People still believe no plane crashed into the Pentagon? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

pradaboy · 06-17-2005, 12:45 PM

50x Franck's right

Mr Dickovitch · 06-17-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

They damn sure did nothing to stop it.

Really? Grounding all flights in the USA is nothing? It had never been done before in the history of America.

Rinaldo · 06-17-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

That's what one of Bush's former economic advisors is saying... pretty bold accusations

lets see how long he stays alive

uno · 06-17-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrawn$

can you get a list of people who died in the pentagone crach

i mean people in the plane

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/tra...7.victims.html

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AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77
American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard.

CREW

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.

David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."

Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.

Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.

Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.

Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.

PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.

Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.

M.J. Booth

Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.

William Caswell

Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Eddie Dillard

Charles Droz

Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.

Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.

Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."

Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.

Dee Flagg

Richard Gabriel

Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.

Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.

Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.

Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.

Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.

Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.

Yvonne Kennedy

Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.

Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.

Norma Langsteuerle

Dong Lee

Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.

Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.

Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.

Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.

Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.

Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.

Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.

John Sammartino

Diane Simmons

George Simmons

Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.

Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.

Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.

Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.

John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.

Vicki Yancey

Shuyin Yang

Yuguag Zheng

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

uno · 06-17-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

I see no engines: http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero...erreurs_en.htm

I've posted pics, now your turn. By the way, you started the thread stating that there are pics, that a plane did hit. Thus it is YOU that has to prove it, not me as I am questioning your initial statements.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

DWB · 06-17-2005, 01:02 PM

I don't think it was a plane that hit that wall. I also think that they knew it was coming and could of shot every one of those planes down if they wanted to.

Just because you and I think that nobody in their right mind would do such a thing does not mean it couldn't happen on our own soil. I don't trust our government to tell me the truth about anything.

Dirty F · 06-17-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/tra...7.victims.html

Dirty F · 06-17-2005, 01:05 PM

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Nichepay Stuart

Dirty F · 06-17-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I don't think it was a plane that hit that wall. I also think that they knew it was coming and could of shot every one of those planes down if they wanted to.

Just because you and I think that nobody in their right mind would do such a thing does not mean it couldn't happen on our own soil. I don't trust our government to tell me the truth about anything.

You also think the earth is flat right?

Get a clue man, its proven a plane flew into the pentagon, evidence is all over the place. There is no room for discussion.

uno · 06-17-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Why are you directing Baghdad Bob at me?

PMdave · 06-17-2005, 01:10 PM

I'm not sure eitherway but if you have some spare time http://reopen911.org/pictures_and_videos.htm#1 is pretty interesting.

Dirty F · 06-17-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Why are you directing Baghdad Bob at me?

Not at you...

monkeysnap · 06-17-2005, 01:11 PM

Stupid fucks. I searched Google images for "pentagon 911" and the very first friggin' image that comes up clearly shows the truth.

StuartD · 06-17-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

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I'm sorry, can you please point to this thread or anywhere that I may have stated that I believed that a plane did or did not impact the pentagon?

I asked you to post a picture or two. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's funny how others could post links but you couldn't back up a single thing you said.

This isn't a question of what I believe. I asked for a picture or two, you said to go find your own... I did. Then I asked for you to post something and guess what, you couldn't.

You ASSUMED that I didn't believe simply because I wanted evidence of what you stated. And yet you couldn't even do that much.

You call others a sheep and yet you make assumptions based on what you perceived despite there being nothing stating what it is your assumptions came to the conclusion of.

If you read more into "Can you please post one or two of them?" than what is there, than how can you claim to know anything about what is and what isn't a conspiracy??

split_joel · 06-17-2005, 01:16 PM

I agree that the US goverment blew up WTC and the pentagon, but i also believe a plane hit the pentagon but not a commerical flight

according to some experts it would have to be no bigger then a f-15 which btw i saw a video releashed from a local gas station and it sure as hell didnt look like no 747

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

US government blew up the WTC (and the pentagon).

DWB · 06-17-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

You also think the earth is flat right?

