficult to avoid the suspicion that were other possibilities not all so unpalatable, more people might have commented on how untypical of arab terrorism - in every respect from style, planning and execution, through to not claiming responsibility - 911 was.
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There have been so many omissions and we have been told so many lies about 911, Afghanistan and Iraq, it is hardly suprising that the "conspiracy theorists" are having a field day. They don't bother me, but what does is that so few people have insisted on an explanation for why it was apparently deemed necessary to cover up so much about what was such a very public tragedy.

Then there is the timeline of events. In April 2001 talks broke down with the Taliban about an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. In July and August 2001, US troop buildups take place within striking distance of Afghanistan. Then we get the events of September 11th which are immediately blamed on a terrorist group based in - spot the coincidence - Afghanistan.

Heaven knows that different US governments have sanctioned some extreme things over the years and I wouldn't trust the average politician to tell me the time of day. Still I can't believe that anyone in our government was directly involved in 911. But I do think the White House took advantage of the situation to pursue existing goals.

I don't believe that Osama Bin Laden was behind 911. Instead of being the head of a global terrorist organisation, Bin Laden will eventually turn out to be no more than someone who ran a terrorist training camp just like others which have previously existed in countries like Libya and Lebanon. At most, perhaps some of his "clients" were involved in 911. He was just in the wrong place when the US wanted an excuse to get into Afghanistan.

That said, I have no idea who was behind 911. No-one has proposed any very credible alternatives to arab terrorists of some stamp or other, although it is difficult to avoid the suspicion that were other possibilities not all so unpalatable, more people might have commented on how untypical of arab terrorism - in every respect from style, planning and execution, through to not claiming responsibility - 911 was.
So do you think Bin Laden was lying when he was discussing the 9/11 incident on video tape...or do you think the video was phony?
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Now we got that cleared up and there is concrete evidence on GFY of anything.... can we sort out Roswell next?
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Now we got that cleared up and there is concrete evidence on GFY of anything.... can we sort out Roswell next?
Hmm...behind the times aren't you. Roswell was sorted out durning President Nixon's time in office. He personally allowed Jackie Gleason to view the space craft and alien bodies when they were stored at Wright Patterson. They since have been transferred to Area 51.
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I'm pretty sure we are being lied to about 9/11.

The suspicious collapse of the twin towers and WTC 7, the elimination of the evidence and refusal to conduct a serious investigation.

The "plane crash" into the Pentagon where no plane was to be found.

Shorting of airline stock days before 9/11, linked to former CIA top dogs, investigation pulled.

Head of Pakistani secret service wires money to Muhamad atta, has meeting with top US officials before and after 9/11.

All Arab delegates and members of the Royal Arab families were rounded up and flown back to Saudi Arabia. The plane was in the air so fast there's no way in hell they waited until the actual attacks to start, meaning they were clued in ahead of time. The US military that is, since they coordinated the exodus.

Very few Arab-owned AND Jewish-owned stores opened on sept. 11 in NYC and NJ. They knew something was up.
Talk about believing anything you hear or read! Jeez, you really are a fucking sheep. If you honestly believe that jewish & arab business closed on 9/11 waiting for an attack, you really are a freaking moron. I am jewish, I run a couple of businesses, and we were all open, sorry, I guess the Mossad forgot my phone number.

Here is a link :http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Aug20.html to a story at the wasington post that talks about how this disgusting rumour began. The writer believes that 9/11 was initally scheduled to take place on 9/18, which was Rosh Hashana, and had it happened on that day, yes, most jews would not have been at work, and anti-semitic assholes like you would have bought OBL's psychological warfare tatics, hook line & sinker.

You rants are throughly disgusting to those of us that actully lost friends & family on that terrible day.
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