Get a clue man, its proven a plane flew into the pentagon, evidence is all over the place. There is no room for discussion.

I have a clue and a mind that does not believe everything that is force fed to me by our government and the media. Photos of what they want you to see as evidence does not mean it's true. You and I will never know what's true.

I'm not saying that I know what happened, I just don't think it's what they say it was for the simple fact that ANY aircraft seen flying in that direction would of been shot down if thought as a threat. It's the Pentagon for Christ sake. We can scramble fighter jets so fast in high security areas such as that it would make your head spin, but we didn't. We did nothing.

I can see ONE plane slipping by, catching them with their pants down and hitting ONE tower at WTC. Nothing more.

Our response time is better than that. Men train day and night for scenarios such as that and your going to tell me on that day they couldn't act fast enough? I just don't buy it.

split_joel · 06-17-2005, 01:18 PM

also anyone with a brain knows that in order for that 757 to crash into the pentagon at where it hit, it would need plenty of room to fly low to the ground, now if u have ever seen the pentagon there is no room for this to happen a 747 cant just come down and lift berly off the air just enough to go straight into the pentagon

enzo · 06-17-2005, 01:21 PM

here's a pic

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/overview.jpg

StuartD · 06-17-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

You also think the earth is flat right?

Get a clue man, its proven a plane flew into the pentagon, evidence is all over the place. There is no room for discussion.

There's plenty of evidence to the contrary also... since I like to see pictures of both and evidence of both though, that makes me a conspiracy theorist.

Let's see.... I ask for pics of the proof that a plane was there... you provide none, so I provide some that question where it is.

You STILL provide none.... and just say that mine aren't of any value.

Way to convince both of us there sherlock.

I know in your little world, you only believe what you want and not believe what you want based on a roll of the dice in your head.

I like to see pics of both. Ever think that may be the reason why I wanted to see the pics that you spoke of?? No, you didn't think. End of story.

Dirty F · 06-17-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

It's funny how others could post links but you couldn't back up a single thing you said.

Its not a matter of me not being able to, i just couldnt be bothered. Neither can i be bothered finding evidence when an idiot refuses to believe the world isnt flat.

DWB · 06-17-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Its not a matter of me not being able to, i just couldnt be bothered. Neither can i be bothered finding evidence when an idiot refuses to believe the world isnt flat.

Do you also believe in the bible?

StuartD · 06-17-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Its not a matter of me not being able to, i just couldnt be bothered. Neither can i be bothered finding evidence when an idiot refuses to believe the world isnt flat.

Yes, it is a matter of you not being able to, because if you couldn't be bothered, than you never would have made the thread in the first place. It obviously bothers you.

Just like how every little issue from molecules to galactic events require a bitching thread from you on gfy about it on a daily basis.

The fact of the matter is, you had NO CLUE what I believed... but because I asked you to do more than simply spout off at the mouth and impose your line of thinking on those who might actually question the world they perceive around them... you broke under pressure and lashed out instead with insults and pictures you think might be amusing.

If you can't back up what you say, don't say it. Isn't that what you always tell people on GFY? What did you tell MetaformX? Oh right, if he can't back up his boasts, then he's a liar. Right?

Must frighten you when you make accusations that are totally wrong. Here you are still trying to belittle me with "world is flat" comments, totally disregarding and trying so very desparately to avoid the fact that you truly believed that I was all for the conspiracy theory when infact... you haven't got a clue what it is I believe.

Infact, I bet you're so upset about it that I'll get my very own thread soon about how "retarded" I am and yatta yatta.. as you desparately try to save face from being completely wrong in one of your gfy famous attacks.

Should be a good one

NTSS · 06-17-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni

They damn sure did nothing to stop it.

Of course nothing was done to stop it. We needed a reason to go into Iraq.

Dirty F · 06-17-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Infact, I bet you're so upset about it that I'll get my very own thread soon about how "retarded" I am and yatta yatta.. as you desparately try to save face from being completely wrong in one of your gfy famous attacks.

Should be a good one

Dont count on it, im going out in 30 mins and as soon as i click away from this thread i already forgotten about you.

StuartD · 06-17-2005, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Dont count on it, im going out in 30 mins and as soon as i click away from this thread i already forgotten about you.

Aww... still avoiding the whole thing huh? Guess it's best to leave while not down too far. I'd want to forget being so wrong too.

Dirty F · 06-17-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Aww... still avoiding the whole thing huh? Guess it's best to leave while not down too far. I'd want to forget being so wrong too.

Heres a bump so anyone can see how totally wrong i am.

Im so owned.

directfiesta · 06-17-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Hahah you see no engines in those pics, jeesh hows that possible. Well i guess i was wrong, Stuart just proved me wrong, damn i feel so stupid now.

Listen, mel gibson, im not gonna find it for you. Go use google images or something, be creative instead of a retard. Its been even posted on gfy several times.

Its useless anyway, people like you will deny everything. You will find the pic and find something else to cry about. Its either a photoshop or whatever.

you really are stupid.

propromotions · 06-17-2005, 02:17 PM

this post cracks me up. everybody thinks they know everything...

Minte · 06-17-2005, 02:23 PM

Nixon was behind it..he was still pissed about Watergate

FunForOne · 06-17-2005, 02:33 PM

It only takes common sense and logical thinking to realize that their are easier and more efficient ways to make money than to spend your whole life being a politician and then you and your son spending 20 years elected to the whitehouse where you have to blow up the two largest buildings in the country, shoot down an airliner and blowup the pentagon on live television using 1000s of people to help you while taking the chance that one of those people are not democrats or even tell their wives what they do for a living.

It could be true, or these weakminded people could be part of a political plot to smear the name of a public official without getting their reputations tarnished for being stupid.

AdultMovies.bz · 06-17-2005, 02:50 PM

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but it does seem a little strange that the most heavily defended building on the face of this earth can't use its multi-million dollar AA guns mounted on several locations on the roof and operated by trained personnel to shoot at one of the largest planes ever made heading straight for them... Just my 2c

Dollarmansteve · 06-17-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

You can't PROVE that the US had nothing to do with 9/11. Much the same way that you can't PROVE anyone or anything in the middle east was at all related.

Ahhh, and it is this is the 'foundation' upon which all conspiracies rest. It is faulty logic. The conspiracy theorist uses a frankenstein version of the scientific method - which is to assume the null hypothesis and prove that its impossible thus proving the hypothesis - and says that 'not every null hypothesis can be proven false, therefore it has a chance of being true' and then bases a theory on one of these null hypotheses, ignoring the fact that the actual hypothesis may be competely true. Never, unless dealing with a simple, direct proof, is the hypothesis proved directly. In this case as evidenced by the above quote.

So, the conspiracy is based on this faulty logic:

1. the given hypothesis cant be proved true directly
2. not every null hypothesis can be proved impossible

Therefore: one of the null hypotheses is true.

Is it possible that there was a conspiracy? yes. Is it probable? no. Conspiracy theories are built upon a string of highly improbable - though possible - events. No one says that some theories are 'impossible', but why, in conspiracy theory does probability go out the window.

Here's an example of your logic in action: The accepted wisdom is that no aliens have ever landed on earth, other wise we'd find wreckage of their ships, fossils etc.

You can't PROVE it, so I say aliens landed on earth 876,432 years ago. Try an prove me wrong!!

Downtime · 06-17-2005, 03:01 PM

people will never change

FunForOne · 06-17-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

Ahhh, and it is this is the 'foundation' upon which all conspiracies rest. It is faulty logic. The conspiracy theorist uses a frankenstein version of the scientific method - which is to assume the null hypothesis and prove that its impossible thus proving the hypothesis - and says that 'not every null hypothesis can be proven false, therefore it has a chance of being true' and then bases a theory on one of these null hypotheses, ignoring the fact that the actual hypothesis may be competely true. Never, unless dealing with a simple, direct proof, is the hypothesis proved directly. In this case as evidenced by the above quote.

So, the conspiracy is based on this faulty logic:

1. the given hypothesis cant be proved true directly
2. not every null hypothesis can be proved impossible

Therefore: one of the null hypotheses is true.

Is it possible that there was a conspiracy? yes. Is it probable? no. Conspiracy theories are built upon a string of highly improbable - though possible - events. No one says that some theories are 'impossible', but why, in conspiracy theory does probability go out the window.

Here's an example of your logic in action: The accepted wisdom is that no aliens have ever landed on earth, other wise we'd find wreckage of their ships, fossils etc.

You can't PROVE it, so I say aliens landed on earth 876,432 years ago. Try an prove me wrong!!

Very well said.

I used to explain it very similiar.

Mathmatical Logic

If A = B, & B = C, then A = C.

Conspiracy theories:

If A = B, then A = C.

Rich · 06-17-2005, 03:09 PM

The fact that people believe the government's official story about 9/11 is what proves we're as stupid as we were 500 years ago. While I don't personally believe the missile theory, I don't blame some people for being skeptical, at least they're thinking and not mindlessly bowing down to the powers that be.

Do you believe the official story? That they found one of the hijacker's passports on top of the rubble? They had Bin Laden's face on CNN 15 minutes after it happened but it was a surprise attack that the government didn't know was coming? Come on now.

The financial elites were responsible for 9/11, just like they were responsible for the Iraq war, for WWI, WWII, the revolutionary war, I think you get my point. We're all fucking suckers and they're all fucking laughing, while cashing in and taking our money and rights away. No billionaires died on Sept. 11th, what a fucking shock. No Rockafellers in the building on that day. War is a way of taking money from the people and putting it into the hands of the elites, nothing more. Once you understand that everything starts to make sense.

Rich · 06-17-2005, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

That's what one of Bush's former economic advisors is saying... pretty bold accusations

Who? He hasn't died in a "plane crash" yet? I find that hard to believe.

FunForOne · 06-17-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

No billionaires died on Sept. 11th, what a fucking shock. No Rockafellers in the building on that day.

What a very subtle way of saying this obviously was a conspiracy but dont label me as someone who believes conspiracy theories.

directfiesta · 06-17-2005, 03:15 PM

People still believe no plane crashed into the Pentagon?

or

People still believe that Irak had WMD ?

or

People still believe that Irak invasion made America safer?

and you could go on...

One thing for sure, wheter he is or not involved, it sure propulsed GW Bush to the image of a " strong" president .... Fucking amazing

FunForOne · 06-17-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

Who? He hasn't died in a "plane crash" yet? I find that hard to believe.

I think you are reffering to the wrong president who has a bunch of friends that die in "plane crashes". Very bad anti bush analogy, you should have used "heart attacks" or "sucides". Wait, those are taken also.

Rich · 06-17-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

Ahhh, and it is this is the 'foundation' upon which all conspiracies rest. It is faulty logic. The conspiracy theorist uses a frankenstein version of the scientific method - which is to assume the null hypothesis and prove that its impossible thus proving the hypothesis - and says that 'not every null hypothesis can be proven false, therefore it has a chance of being true' and then bases a theory on one of these null hypotheses, ignoring the fact that the actual hypothesis may be competely true. Never, unless dealing with a simple, direct proof, is the hypothesis proved directly. In this case as evidenced by the above quote.

So, the conspiracy is based on this faulty logic:

1. the given hypothesis cant be proved true directly
2. not every null hypothesis can be proved impossible

Therefore: one of the null hypotheses is true.

Is it possible that there was a conspiracy? yes. Is it probable? no. Conspiracy theories are built upon a string of highly improbable - though possible - events. No one says that some theories are 'impossible', but why, in conspiracy theory does probability go out the window.

Here's an example of your logic in action: The accepted wisdom is that no aliens have ever landed on earth, other wise we'd find wreckage of their ships, fossils etc.

You can't PROVE it, so I say aliens landed on earth 876,432 years ago. Try an prove me wrong!!

So, CNN tells us minutes after it happened that it was Bin Laden, and that's good enough for you?

Yeah, these "conspiracy theorists" are real idiots. They believe anything they hear. They'd probably believe that one of the "terrorists" passports was found on top of the rubble after the plane was incinerated on live TV. Oh wait, that's you who believes that...

At what point did people stop looking for answers and start accepting every bit of nonsense the government spits out at us? Stalin would fucking LOVE CNN and all the mindless souls who bow down to it.

"It can't happen here..."

FunForOne · 06-17-2005, 03:18 PM

I love the liberal anti bush logic that states:

Bush is a greedy republican making money for his friends.

FunForOne · 06-17-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich

So, CNN tells us minutes after it happened that it was Bin Laden, and that's good enough for you?

Yeah, these "conspiracy theorists" are real idiots. They believe anything they hear. They'd probably believe that one of the "terrorists" passports was found on top of the rubble after the plane was incinerated on live TV. Oh wait, that's you who believes that...

At what point did people stop looking for answers and start accepting every bit of nonsense the government spits out at us? Stalin would fucking LOVE CNN and all the mindless souls who bow down to it.

"It can't happen here..."

Rich, I know exactly what you are arguing and why but something is always hurting yoru arguments.

CNN is not part of the republican party. You keep blaming the media for helping president Bush, surely you couldn't believe that.

uno · 06-17-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Rich, I know exactly what you are arguing and why but something is always hurting yoru arguments.

CNN is not part of the republican party. You keep blaming the media for helping president Bush, surely you couldn't believe that.

Are you joking? The media doesn't help president Bush?

Rich · 06-17-2005, 03:26 PM

"What a very subtle way of saying this obviously was a conspiracy but don't label me as someone who believes conspiracy theories."

Who says I don't believe in "conspiracies"? What's a conspiracy to you? Something that only lunatics believe? Anything they don't talk about on CNN? Do you not think that there have ever been conspiracies in this world? A conspiracy is when a group of people conspire to hide the truth from the public, it happens every day of our lives. You have to stop accepting the official version of everything. People lie. People are corrupt. People are criminals. People are murders. This is the world we live in. I realize that they've made the term conspiracy into a slide reaction, so every time you hear it you automatically think of tinfoil hats and raving lunatics, and it's taken decades of conditioning to make you that way. You're smarter than that, aren't you? Do you believe everything TV and your government tells you? How long exactly did it take you to accept that fact that your parents weren't telling the truth about the Easter bunny?

I'll flat out tell you right now that Sept. 11th was of course a conspiracy. Even your "official version" is a conspiracy, the "Al Queda", your fictional terrorist group, were the ones doing the conspiring in your story. How was it not?

AdultMovies.bz · 06-17-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FunForOne

Rich, You keep blaming the media for helping president Bush, surely you couldn't believe that.

LOL, you name one negative thing ever said about Bush by CNN, they never even mention that his popularity rating is dropping

Rich · 06-17-2005, 03:31 PM

"I think you are reffering to the wrong president who has a bunch of friends that die in "plane crashes". Very bad anti bush analogy, you should have used "heart attacks" or "sucides". Wait, those are taken also."

Anti-Bush? Where do you get "anti-Bush" from my statements? Bush is just a fucking puppet for the global elites. So was Clinton. I know Clinton killed people, have you ever heard me say differently? No US president has no blood on his hands. Get it through your mind, I'm not a democrat, I realize there's only 1 party in America, the party that represents the bankers and other billionaires. Of course they're all corrupt and of course they all kill people who get in their way. Do you think I believe that Vince Foster was killed by Bush? Give me a break.

FunForOne · 06-17-2005, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

"Al Queda", your fictional terrorist group,

damn, I forgot how you good you are at sucking the logic out of a conversation.

Rich · 06-17-2005, 03:37 PM

"Rich, I know exactly what you are arguing and why but something is always hurting yoru arguments.

CNN is not part of the republican party. You keep blaming the media for helping president Bush, surely you couldn't believe that."

No! You don't get it! It has nothing to do with republican versus democrat, that's just the fucking game they play to keep us fighting each other. CNN is propaganda for the global elites; the bankers, war profiteers, etc. The world's problems have nothing to do with liberals fighting conservatives, the problem is the couple thousand families that control the world fighting the rest of us. I realize you're told in school that if you work hard you'll become one of them, and if you don't, it's because you're a failure, but guess what, that's bullshit. They choose what you're taught in school, that's why you'll argue all day long against your personal interests to defend them. You think one day you'll be one of them. Guess what: you won't be. I won't be. No one we know will be. A couple tens of millions of dollars doesn't make us shit, we're still slaves to them. They control us, they tell us what to think, and they only take actions that increase their control over us. Liberal and conservatives is a fucking smoke screen, the have us fighting over issues that make relatively no difference while they steal the wealth of our nations. Of course the media is protecting President Bush from the people, as they do with everyone in power. It doesn't fucking matter which "party" is in power.

Rich · 06-17-2005, 03:39 PM

"damn, I forgot how you good you are at sucking the logic out of a conversation."

Do you think there is really a terrorist group that calls themselves Al Qaeda?

xxxdesign-net · 06-17-2005, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

"What a very subtle way of saying this obviously was a conspiracy but don't label me as someone who believes conspiracy theories."

Who says I don't believe in "conspiracies"? What's a conspiracy to you? Something that only lunatics believe? Anything they don't talk about on CNN? Do you not think that there have ever been conspiracies in this world? A conspiracy is when a group of people conspire to hide the truth from the public, it happens every day of our lives. You have to stop accepting the official version of everything. People lie. People are corrupt. People are criminals. People are murders. This is the world we live in. I realize that they've made the term conspiracy into a slide reaction, so every time you hear it you automatically think of tinfoil hats and raving lunatics, and it's taken decades of conditioning to make you that way. You're smarter than that, aren't you? Do you believe everything TV and your government tells you? How long exactly did it take you to accept that fact that your parents weren't telling the truth about the Easter bunny?

I'll flat out tell you right now that Sept. 11th was of course a conspiracy. Even your "official version" is a conspiracy, the "Al Queda", your fictional terrorist group, were the ones doing the conspiring in your story. How was it not?

Nice to see that there's informed people with higher than average intellect on GFY..

06-17-2005, 12:45 PM	#51
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06-17-2005, 01:11 PM	#63
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06-17-2005, 01:18 PM	#67
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06-17-2005, 02:50 PM	#81
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06-17-2005, 01:02 PM	#56
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I don't think it was a plane that hit that wall. I also think that they knew it was coming and could of shot every one of those planes down if they wanted to. Just because you and I think that nobody in their right mind would do such a thing does not mean it couldn't happen on our own soil. I don't trust our government to tell me the truth about anything.

06-17-2005, 01:05 PM	#58
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06-17-2005, 01:10 PM	#61
PMdave Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,517	I'm not sure eitherway but if you have some spare time http://reopen911.org/pictures_and_videos.htm#1 is pretty interesting.

06-17-2005, 01:21 PM	#68
enzo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 203	here's a pic http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/overview.jpg

06-17-2005, 02:17 PM	#78
propromotions Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 260	this post cracks me up. everybody thinks they know everything...

06-17-2005, 02:33 PM	#80
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06-17-2005, 03:09 PM	#85
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	The fact that people believe the government's official story about 9/11 is what proves we're as stupid as we were 500 years ago. While I don't personally believe the missile theory, I don't blame some people for being skeptical, at least they're thinking and not mindlessly bowing down to the powers that be. Do you believe the official story? That they found one of the hijacker's passports on top of the rubble? They had Bin Laden's face on CNN 15 minutes after it happened but it was a surprise attack that the government didn't know was coming? Come on now. The financial elites were responsible for 9/11, just like they were responsible for the Iraq war, for WWI, WWII, the revolutionary war, I think you get my point. We're all fucking suckers and they're all fucking laughing, while cashing in and taking our money and rights away. No billionaires died on Sept. 11th, what a fucking shock. No Rockafellers in the building on that day. War is a way of taking money from the people and putting it into the hands of the elites, nothing more. Once you understand that everything starts to make sense. Last edited by Rich; 06-17-2005 at 03:10 PM..

06-17-2005, 03:15 PM	#88
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06-17-2005, 03:18 PM	#91
FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	I love the liberal anti bush logic that states: Bush is a greedy republican making money for his friends.

06-17-2005, 03:26 PM	#94
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	"What a very subtle way of saying this obviously was a conspiracy but don't label me as someone who believes conspiracy theories." Who says I don't believe in "conspiracies"? What's a conspiracy to you? Something that only lunatics believe? Anything they don't talk about on CNN? Do you not think that there have ever been conspiracies in this world? A conspiracy is when a group of people conspire to hide the truth from the public, it happens every day of our lives. You have to stop accepting the official version of everything. People lie. People are corrupt. People are criminals. People are murders. This is the world we live in. I realize that they've made the term conspiracy into a slide reaction, so every time you hear it you automatically think of tinfoil hats and raving lunatics, and it's taken decades of conditioning to make you that way. You're smarter than that, aren't you? Do you believe everything TV and your government tells you? How long exactly did it take you to accept that fact that your parents weren't telling the truth about the Easter bunny? I'll flat out tell you right now that Sept. 11th was of course a conspiracy. Even your "official version" is a conspiracy, the "Al Queda", your fictional terrorist group, were the ones doing the conspiring in your story. How was it not?

06-17-2005, 03:31 PM	#96
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	"I think you are reffering to the wrong president who has a bunch of friends that die in "plane crashes". Very bad anti bush analogy, you should have used "heart attacks" or "sucides". Wait, those are taken also." Anti-Bush? Where do you get "anti-Bush" from my statements? Bush is just a fucking puppet for the global elites. So was Clinton. I know Clinton killed people, have you ever heard me say differently? No US president has no blood on his hands. Get it through your mind, I'm not a democrat, I realize there's only 1 party in America, the party that represents the bankers and other billionaires. Of course they're all corrupt and of course they all kill people who get in their way. Do you think I believe that Vince Foster was killed by Bush? Give me a break.

06-17-2005, 03:37 PM	#98
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	"Rich, I know exactly what you are arguing and why but something is always hurting yoru arguments. CNN is not part of the republican party. You keep blaming the media for helping president Bush, surely you couldn't believe that." No! You don't get it! It has nothing to do with republican versus democrat, that's just the fucking game they play to keep us fighting each other. CNN is propaganda for the global elites; the bankers, war profiteers, etc. The world's problems have nothing to do with liberals fighting conservatives, the problem is the couple thousand families that control the world fighting the rest of us. I realize you're told in school that if you work hard you'll become one of them, and if you don't, it's because you're a failure, but guess what, that's bullshit. They choose what you're taught in school, that's why you'll argue all day long against your personal interests to defend them. You think one day you'll be one of them. Guess what: you won't be. I won't be. No one we know will be. A couple tens of millions of dollars doesn't make us shit, we're still slaves to them. They control us, they tell us what to think, and they only take actions that increase their control over us. Liberal and conservatives is a fucking smoke screen, the have us fighting over issues that make relatively no difference while they steal the wealth of our nations. Of course the media is protecting President Bush from the people, as they do with everyone in power. It doesn't fucking matter which "party" is in power.

06-17-2005, 03:39 PM	#99
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	"damn, I forgot how you good you are at sucking the logic out of a conversation." Do you think there is really a terrorist group that calls themselves Al Qaeda?